[Prism Goldens]

FWIW- a more correct way to state what you are looking for is Golden X Labrador cross. "Goldador" is like any other mixed breed made up name. Never gonna be a breed... never gonna find an ethical breeder who makes these on purpose.

 

[Prism Goldens]

Your beloved golden retriever originated in the early 19th century, developed after a long line of breeding from the Newfoundland, Tweed water spaniels and the Irish setter. AKC didn't recognize the golden retriever until 1925. So if social media was around prior to 1925, you'd probably all be labeled heretics for owning a mutt...go back in a time machine "puddles everywhere" and listen to the dog owners in the early 1900's: "No reputable breeder will mix a water spaniel and Irish Setter!"

The "Goldador," It is a purposeful breed that combines the best characteristics of the Golden Retriever and the Labrador Retriever. Who knows, when the Goldador becomes more popular, maybe AKC will recognize the breed.

The breed IS beloved. And no breed popped onto the earth without breeding selectively..
however, the key word is 'selective' in that sentence.
Tweedmouth had a plan, he kept records, he culled when needed, and he was able to develop a breed. The "Gold"mixers, they do none of that, they are just making money. AKC will never register this mix.

 

[Prism Goldens]

I didn't say it was a breed. Its just an amazing mix. It also prevents genetic errors that occur from overbreeding. You may not realize a lot of people don't care to spend 4 grand for a purebred, when they can get a dog thats better behaved out of a mixed breed. I think you might be calling people breeders that just have puppies for sale. You also might be making an issue were there is not one.

A lot of people on this site really like to put words in other people's mouths don't they. I never said the same genetic issue. If you lower the demand for purebred labs or goldens because there is a beautiful, smart, trainable mix thats 1/4 the price you get less overbreeding on the larger scale. Genetics 101, some genetic traits do get eliminated by mixing with a different blood line. Line breeding causes many of the genetic disorders that we see in Labs and Golden Reteivers today.

There are 100s. Learn to read, you will be able to understand. The answer you seek is in the article. I am a microbiologist and have taken several genetics classes and understand how recessive traits arose from line breeding and overbreeding. You are a waste of my time. Read.

I have a Biology degree, and an Organic Chemistry minor, as well as 40+ years in Goldens. What does that have to do with anything? Microbiology has the smell of eColi going for it but not much to do with knowing much about breeding... I know Carol (who btw is going to be featured in one of the BEC articles this year) and have spoken to her in real life, by telephone. You're misreading that which you will not quote. Labs and Goldens have, for the most part, the same recessive problems. Mixing the two isn't going to fix that. Mixed breeds whose main bases don't miss out of recessive disease, they too have issues. And there's nothing magical about mixing two sporting dog breeds that will get you a dog who has no possibility for recessive disease. You don't like how we chat here, you can leave. .. since you aren't interested in having a discussion with Kate. BTW- what is 'overbreeding' to you? How do we OVER breed a breed? Does that term even have meaning? I don't think so. Not relevant meaning.
Gosh, I wished for a haha! button like 10 times reading this thread.

 

[Prism Goldens]

Since AKC no longer publishes numbers of dogs registered by breed yearly I cannot prove this- but I do not believe there are any more litters being bred now than there were 10 years ago in the popular breeds. My point on the term 'overbreeding' is that it has no real meaning, and isn't verifiable.
And of course any of us who breed do DNA testing and know how it works. Do YOU know that Labs have many of the same diseases being tested for?
I do wonder what SRW inquired - are you trolling the Lab forum too? Because nothing you have stated here is meaningful to a Golden Retriever expert.