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First I want to say I do not have golden retrievers but instead was drawn here because some of the great (and recent) information I have read here about Pennys story and Bentleys stories with Parvo and although currently my male pup, Apollo, 7 months, has failed two parvo test, I am almost sure that is what it is. Unfortunately, his sister, Luna, also began showing signs this morning too. So since I have read the full forums here, and for days (Apollo got sick Wednesday night and was vetted Friday and Sat mornings for dehydration, and is on full meds) have researched and reviewed this virus thoroughly I do not want to ask repeated questions, and I do well know that many here are not experts, but I believe when loving their dogs, or just dogs in general, through an illness like this that some answers may come easily for them that may help save both of my pups lives! Both have had their shots and are more or less inside dogs, I believe they contracted parvo OR corona (won't know until the vet retest the fecal she got saturday morning) when we had them both altered last Friday.

This does concern me too that their systems are already compromised due to surgery, but fortunately, both had 'bounced back to their usual selves' before they fell ill.

So if anyone here can answer these questions in any capacity, I would be greatly appreciative!

1. Tamiflu - I have seen Tamiflu mentioned several times, then I seen a comment here about how it has shown effectiveness in early cases. I am wondering more here. If Luna is showing the signs this morning, I may be able to get it for her first thing, but would it still be beneficial to Apollo who is in day 4 now?

2. Age - In most instances I have seen people make reference to the Older the dog is, the better their chances, but on occasion I have seen things that said the older was worse. I know it affects older dogs less, so is the age any factor and if so which way?

3. Time - Although I know it likely definitely fluctuates, about how long did this last for any pups you have dealt with. And on age, does their age seem to make any difference in how long it last from first signs of illness until first signs of recovery?

4. Levels of illness - My own experience with parvo was 20 years ago and my doby basically laid near death unmoving and only taking fluids when forced on her. We made her live. Apollo seems to of course have no appetite, and I am have not forced him yet. (asking the doctor tomorrow about squirting some baby food chicken and rice cereal mix down his throat) but he has drank continuously. As a matter of fact he sits up quite often, looks at us (scared) in response to calling his name, or just baby talking to him, and when we dont bring him water often enough (At least today! YAY) he will drag himself off of the couch, head all the way down of course, but walk to the water dish. We do let him drink from it, but then only very minimally, and carry him back to bed. *then the bleaching and cleaning process begins again* So is this common too as a 'level' of parvo, or does it seem like Apollo has a not so horrific form of the virus?

5. My other dogs - Although we haven't officially been told its Parvo, we have done all we can do prevent the spreading. Although we have the two pups, both of whom I believe are now infected, we also have 2 adult dogs, one 6 and one we think is around 3 *rescue*. The 3 year old also had surgery last week to be altered so I am also worried about her immune system being compromised whether it is parvo (which I feel would be BETTER considering the lives of 2 more dogs are at stake and adults have a better chance) or coronavirus, which could mean I should expect to be nursing 4 dogs within the week.

We all thank you! Luna and Apollo the sick pups, and Eddie and Pandora the well dogs, for helping to answer any of these questions. And even though my dogs are all mixed and rescues I doubt many people who enjoyed dogs all of their lives don't know of at least one Golden who stole a place in their hearts, so to my favorite long gone golden, Koji, RIP.
 

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I'm by no means an expert but I am happy to share our experience and hope it helps in some way. First I am so sorry that you and Luna and Apollo are going through this. Bentley got sick on Monday morning at about 9:00 am. He had shown no symptoms until this time with the exception of not eating breakfast. He was administered the Tamiflu at about 11:00. My understanding is that needs to happen soon after the symptoms exhibit in order to be effective. I was told by our vet that older puppies have better chances for recovery because their immune symptoms strengthen with age, much like babies. As for time, Bentley was sick and hospitalized Monday, came home Tuesday, lethargic and refusing to eat and back to the hospital Wednesday. Home Wednesday night. I did not start to see marked improvement until late Saturday early Sunday. I would see little glimpses that he was recovering but not his normal self for about 5-7 days. I don't know what the vet has said regarding food but ours put us on a canned low residue formula and Bentley would not eat it. I decided that he couldn't get better without nutrition so I boiled chicken and rice then put it in a blender and added fat-free, sodium-free chicken broth to get to the texture of wet dog food. He did eat that but I only gave him 2 ounces at a time until I was sure he could keep that down. Then I increased it 1/2 ounce at a time. As for the cleaning bleach is the only disinfectant that kills the virus. After you spray the mix you need to let the surfaces air dry. I know nothing of corona virus so I can't be any help there. If I can do anything else pleas let me know. Prayers and thoughts for all your puppies to get healthy and stay healthy.
 

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Thanks!!

Thank you! It DOES help!

I think *hope* Apollo has turned a corner in the last 12 hours. He became ill last Wednesday and today has been wagging his tail, and wanting something to eat. The problem is he isn't too happy with the high energy food the vet gave us, and he is certainly disgusted with baby food, rice cereal and even the boiled chicken and rice isn't floating his furry boat right now. He is also madder than a hornet that we keep shoving dissolved pills down his throat with the dropper. But he fought back the last two times, and I was elated!

The chicken and rice I haven't offered to him since earlier this morning but I will cook some up now and try again. Still waiting to hear from the vet on the parvo/corona virus results.

Will make sure I let the bleach mix air dry now too.

I know one thing, having four dogs can be a pain in the rear sometimes, but I will def have a new appreciation for my fur babies once we make it through this.

Also reminds me that although I 'nursed' one dog through parvo 20 years ago, I was a kid, and I had no idea what my mother had done to make my first dog a survivor and not a victim of this virus.

Thanks so much and I read the entire thread *and a few others* about Bentley and I am so glad he recovered well, regardless of the time it took. Bentley and Pennys stories have kept me and my husband going for the last 2 days!

Thanks again!
 

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I am so happy to hear that Apollo is doing better. How's Luna today? If Apollo getting angry that's a real good sign :) I knew Bentley was starting to turn a corner when I put down the vet prescribed food and he looked at me like I had lost my mind. If he seems hungry but isn't interest in food of any kind, he might be nauseaus. If that is the case the vet can give him a shot to help subside it. I'm keeping you guys in thoughts and prayers. Please keep us updated on your furbabies.
 

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RIP Luna

It kills me to even write it this many days past. Luna died early Thursday morning. She wasn't even remotely as ill appearing as Apollo and we had already planned to get her into the vet that morning for IV fluids, had already started her on her antibiotic the night before.

Neither of us has said it because I think both of us feel so responsible that we didn't take Luna's illness more seriously. They never did tell us it was Parvo for sure but I have to say that from all I have heard of Parvo that Luna must have had the cardiac version of this illness. Her symptoms were not like Apollo's, and I am starting to believe that because Apollo got so sick, vomiting, that he actually got the illness (infection) out of him while Luna just held hers in. This makes the forcing water on them every couple of hours make more sense. Now that I think back about it, each and every time we forced water on Apollo, and like clockwork 2 hours later he would throw about half of it up, but each time it got a little less green and a little more clear until it stopped.

I took this picture of Luna just Tuesday night I believe, not only did I want to share a picture of my baby girl of course, but I also wanted to show how 'well' she appeared. When Apollo was three days into his illness, he was noticeably ill, not like Luna here. I kept waiting for her to 'show signs' and she didn't. Again though, her death makes me think it was a cardiac version of Parvo. At the very end she was shaking and it seemed like our gentle touches so she knew we were there were hurting her. Things I had heard about the cardiac version that basically stops their heart.



Again, I thank you so much for your help here and wish I had better news. :(
 

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I am so very sorry about Luna's passing. I think the only thing you could have done differently would have been in hospital stay for round the clock care, and I know some vets don't have that available.

It might be worthwhile to see another vet if Apollo is still struggling. The parvo test is normally one that is either positive or negative, so I don't know why your vet was not able to tell you if they had it or not.

I hope Apollo improves, dogs can survive parvo with supportive care, I have fostered puppies that did.
 

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I'm so sorry to read about Luna. :( I can't believe how quickly she went, that must have been so hard for you. I hope that Apollo is doing better now so he can help you with your grieving.
 

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So sorry to hear about Luna, please don't play the "I should have" thoughts in your head. You did the best you knew, I probably would have done the same thing.

Hoping Apollo is getting stronger, and that your other dogs are still doing well.
 

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I'm so sorry for your loss. I missed your initial thread because I was away. So sorry the update couldn't be better.

Best wishes to you - and to Apollo for a continuing recovery.
 
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