[Megora]

Failed elbows is a no go for me.

If you look at the clearance history behind this dog, looks like his mom also failed elbows. Or was not tested - which is the same thing as failed. That's possibly what Tangerine meant?

looking at the pics - find it pretty interesting in one of them that the dog has a big red patch (like a rub spot or callus) on the failed elbow.

 

[Megora]

Omg you’re right 😂 I was tired last night and was looking at the offspring. One of the offspring has a grand dam with failed elbows.

Actually - if you glance through offspring, the impression you come away with is this breeder does not really take elbow dysplasia seriously. At all.

So the stud dog above has elbow dysplasia.

Bred to a girlie with no clearances at all. <= Which tells you that this breeder will let anyone use her stud dogs.

Produced a girlie who got her clearances (kept by owner of stud dog, I am assuming) - who was then bred to another boy with elbow dysplasia, and produced 2 offspring with elbow dysplasia.

Elbow dysplasia does not magically go away - especially if you keep breeding dogs with it.


Other thing, fwiw.... though this is not as concerning to me as the elbows and history of breeding dogs without full clearances. 10 for a combined score is the highest you can score and still get a "Good" on the hip. 11+ is fair. <= That is more information than we get with OFA and certainly would be a little extra to consider before breeding to a girlie who has fair hips?

 

[Megora]

I generally don't comment on conformation litters. (Don't like what the conformation ring has done to dog breeds in general and especially goldens and labs in particular, but that's another topic.)

Without conformation, you lose type.