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With Apologies to the OP

I never denied anything. What I wrote was pretty self explanatory. I have taught both my goldens to follow me to the correct door that leads them to the correct potty spot.. If you want to carry go ahead.
So if you never denied anything then how should we interpret your saying "I never insinuated or assumed anything" That was a denial of you actions.

If you want to be a troll and harass me on these threads at least be adult enough to admit what you are doing. I have asked you to politely not respond to what I post but you invoked your First Amendment rights. Just so it is clear to everyone out there that you apparently lead a pathetic life where your joy comes from trying to harass people you arbitrarily select. You and your behaviors are not unique and can be seen on almost any public forum. Some say just ignore a troll like you but they tend to be the people not be harassed. So let me just clearly say if what you are looking for an argument and war, I will gladly give you what you want. Now BACK OFF! ARE WE CLEAR.
 
So if you never denied anything then how should we interpret your saying "I never insinuated or assumed anything" That was a denial of you actions.

If you want to be a troll and harass me on these threads at least be adult enough to admit what you are doing. I have asked you to politely not respond to what I post but you invoked your First Amendment rights. Just so it is clear to everyone out there that you apparently lead a pathetic life where your joy comes from trying to harass people you arbitrarily select. You and your behaviors are not unique and can be seen on almost any public forum. Some say just ignore a troll like you but they tend to be the people not be harassed. So let me just clearly say if what you are looking for an argument and war, I will gladly give you what you want. Now BACK OFF! ARE WE CLEAR.
I think this thread should be closed since there are violations galore of the forum rules at this point....
 
OP: i have a 11 week old puppy and we have a crate and a x pen "like" for our puppy. He is crated at night time in my room next to my bed only. During the daytime since I am a SAHM and if i can't watch him or I have to run to the store or he needs a nap he goes in his pen. I feel bad putting him in his crate when I am not with him so the xpen has worked out great. the xpen is in our kitchen and it is the center of action in our house and open to our family room. HTH :)
 
To the OP carry the pup (if you wish) until he/she is big enoughor able to follow you at a good pace. Pups grow quickly and learn quickly,but it is going to take awhile for your pup to 'get it right' every time, be patient and consistent.
If you going to put the crate in the x-pen she should have access to it at all times, after all that is where you want her to sleep, right? If she is in the xpen she should have water available, but she should be fed meals (3 times a day) in her crate (if you choose). Feeding on a schedule helps to predict when she will need to potty.
Training should be done in very short intervals,( puppy brains can't concentrate very long), several times a day, with play time/naptime in between.
 
I wouldn't carry him. I would lead him out to the door so he learns where to go when he needs to go out. Once outside lead him to the spot that you want him to eliminate each and every time. Believe it or not they catch on really fast.
I'd carry if you think there's a chance he really has to go ... like he just got up from a nap, recently had water, etc - especially since you have a long way to go (including a wait for an elevator) to get outside. As he gets older and your potty adventures feel less "urgent," he can walk on a leash.
 
We carried Casper until he hit 20 pounds (about 12 weeks), my limit. To get to the yard, he crosses the bedroom, goes down two flights of stairs, through the hall and kitchen, and finally across the deck to the grass. This is after 9 hours sleep. He has had one accident on the trip since we made him walk.

Now, at barely five months, he gets up, visits with us, goes down one flight, stretches, goes a-roo, rests at the landing (makes me crazy) goes outside, lays in the grass, eats some moss, and finally, finally pees. When I tell him time's up and I'm going in, he then poops.

This might sound crazy, but would it be quicker to make him walk down all five flights, rather than waiting for the elevator? After he can do that many stairs, of course.
 
We have been using the crate with amazing results (not 1 accident yet) and we baby gate her in the kitchen when we are in there for specific times during the day. We brought our puppy Bella home at 9 weeks and we carried her outside to her spot for maybe the first week every time knowing that she couldn't hold it very long. After a week we would walk her there and since then she always runs to her spot. She is almost 13 weeks now and we only stopped carrying her last week during her night pit stops. We had a long walk from the bedroom to her potty spot so didn't want her to be confused. Also if you are taking the puppy out at the correct times, you will have less of a problem of them not being able to control their muscles. For every month, they need to go out every hour...2 months old = 2 hours, etc. Especially if you are in an appartment, you don't want to push the time limits since it is a far walk.
 
OP:I feel bad putting him in his crate when I am not with him so the xpen has worked out great.
I'm trying to figure out the same thing for my puppy - does yours ever have accidents while in the xpen? I'd totally prefer using an xpen during the day too, but am afraid the space it gives puppy will give it more opportunities to pee in it over a small confined crate.
 
I'm trying to figure out the same thing for my puppy - does yours ever have accidents while in the xpen? I'd totally prefer using an xpen during the day too, but am afraid the space it gives puppy will give it more opportunities to pee in it over a small confined crate.

Chaya,

A puppy will have an accident anywhere if you aren't keeping an eye on them...we use both the crate and the xpen...now when in the xpen I know she is in a safe environment and I am not as diligent....I can sit in my chair in the LR and see her and not have to be watching her every move...or make dinner without her under my feet etc...She is allowed out in the living room, dining room and kitchen area if we are watching her, if we can't she is in the xpen, with an eye out yet able to go and get a few things done. Hope that makes sense!!!
 
I think you will find your pup has more accidents in an x-pen, simply because there is more room for them to eliminate.

I agree with that, but I do use it...she has not had an accident in it. It's in my kitchen/dining room and the living room, kitchen/dining room is open concept. To be honest I have only used it a few times, when I have to use the bathroom, making dinner or when I need to ice my back for a few minutes. But I can see her the whole time, well except for the bathroom. The crate is for sleeping or when we are gone, not the xpen, that is only used when we are home....
 
I agree with that, but I do use it...she has not had an accident in it. It's in my kitchen/dining room and the living room, kitchen/dining room is open concept. To be honest I have only used it a few times, when I have to use the bathroom, making dinner or when I need to ice my back for a few minutes. But I can see her the whole time, well except for the bathroom. The crate is for sleeping or when we are gone, not the xpen, that is only used when we are home....
I've got the same set up. Our "accident" happened when I was vacuuming, my Mom called and I couldn't get him out in time. I put him in knowing he was "due" for potty, but he wouldn't go when I took him out just before (stubborn??;)). I was relieved it happened in the pen since it's easier to clean up there with the rubber matting we put down. :) We are finding that he doesn't enjoy being in the x-pen when we are around, despite all the toys in there, but it's our safety area for him when we need to do things around the house and really can't watch him.
 
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