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Funny, I just realized that I'm an English Cream. LOL

Well, I'm actually a mix. English, Irish, Scottish, and German. I married an Italian and still have no luck!
 

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I researched as much as I could about Goldens before I got mine and have never heard the term English Creams described over here. When I went to breeders homes to put my name on their puppy lists, they had goldies with light to darker coats.
I have never seen a red golden here, only on american sites really.
I can't understand the debate about coat colour, surely if you have a healthy, sound and a goldie with a good temperament, that's enough :)
 

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3. I don't like the terms "Always buy..." or "Never buy..." when discussing pets. Not every rule follows in every situation!
LOL. That reminds me of when I got Sydney... she was the puppy that all the books say "dont get that puppy". She was sooo full of herself and confident. The first puppy to instigate play, the first to climb out of the whelping box. She was certainly a handful, but I wanted a competition puppy... one that would do anything and everything I asked without fear of the unknown. She certainly is that. People comment to me about how most dogs dont like the teeter in agility... its Sydney's favorite! She'd go up and down it all day long if I let her. As a "couch potato" pet, she likely wouldn't have done well at all, but in the right situation, she's been a great dog. I wouldn't trade her for the world! BJ
 

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Well, I have to say...that the UK club does use "cream" in their standards. It is a particular shade. Breeders will say "dark golden" to denote shade in the breeding. 'Light Gold" isnt' really accurate...that can mean a lot of shades. Cream is not the same as a Gold. Its basically white tinted in gold.

I think that we shouldn't react badly when color is mentioned. Yeah, we know its marketing but it can sound insulting. Why not educate people on what to look for in a breeder and leave color out of it.
 

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Well, I have to say...that the UK club does use "cream" in their standards. It is a particular shade. Breeders will say "dark golden" to denote shade in the breeding. 'Light Gold" isnt' really accurate...that can mean a lot of shades. Cream is not the same as a Gold. Its basically white tinted in gold.

I think that we shouldn't react badly when color is mentioned. Yeah, we know its marketing but it can sound insulting. Why not educate people on what to look for in a breeder and leave color out of it.
Leaving color out of it would be ever so much easier if the marketing of dogs by color were not the issue. Leaving color out of it is exactly what those of us who say "They are Golden Retrievers" are attempting to do.
 

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Five years ago when I was looking for a puppy, a breeder described her litter as being 'champagne' in colour.
As a lager shandy drinker I decided against viewing them as I would have been too scared to ask the price! :wave:
 

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Five years ago when I was looking for a puppy, a breeder described her litter as being 'champagne' in colour.
As a lager shandy drinker I decided against viewing them as I would have been too scared to ask the price! :wave:
I love the "champagne" bit, that's so classy...lol!!!

I'd say the only difference with goldens here in the UK is between the working and showing strains. I know one of this year's Crufts judges and she has commented how the working and showing "type" of goldens needs to be brought back together again. In the past few years the two types have strayed further and further apart, which is most definitely NOT a good idea. This has happened with many different working breeds, spaniels being one. It's got to the point where there are many show dogs who probably couldn't do the job in the field the breed was designed for in the first place. I always take my hat off to any dog in the UK that makes full Champion as he has to show he can work as well as having looks.

The only place the darker retrievers are really seen here are in the working lines... they do occasionally make it into the show ring, and what a beautiful sight they are!! Extremely dark or 'red' goldens are not seen often, if at all.

I don't understand why the retrievers in the US are different from the European dogs... is it just preference, or evolution over a long period of time.? Wouldn't it be interesting if the top dogs from all over the world came together for a competition, but which breed standard would be used????

I'm not saying the US goldens aren't as good as the English, I actually think they are stunning... just different than the English dogs. Does that make sense?
 

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So today a lady asked me what is an English cream Golden, and I basically told her that they are all Golden Retrievers just that in general the English lines can be lighter in color and bigger boned than the American lines. And just like with any other breed, some people use wording as marketing strategies so do your homework especially if they are using the word "rare". I'm not an expert by any means and I want to make sure I have the simplest factual way to answer this question. Is this good?
 

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My Jamie is only 8 months old so is still very light, his Mum was the purest white Id ever seen in a Golden&his Dad was a 'regular' golden colour - not so light,not so dark. We arent really sure how Jamie will turn out colour-wise but that is of no consequence to us as we love him very much&he is a fantastic family pet. I find it very upsetting when people bitch about each others animals especially on this wonderful forum as its been a source of great advice&pleasure over the past few months. I have to agree Yahoo Answers people are VERY unpleasant! I innocently asked about 'American line' retriever breeders in the UK&was bombarded with abuse!!!
I chose a GOLDEN RETRIEVER for a family pet because of its fantastic temprement & beautiful face:)
 

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So today a lady asked me what is an English cream Golden, and I basically told her that they are all Golden Retrievers just that in general the English lines can be lighter in color and bigger boned than the American lines. And just like with any other breed, some people use wording as marketing strategies so do your homework especially if they are using the word "rare". I'm not an expert by any means and I want to make sure I have the simplest factual way to answer this question. Is this good?

Sounds good to me.
 

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I'm a proud owner of a "rare cream" English golden. I live in a neighbourhood that the golden is the most popular choice. I have yet to come across someone that hasn't said they have never seen a golden so white, so that just goes to show that it is very rare to see a white/cream golden.

Once again, proud mommy to my white golden boy.
 

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Not only different in colour but one is a mummy's boy and the other does his own thing. Which one's which?
I would venture a guess if mommy is the one taking the picture that the one staring at the camera is the mommy's boy. The one looking away does his own thing. ;)
 

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No you are wrong. Bailey (the dark golden) is the rescue and sticks to me like glue, (except when there are bunnies or deer to chase). He's probably looking away cos he heard someone opening a bag of potato chips half a mile down the beach lol.
He came to me at 6 months old and it took me a year to sort him out. Indy is looking at the camera cos he knows how good looking he is! (Poser) :wave:
 
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