[SBaker]

I would not leave a deposit (esp. a non refundable one of that amount!) without first meeting the breeder, at least one parent and seeing their facilities. I know every breeder is different, but those are my ground rules. I don't care if they're puppies of a Westminster winner, if I can't see & meet it's a no go for me.

 

[Prism Goldens]

This person is in Taiwan - which pretty much explains many of their posts....

How did you find this? I assumed it was an offshore person just based on how off the wall her posts have been. Bad advice on every occasion.
I hope no one takes her advice to heart as being from the GRF...

 

[Megora]

How did you find this? I assumed it was an offshore person just based on how off the wall her posts have been. Bad advice on every occasion.
I hope no one takes her advice to heart as being from the GRF...

One of the posts yesterday on a thread I was subscribed to.

Kinda figured - outside of US and western type countries, view on dogs, dog ownership, dog breeding etc.... is vastly different.

 

[Sweet Girl]

One of the posts yesterday on a thread I was subscribed to.

Kinda figured - outside of US and western type countries, view on dogs, dog ownership, dog breeding etc.... is vastly different.

Personally, I think the person is a troll, with sadly little else in her life to occupy her time. She is posting to get a rise out of people. Just ignore her - she'll go away.

 

[Hilabeans]

Personally, I think the person is a troll, with sadly little else in her life to occupy her time. She is posting to get a rise out of people. Just ignore her - she'll go away.

Yep, I noticed some weird posts last week when she first joined. I reported at least one of them for trolling. :gotme:

 

[rabernet]

Yep, I noticed some weird posts last week when she first joined. I reported at least one of them for trolling. :gotme:

The thing is, she joined in April 2017, over a year ago, but is just now posting very bizarre posts. Referring to her animals as beasts. It does feel very "troll-ish".

 

[ShashaCruz]

so many haters must be predominantly usa participants

 

[LJack]

Yes, you are correct, the forum is North American based with heavy American participation. Most people in other countries pick up on that quite quickly since it is a .com and not a .tw or a .uk, or a .au for example.

I am sure the view of animals and ownership in general are quite different where you live. Quite a bit of what you post is shocking to a culture in North America where dogs seem to be valued much more highly and treated often times as a family member. Your descriptions are very off putting for many since they are so different from the treatment of dogs where we live. It seems that quite a few feel you are aware that your posts are disturbing and full of suggestions that are detrimental to the standards of animal care here. Perhaps you are aware and trolling, perhaps not. Hopefully you can find areas of the forum you can participate in that won’t make you feel like you have to post “clap back”, “haters” remarks or thinly veiled insults to a whole country of people.

 

[CAROLINA MOM]

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I have been looking for a puppy and recently contacted a golden retriever breeder ( Goldenwind Golden Retriever in Wylie, Texas) which is close to where I live. I've had dogs in the past but this is the first time I am trying to get a puppy from hopefully what is a reputable breeder. The breeder has asked for a deposit of $1250 which is half the total price of the puppy. I was okay with the deposit but what I am concerned about if what happened next. I e-mailed the breeder and asked if I could get a couple of references, how the deposit is made (cash, check credit card) and if I could meet the breeder and her dogs (one or both of the parents of the current litter) BEFORE I made the deposit and this was her response where she didn't really answer my questions: "I'm sorry, but as you read on the Puppies page of our website, that is not 'our' process as we need to protect the puppies and cannot have people coming to visit to just "look" as they are not fully vested in the safety and wellbeing of the puppies. Our process is why so many families have chosen us as their breeders as our #1 priority is the safety of the puppies. If you don't have the confidence in us as breeders with all the information we have posted on both our website and Facebook page, along with our 20 years of experience, then we are not the right breeders for you."

Were my questions unreasonable? I didn't ask to meet the puppies. I just asked to meet the parents and her before I pay the deposit. I also didn't get a response as to how the deposit is made and I can't find any reviews of this breeder on the Facebook page or the website. In this age where there are so many puppy scams and fake websites, I thought my questions were valid questions. Are they not?

 

[ShashaCruz]

. com is not north american unique at all

 

[Daisy Gold]

I hope you didn't get a puppy from them. I am a breeder and ask 1/3 for deposit. They can come see my facility, meet parents and other dogs I have. They ask as many questions as they want. The deposit is refundable if I cannot give them the sex they wanted. They can also wait until the next litter if they choose.
DaisyGoldGoldens
Liz Barrows

 

[Prism Goldens]

I hope you didn't get a puppy from them. I am a breeder and ask 1/3 for deposit. They can come see my facility, meet parents and other dogs I have. They ask as many questions as they want. The deposit is refundable if I cannot give them the sex they wanted. They can also wait until the next litter if they choose.
DaisyGoldGoldens
Liz Barrows

Out of curiosity- what is a 'certified breeder' as it states you are on your website? who certifies you?

 

[Naturallypeace]

This is the breeder of my Rambo. She and her husband both were sticklers about germs. At the meet and greet you will get to meet the parents, and spend as much time as you like with the puppies.

Ellen and her husband are serious about making sure the puppies go to good homes. They weren't shy about refunding a couple their money the day before they were to pick it up because of them balking about a requirement in the the contract.

I wrote a check for the deposit but they required cash on go home day. They have been burned before and play it safe.
If you are looking for an outgoing type of breeder, Ellen is not that. She is friendly and patient but also no nonsense. She takes the breeding very seriously.

As far as the dogs, Rambo is the sweetest, healthiest, loving dog. We love him beyond words. Oh, and they do pick the dog for you. We laugh because my husband and I had him down as our last choice. We are so glad she picked!

If I were ever thinking about getting a second dog I wouldn't hesitate to go with them again.
I hope this answers some of your concerns.
Good luck.

Thanks for sharing your experience. How is Rambo doing these days?

 

[Jdogmom]

Yes, you are correct, the forum is North American based with heavy American participation. Most people in other countries pick up on that quite quickly since it is a .com and not a .tw or a .uk, or a .au for example.

I am sure the view of animals and ownership in general are quite different where you live. Quite a bit of what you post is shocking to a culture in North America where dogs seem to be valued much more highly and treated often times as a family member. Your descriptions are very off putting for many since they are so different from the treatment of dogs where we live. It seems that quite a few feel you are aware that your posts are disturbing and full of suggestions that are detrimental to the standards of animal care here. Perhaps you are aware and trolling, perhaps not. Hopefully you can find areas of the forum you can participate in that won’t make you feel like you have to post “clap back”, “haters” remarks or thinly veiled insults to a whole country of people.

I LOVE your posts, LJack! Your answers are clear, honest, and direct. You are so articulate, and I literally wanted to clap and cheer at this particular response to Shashacruz.
Please keep being you- it's wonderful!