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And you would be right- of course- but that'd mean they would have to step beyond being a registry.
From web site it appears that the AKC goes far beyond being just a registry.
 
No!!! Stay away! They also breed doodles which means they don’t care at all about preserving the breed. Their goldens also do not resemble standard at all. They don’t do clearances or participate in AKC events. They are definitely a puppy mill. My boy is from one of the top show breeders in the nation and he was $3000. I’d be happy to put you in contact with them.
 
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No!!! Stay away! They also breed doodles which means they don’t care at all about preserving the breed. Their goldens also do not resemble standard at all. They don’t do clearances or participate in AKC events. They are definitely a puppy mill. My boy is from one of the top show breeders in the nation and he was $3000. I’d be happy to put you in contact with them.
Crazy how they’re selling their puppies for $5,000 while top show breeders are humbly pricing theirs at $3,000! Yes please I’d love to inquire more information from where you got your boy! I also want a boy golden hehe.
 
Crazy how they’re selling their puppies for $5,000 while top show breeders are humbly pricing theirs at $3,000! Yes please I’d love to inquire more information from where you got your boy! I also want a boy golden hehe.
I know right! Some breeders are so unethical. I got my boy from leongolden kennels in Wellington, Florida. They don’t update their website much, but they’re active on Facebook. I also like Nautilus goldens and goldrox goldens.
 
I live in SoCal, and feel like we paid at the top of the "going rate" for our golden.

And?

I'm looking at $4,500 and thinking "that seems a bit much". Mind you, if that had been the market rate in SoCal, we'd have paid it. But...

I will note that we were looking at "comfort retrievers", in large part because of the size (25lb-to-40lb vice 60lb-and-up). These dogs came with $6K-and-up pricing. I'm sure there's a buyer for every price (or else, the prices wouldn't be where they are), but I'm okay letting others buy those puppies.
 
The Elliotts?
It's my pet peeve- I hate it when people steal a kennel name, especially one who does clearances and titles their dogs- and then start using the work those folks did to build their own inadequate program.
I wish they would have reg their kennel name w AKC. What this sort of person does is stealing, nothing less. And if someone will steal they will also lie. Rogues and thieves.
Yes, although Karen has remarried since Mike died. She told me that they have tried to register the kennel name multiple times over the years and have been denied because it’s a “common word” or some such BS. You would have to ask her as I’m a little fuzzy on the details since I get them second hand, but I’m under the impression that they have fought against these people using the name for a very long time.

Rogues and thieves indeed.
 
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They've changed that- btw- any common word isn't auto tossed out now. I think AKC changed that about 5 years ago, I got denied a few years ago for that same reason- prism is a real word, too. But as soon as I saw in the minutes they'd changed that, I reapplied and got it.
I didn't realize he'd died.
 
They've changed that- btw- any common word isn't auto tossed out now. I think AKC changed that about 5 years ago, I got denied a few years ago for that same reason- prism is a real word, too. But as soon as I saw in the minutes they'd changed that, I reapplied and got it.
I didn't realize he'd died.
I will tell her that next time I see her!
 
Do you have a link to their website? I’m in absolutely no rush to get a puppy right now, but I still definitely want to look into them!
Here is a link to the website: Welcome

They don’t post litters on there, so I don’t think I’m breaking any rules. If this post gets edited, I will PM you the link.
 
There are two issues, I wouldn't buy a puppy from this breeder.

But I have no issue with breeders charging whatever the market will support. A good breeder won't use price as the only differentiator between buyers. The demand for puppies has increased faster than the supply.

I personally would spend over $6k for a well-bred puppy from a good breeder if I could get that puppy before Christmas. I would spend $0 on a poorly bred puppy. Unfortunately I just can't find one until 2021.
 
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There are two issues, I wouldn't buy a puppy from this breeder.

But I have no issue with breeders charging whatever the market will support. A good breeder won't use price as the only differentiator between buyers. The demand for puppies has increased faster than the supply.

I personally would spend over $6k for a well-bred puppy from a good breeder if I could get that puppy before Christmas. I would spend $0 on a poorly bred puppy. Unfortunately I just can't find one until 2021.
What are the two issues you believe are with this breeder? I personally have taken them off my list but it’s good to know why people wouldn’t want from breeders that way I can learn for things to look out for.

Personally for me in my golden pup search right now getting a puppy before Christmas isn’t my goal. Right now I’m just trying to get on a waiting list and even that part holds difficult with so many people wanting a pup while they’re working from home!

I’d be very interested in knowing how this demand for puppies will be affected once people are called back to the office.
 
Hello!

I have a list of what seems to be reputable breeders from my perusing of the threads on here. Generally it seems that the golden retriever puppies from these breeders (ones that indicate prices on their websites) range from $2,000 to $3,000.

But then there is Sunnyside Goldens who prices their GR puppies at $4,500.

AKC GOLDEN RETRIEVERS | SUNNYSIDE GOLDENS

I am not saying by no means their puppies should be worth less, but I’d just like your thoughts on puppies that are priced a lot more than puppies from known breeders (such as Delmarva, puppies are $3,000). Sunnyside Goldens seems a little more “new” too.

Litters

Or do you think this is due to the increased demands of having a puppy during the pandemic?

What’s a reasonable price for a GR puppy? How about the most you would pay for a quality and healthy one?

Not looking for arguments or judgements here! Just your personal thoughts.
Our puppy will be 3500$ from the a very reputable breeder in Va -4500$ seems ridiculous except if the a Golden is healthy and leads a reasonably long life they are priceless. Probably raised the price because there is so much demand?
 
What are the two issues you believe are with this breeder? I personally have taken them off my list but it’s good to know why people wouldn’t want from breeders that way I can learn for things to look out for.

Personally for me in my golden pup search right now getting a puppy before Christmas isn’t my goal. Right now I’m just trying to get on a waiting list and even that part holds difficult with so many people wanting a pup while they’re working from home!

I’d be very interested in knowing how this demand for puppies will be affected once people are called back to the office.
I am going to buy one puppy, and he or she will be my only dog for about ten years. You can't guarantee success, but I want to do everything in my power to give the dog the best start in life and to be the type of dog I want. I spent a lot of time researching dog breeds before deciding on the Golden Retriever.

This breeder doesn't appear to be selecting breeding pairs based on a verifiable criteria or standard. There is no way to verify that the puppies they sell will have the characteristics that I want. Their decision to breed unrecognized cross breeds shows that they don't value the breed standard. They use key words to suggest they are vetting their breeding pairs against a standard, but provide no actual documentation.

They are also breeding a lot of dogs. If they had a track record of producing successful dogs, then I would be more inclined to trust that they are giving these dogs needed socialization.
 
What are the two issues you believe are with this breeder? I personally have taken them off my list but it’s good to know why people wouldn’t want from breeders that way I can learn for things to look out for.

Personally for me in my golden pup search right now getting a puppy before Christmas isn’t my goal. Right now I’m just trying to get on a waiting list and even that part holds difficult with so many people wanting a pup while they’re working from home!

I’d be very interested in knowing how this demand for puppies will be affected once people are called back to the office.
I don't think the demand will be all that affected, since good breeders haven't really changed their 'ouput' much.. if anything, many are not making as many puppies as prior to Covid. We have very real worries about how many of these puppies will suffer once they don't have 24/7 company...
And I can't speak to the issues for that member but I can't imagine anyone wanting one of those puppies - there are SO many things and the least of them is the stealing of a well-established kennel name.
 
I don't think the demand will be all that affected, since good breeders haven't really changed their 'ouput' much.. if anything, many are not making as many puppies as prior to Covid. We have very real worries about how many of these puppies will suffer once they don't have 24/7 company...
We're still crate training Molly. My partner works from home due to COVID and I know his work wants him back in the office as soon as it's safe... but like Molly still can't be up and unsupervised while he's focusing on his job. So she's is crated. Are no other WFH ppl doing this with puppies?
 
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