[elway]

Hm, maybe I should get Cody a cork?

Lol. Despite the fact that my coffee table might be safer without a tail swooshing across it, I still wouldn't take a tailless dog. I'd have the same health concerns as others have mentioned. I also think it would affect our athletic pursuits (multiple hikes per week, frequent swimming, possible agility down the road). I would prefer not to have a dog with balance challenges etc.

Any golden, tail or no tail, obviously deserves tons of love. But for me personally, I don't think a tailless golden would be a good fit.

 

[Ljilly28]

I was talking to my breeder and apparently out of the litter of 10 puppies, 2 were born without tails. Apparently, this is a rare occurrence, and other than their tail they are perfectly fine and have been checked by a vet. They have a 5+ generation pedigree, all clearances, and from a very reputable breeder.

Now.. the one that I'm getting in a short while has a tail. So... I'm not asking for myself. But, how many of you would consider buying a purebred golden, minus a tail, for 1/3 the normal price?

If anyone was really interested, near the southeast US, you can PM me and I may give you some contact info.

I am so, so interested in this thread, just because this happened to a breeder in my region- the entire litter had no tails. This is only the second time I have heard of such a thing. If I just wanted a pet, I would consider the puppy for 1/3 the price if amazing health clearances , titles, upraising for sure. If I were the breeder I would be a bit panic stricken I admit, and would probably give the pups free to friends and family.

 

[Prism Goldens]

Jill, I could tell you about these puppies- I am pretty sure I was there when they were born! So precious! There was a whole gang of breeders there to catch them because mama had a bellyful and we didn't notice the two had missing tails til maybe an hour later when we were putting them on mama to nurse. One had just a nub, and the other had about half his tail. They were both boys, and the vet quickly went and checked everything- stimulated them to poop, and both are still happy and healthy boys last I heard.
I suspect - vet said- that they were very,very crowded in the uterus. It seems like there were 9-10 of them and mama is a smallish bitch. That was the reason for the section in the first place. The breeder is a very reputable person, and of course both parents (my Hudson was the sire) had every clearance that was do-able. Mama had had B vitamin supplementation during pregnancy, so it wasn't a folic acid issue though I know that that sometimes can cause tails to go missing.
edit:checked dates- yep I was there. There were 10.

 

[Prism Goldens]

when the missing tails were discovered- the vet took them off to check for missing other things, she did a quick U/S and all the organs were there and normal, stimulated them to poop.... we all just sat there floored, pretty much, and decided they would be perfect apartment Goldens since they wouldn't knock things off the tables in small spaces with their tails...
The dam had another litter, and none of them were missing anything. Hudson sired many, many litters after that, and none of the puppies had anything missing in any of those litters. I think it was truly just a case of crowded uterus in this case, like the repro vet said.

 

[Ljilly28]

Jill, I could tell you about these puppies- I am pretty sure I was there when they were born! So precious! There was a whole gang of breeders there to catch them because mama had a bellyful and we didn't notice the two had missing tails til maybe an hour later when we were putting them on mama to nurse. One had just a nub, and the other had about half his tail. They were both boys, and the vet quickly went and checked everything- stimulated them to poop, and both are still happy and healthy boys last I heard.
I suspect - vet said- that they were very,very crowded in the uterus. It seems like there were 9-10 of them and mama is a smallish bitch. That was the reason for the section in the first place. The breeder is a very reputable person, and of course both parents (my Hudson was the sire) had every clearance that was do-able. Mama had had B vitamin supplementation during pregnancy, so it wasn't a folic acid issue though I know that that sometimes can cause tails to go missing.
edit:checked dates- yep I was there. There were 10.

In that case , for sure I would gladly take one of those pups if I wanted a pet. We work with a ton of aussies, so I dont think it would bother me at all. The story interests me as the bitch her in New England also small girl just loaded with pups, and big pups. Mother Nature will always throw her curve balls for humans to catch.

 

[4goldengirls]

As long as all other health clearances were passed, I'd have no problem.

 

[AmberSunrise]

I know a breeder who also just had a large litter. One was born with no tail, one with a crinkled tail both perfectly happy, healthy and exuberant. Tailless boy just went home to a disabled vet to become his service dog. Crinkle tail will hopefully find her perfect home soon.

This breeder with a lot of experience had never had this happen before. All the other pups were perfect and have gone to their homes.

 

[alphadude]

Wow, first I've ever heard of this though I'm FAR from an authority on GR reproductive issues. Personally, I would be very torn, because I of course feel that any golden pup deserves a loving home, but I would be concerned that the lack of a tail might negatively affect the dogs athleticism. I can't imagine that their tails don't assist them in keeping their balance and making high speed maneuvers. Then again, I could be way off base. Now I'll have to research it.

 

[whiskey creek goldens]

Aren't Australian Shepherd very athletic dogs?? From my own personal experience with them They are healthy normal dogs that live long lives just like any other golden.

 

[Ljilly28]

I agree with that Aussies can jump sky high and are so athletic with no tails

 

[AlanK]

My boy was born without a front leg...... He would trade his tail for a leg any day.

Personally I would take in a tailless pooch :yes:

 

[Anon-2130948gsoni]

I have an Aussie with no tail and a BC/Aussie cross with a stub...and they are both really athletic. More so, at least for now, than my Golden puppy. So as much as I love the sound of a Golden's tail thumping on the floor...I'd take a tail-free Golden in a hot second.

It's about the dog, not about the packaging, right?

 

[Garou]

My last golden had half a tail - just born that way… We always said it was helpful 'cause he knocked only 50% of things off the coffee table when he was happy.

 

[Sally's Mom]

I would suspect that short tails or absent tails are genetic and not due to space. I had a bitch on the small side who had ten pups...not one had a short tail.. If the pup is sold as a pet, the tail length or kink, etc should not be important..

 

[vanordenmaryl]

Lol. Despite the fact that my coffee table might be safer without a tail swooshing across it, I still wouldn't take a tailless dog. I'd have the same health concerns as others have mentioned. I also think it would affect our athletic pursuits (multiple hikes per week, frequent swimming, possible agility down the road). I would prefer not to have a dog with balance challenges etc.

Any golden, tail or no tail, obviously deserves tons of love. But for me personally, I don't think a tailless golden would be a good fit.

You are totally wrong about a puppy that was born with no tail they are very healthy and faithful just like all the puppies that has a tail

 

[JerseyChris]

We do conformation so we could not but even so I am not sure.... One of the best parts of my boy is how pretty his tail is when he constantly wags it.. But certainly would consider one for a pet if they needed a home. Not sure I could say no to a Golden face..