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Stormy Point Goldens, Nancy Cameron

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Well, if you read my other post, the update is that we decided to find another dog. My husband really feels strongly about getting a male. Anyway, I've actually had MUCH more luck this time then I did when I found my initial litter in November. We have what looks like 2 good options, both have boys who would be coming home Jan. 23ish. (Funny thing is that the 24th is my b-day.)

The first is Stormy Point Goldens out of Fredericksburg, VA: http://stormypointgoldens.com/index.html. We would be getting in Teddy/Kathy boy. She was recommended by a breeder in NC.

The other one doesn't have a website or anything because she only breeds every few years. The K9data for the litter is: http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=350821.She said she has more 'field type dogs'. Mom is a deep red and dad is very light. She was recommended by the Potomac Valley GRC.

What we are looking for: a family pet who might be good at agility and obedience-something I'd like to pursue more with this dog. We like the big boned, big, blocky head look with a good, thick coat. However, our #1 and 2 issues are health and temperament.

Thoughts? We go to visit both on Friday. Thanks!!!
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I kind of like some of the dogs with the first breeder. Especially "Stash" who is a grandson of Hobo (Ch Summits Mr Bojangles OS) However this current litter(Kathy&Teddy) they have bred Kathy....before she is two years . Meaning she only has prelims on her hips!

And Kathy's dam is also a product of a breeding involving a dog under 2 years of age. So it appears this breeder does not get final clearances prior to breeding. I noticed they have an OFA Elbow clearance listed on Kathy but being she is not 2 that is not true - and OFA has nothing listed in their database. Actually Kathy's sire was also under 2 at the time of the breeding although it does appear that clearances were obtained after the fact.
As for the second litter there is a problem with the k9data link and I can not tell what the breeding is.
 

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thanks Linda for the link for the second litter. I am familiar with some of the dogs behind the sire and like the pedigree very much. I was a fan of Maverick as I got to see him run a number of times over the years. I think you would definitely get the working ability you desire from this breeding but not sure how much "big boned, big, blocky head look" you will get. But as you said "our #1 and 2 issues are health and temperament." and I think you will get that from this litter. As Linda stated you need to check and verify all info.

Good Luck in your search
 

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Actually what MGMF is saying is that those clearances are not in the OFA and CERF databases. There are numerous breeders who do not register the clearance with these databases as the exam report from the specialist is the clearance for hearts and eyes. The hips and elbow clearance is actually done by OFA after the xrays are sent to them. Although hips & elbows can also be cleared by other means (OVC, Penn Hip and others). And MGMF is correct that the "normal" acceptable eye clearance must be done yearly.
So it goes back to the statement that from ANY breeder you need to see the actual clearance.
 

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One thing to keep in mind is that your "field" type goldens tend to have high energy drives and need a LOT of exercise and activity to keep them mentally stimulated. They tend to be smaller and not at all like those Goldens that are now being shown in breed with the "blocky" heads. If you prefer a dog that is calmer at home and easier to live with I would steer away from the field Goldens.
It all depends upon what your preferences are and how much time you have to devote to tiring your pup with activities.
Sorry but I have to disagree with this statement. It is a misconception. "Field" Goldens are not all high energy and not all dogs shown in breed are clam and easier to live with. Some of the highest energy dogs I have ever met were show dogs, and I personally know many calm easy to live with "field" Goldens. All the better performance dogs have very definitive "on/off" switches. All Goldens, especially when young, have LOTS of energy and need LOTS of exercise.
 
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