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It is blatent snobbery to use that expression for every problem dog that is mentioned on these boards.
I don't think people are doing that. :confused:

There are behavioral problems which ARE due to poor breeding practices. At least in goldens.

I referred to bad breeders as far as shih-tsus in response to somebody else's post about a dog being nasty and mean. If these dogs are mean, aggressive, snappy - that is probably a combination of handling and breeding. All of the shi's I've met (dog class + they are just a very popular dog with a lot of barn people) are awesome dogs.

This is their breed standard: As the sole purpose of the Shih Tzu is that of a companion and house pet, it is essential that its temperament be outgoing, happy, affectionate, friendly and trusting towards all.

Our PoopZoo was from a leading breeder. In 1983 we paid nearly $2000 for the puppy. Breeder had BIB awards from one end of the country to the other, including Westminster. BIS for every major show with the exception of Westminster. So your off hand comment that "bad breeder" is the reason is wrong.
Are you talking about accidents?

That is generally due to the owners in some way or other, not the breeders. Small dogs have small bladders.

I do know of small breeds of all kinds who will leak a little bit out of excitement. That happens and you can't yell at these dogs for having an accident like that. For that matter, I've seen goldens have similar "excitement piddles".

Having poop and pee accidents, that to me likely stems from the owners being lax in some way in assuming their little dog is housetrained before it actually is. It takes a LONG time before some little dogs are thoroughly housetrained. You have to understand that and not take it out on the dog.

Again, get the kids a good old beagle pup from a breeder that supplies hunters. Study all the training materials for the breed BEFORE getting the puppy so you can hit the ground running. Do not overfeed, they get fat easily and quickly. teach to run on a tread mill for those days you can't get out for a run with "Snoopy". Never let out off the lead. except in the fenced back yard. Full "hunter" style collar name plate. Because someday, the kids WILL forget and let him out.
Beagles get fat because their owners just keep them in the backyards when these dogs were bred to work. If you have a daily walk routine, that should be fine. <- My neighbors walk their beagles every day and their dogs are perfect.

They need microchips and obedience training. And beagles will run through invisible fencing.
 

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I am really impressed with a sheltie in our agility class. His handler is a very young boy and his dog has a wonderful personality and excellent obedience.
 

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We love Cricket,Schitzu/Rat Terrier mix. She weighs a little over six pounds she was the runt of the litter. She is our first small dog. We always have had 60 lbs or bigger. She does not shed, Schitzu's do not shed. Full blood Schitzu's get to around 8 - 10 pounds. She is a happy go lucky little girl and loves my grand children 4&2. If from the right breeder and handled by children from birth they are a great pet. They will do almost anything a big dog will do. Cricket plays fetch til her legs almost drop off, swims with our lab Pearl and hangs out in the shop with John. She also LOVES to be cuddle and does not mind wearing clothes (I put them on her after her grooming if it is cold). Here are pics of her in full coat,after a cut,little shirt on,& with Pearl. Cricket came from a private home, a grandmother with lots of grand children my husband paid 50.00 dollars for her. The lady started them right off with crated training and potty training. By right breeder I mean someone who cares enough to do these things. There are also plenty of small dogs in rescues too.
 

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Wanted to come back and add one more post. Went to SPCA where I volunteer the other day and saw the kind of dog I think your friend should look for. One year old, mostly yellow Lab, mixed with something smaller. Weighed about 40 lbs. sweetest boy, loved to fetch, would be a great dog with kids. With a one year old, you have a better idea of what you're getting. I hope you haven't gotten so much info your friends won't be listening! But thought Id throw this in.
 

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Border Terriers , Shelties, a well bred Dachshund... great dogs... nice temperaments but OMG the barking... bark bark bark bark bark bark bark and bark some more... that would drive me insane...

Honestly, if they aren't going to go to a good reputable breeder then send them to the shelter at least then they can save a life and not support poor breeding practices and deal with the breed specific illnesses that you run into when you get poorly bred dogs...

My vote would be young adult from the shelter....
 

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I second this. Although a shih tzu was my best friend growing up, he could be nasty ( I had lots of bites from him), and in the 17 years I had him, he was never 100 percent housebriken.
Cricket has been totally house trained from eight months. She is twenty months old and to this date no accidents. Our vet told us the same thing, little dogs are hard to house train completely. Every time she goes for her check up he asks about her potty habits, I tell him they are perfect. House training is only as good as the work and effort you put into it. Breed or size does not matter. If where you got your "puppy" the breeder started out on the crate training and potty habits and you continue on with a structured schedule. We were lucky that the woman that we got Cricket did this with them. She also had many Grandchildren and the pups were carefully and lovingly handled everyday. Nine times out of ten you will be successful. An older dog and a new owner is another thing. That depends on how responsible the previous owner was,(JMO).
 

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Cricket is adorable!! :D I see the shihtzu in her but not the rat terrier.

I had a shihtzu and he was a great dog except when it came time for grooming, mainly the brushing and clipping. He also did have occasionally accidents but he had many issues. He was a rescued dog who should never had been bred..two people decided to breed their two dogs so their kids could experience birth:doh:. He was only 4 weeks old when I got him because they were going to euthanize him :(because he couldn't walk well in his back end, after a few chiropractic treatments he walked normally:)..he went on to have many more problems and only lived a very short life but I would have one again, but probably later in life when my kids are older and really know how to respect a dogs space. Plus I've see plenty of little puppies/dogs with broken legs due to little kids picking them up and dropping them.

I prefer shihtzus over lhasas any day of the week, they have more tempermant issues.
 

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Border Terriers , Shelties, a well bred Dachshund... great dogs... nice temperaments but OMG the barking... bark bark bark bark bark bark bark and bark some more... that would drive me insane...

Honestly, if they aren't going to go to a good reputable breeder then send them to the shelter at least then they can save a life and not support poor breeding practices and deal with the breed specific illnesses that you run into when you get poorly bred dogs...

My vote would be young adult from the shelter....
We have be sooooo lucky that Cricket is not a barker,in fact I know where her brother and sister went and they are not barkers either,just as sweet disposition and good potty habits also. I also agree with the one year old 40 pound lab mix. Labs are excellent family dogs and that is a nice size, and a good age.
 
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