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here's some more info for you to digest, the ever cynic that I am was googling for things like do vets cause medical issue to make money. I first came across Catherine Odriscal 18 years ago when I first got Fred and the Golden Retriever Companion book was the first book I bought on Golden Retrievers.
Anyway have a look, there is a mention on seizures in there


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Noting that davebeech's Tom has been prescribed a new seizure med that is used for humans, here's a link to a long list of human seizure drugs: Seizure Medicines | epilepsy.com. The list looks pretty comprehensive and the site may have other potentially valuable information for us. I will update as I have a chance to explore further.

I guess it's good that there are so many anti-seizure meds being developed, but it's also a bit scary.
 

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2 year old having Grand Mal Seizures

Hello, new to the forum and come seeking advice from others. We rescued a 1 1/2 year old golden girl from a home that was not giving her the attention she needed and deserved last August. Locked in a crate 15 hours a day and beat on by a little boy, she has come along way. We got her shortly after our 4 1/2 yr old black lab died of cancer. Two months after her being with us (october), she began having seizures. She had had 1 with previous owner in April that I had not known about prior to taking her in. They started out only 2-4 a day and were spread out then quickly she was having them every hour and a half at which point the vet put her on Phenylbarbitol (end of October). The meds worked to cluster them and she was able to recover quickly, only having a cluster once a month. Although we kept having to up the dose and it got to the point where the medication was ineffective and he changed her to Potassium Bromide in March. It started out at 4 mL twice a day and now we are up to 7 mL!!! If I should forget to give her a dose, she WILL seize (know this by experience). Medicating her has consumed our family's life. She is playful and alert when up but stumbles all the time. Lately, she can go from playing ball to falling flat on her face just trying to walk up the steps. She paces the floor and can't seem to find her balance. I am waiting on the vet to call me back to discuss the recent changes I see in her from the meds. I am going insane. I cannot handle it much longer do not wish to go through loosing another dog but what am I to do? She is merely a baby and I am at a loss.
 

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OurGirl...if you haven't started your our thread, I incourages you to do so.

My Tailer has had 47 seizures in a little over three years. We just had t o increase his KBr...he is in the stumbly stage...it could last at least a month... :( ...but he has always bounced back. He oes wear a life jacket when he swims due to leg weakness...you can rad more about that if you want...

Good luck with your girl...fingers n paws crossed for all of you!
 
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Hello, new to the forum and come seeking advice from others. We rescued a 1 1/2 year old golden girl from a home that was not giving her the attention she needed and deserved last August. Locked in a crate 15 hours a day and beat on by a little boy, she has come along way. We got her shortly after our 4 1/2 yr old black lab died of cancer. Two months after her being with us (october), she began having seizures. She had had 1 with previous owner in April that I had not known about prior to taking her in. They started out only 2-4 a day and were spread out then quickly she was having them every hour and a half at which point the vet put her on Phenylbarbitol (end of October). The meds worked to cluster them and she was able to recover quickly, only having a cluster once a month. Although we kept having to up the dose and it got to the point where the medication was ineffective and he changed her to Potassium Bromide in March. It started out at 4 mL twice a day and now we are up to 7 mL!!! If I should forget to give her a dose, she WILL seize (know this by experience). Medicating her has consumed our family's life. She is playful and alert when up but stumbles all the time. Lately, she can go from playing ball to falling flat on her face just trying to walk up the steps. She paces the floor and can't seem to find her balance. I am waiting on the vet to call me back to discuss the recent changes I see in her from the meds. I am going insane. I cannot handle it much longer do not wish to go through loosing another dog but what am I to do? She is merely a baby and I am at a loss.
Welcome to the Forum! I'm so glad that you have found us as you face the trauma of your little girl's seizures. All of us know how terribly difficult it is to care for seizure pup and live within the strict regime of their meds and the consequences of slipping from the schedule.

The side effects of the seizure meds cause the symptoms you describe - the loss of coordination, some of the thirst, the balance issues... The seizures themselves also cause loss of coordination, disorientation, and the pacing that is so painfully familiar.

Seizures as frequent as the clusters you describe can cause brain damage and event death if they are not brought under control, so I urge you to continue the meds and to consult a veterinary neurologist about the cause. There are many meds that can help, some with fewer side effects.

If you find that you are not able to cope with this pup, either emotionally or financially, I hope your local Golden rescue will take her in. The one in this area has a number of seizure dogs that they keep and maintain on the meds, since placing a dog with seizures is never easy.

Like Tailer'sFolks, I hope you will start a new thread of your own about this experience. If you title the thread something like "Need help - young Golden with seizures," that will signal everyone who follows the seizure forum that we have a new member in need of support.

Hugs and prayers for you and your sweet pup.
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10 Year old Golden w/First seizures

This is my first post but I am desperately need of some help/advice:

Beauregard (Beau Beau) my 10 year old Golden had his first set of seizures at the end of May (2013). No prior activity. Symptoms were localized -- teeth chomping and drooling (that's it). I first thought that he had swallowed something (cicadas were in season). After a while I took him to the emergency Vet -- temp was 108 and he ended up in an ice bath and then I learned they were seizures. After every test known to man (MRI; X-ray; ultrasound; spinal Tap; blood teats etc.) everything turned up negative (no tumors/no cancer/no tick bite). After 12 days in emergency care he was stabilized and came home. (On phenobarbital and Keppra.) All returned to normal until three days ago when the teeth chomping/drooling started again. His anti-seizure meds had been reduced and he has hypo-thyroidism and takes meds for that. He is still in emergency care on heavy valium -- when they took him off the valium before the teeth chomping started again. Vets are thinking to wean him off valium today then re-start all meds with higher doses. My concern is that we still have no idea what is causing this. All we are doing is damage control. Can anyone assist?!!
 

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Im sorry your going through this, I have a dog that has seizures, same as you, every test given, to this day the only common thing when Abbie has her seizures is the full moon. Hers are always 48 hours after a full moon. she is on phenobarb and once we got the right dosage, in Aug it will be 2 years since her last seizure.
 
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This is my first post but I am desperately need of some help/advice:

Beauregard (Beau Beau) my 10 year old Golden had his first set of seizures at the end of May (2013). No prior activity. Symptoms were localized -- teeth chomping and drooling (that's it). I first thought that he had swallowed something (cicadas were in season). After a while I took him to the emergency Vet -- temp was 108 and he ended up in an ice bath and then I learned they were seizures. After every test known to man (MRI; X-ray; ultrasound; spinal Tap; blood teats etc.) everything turned up negative (no tumors/no cancer/no tick bite). After 12 days in emergency care he was stabilized and came home. (On phenobarbital and Keppra.) All returned to normal until three days ago when the teeth chomping/drooling started again. His anti-seizure meds had been reduced and he has hypo-thyroidism and takes meds for that. He is still in emergency care on heavy valium -- when they took him off the valium before the teeth chomping started again. Vets are thinking to wean him off valium today then re-start all meds with higher doses. My concern is that we still have no idea what is causing this. All we are doing is damage control. Can anyone assist?!!
Welcome to the Forum. I also offer you a sad welcome to our seizure community, where we'd all rather not belong but we are all grateful for the abundant support of others who are going through this or have in the past.

My own experience with canine seizures is describe in this thread: http://www.goldenretrieverforum.com...res/85243-seizures-starting-12-years-old.html. Please forgive me for being direct. I wish that I could offer you encouragement, but the most common causes of seizures in sugar-faced Goldens are brain tumors and strokes. Meds buy some time...a year or two, usually... but all of us hate the side effects.

I encourage you to start a new thread of your own so that everyone knows that you are here. It gives you a place to look for support, as well as place to record what happens and the response from others.

We will be here for you. Promise.
 

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Thanks and understand this may be just buying time. I am OK with that. At 10 years we already have a wealth of great memories with Beau Beau. Took your advice and started a new thread. Spoke with the Vet just now, and he is off the Valium and so far symptom free. Saying my prayers . . .
 

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My Boston terrier had seizures starting when she was one. They were mild and didnt happen often. She had her first grand mal about a year ago and was started on medication. We lost her five days ago to a grand mal seizure, she was 13. I have a golden that just turned one and I pray he never has a seizure, it's so hard to watch them go through that.
 

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My Boston terrier had seizures starting when she was one. They were mild and didnt happen often. She had her first grand mal about a year ago and was started on medication. We lost her five days ago to a grand mal seizure, she was 13. I have a golden that just turned one and I pray he never has a seizure, it's so hard to watch them go through that.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Losing a beloved dog for any reason is bitterly hard, but I think that dealing with their seizures creates a special bond that makes losing them even harder.
 

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My Barney boy had his 3rd seizure

Barney is my 6 yr old boy, he went 3 weeks without a seizure...after the first, I freaked out, prayed, he came around, disoriented, but happy as a clam and panting, drove him to the vet, and after they did blood work and reminded me that I have a healthy boy...they sent us home. Exactly 7 days later, same time, Barney had his 2nd
My theory: we left for 10 days, his original owner watched him, he felt double abandoned and maybe stressed out?? Then I thought it was the confortis...but he's been taking it for 5 months...?
This time the vet put him on pheno....which was quite an adjustment for all of us. How I miss my Barney boy's personality! He is about 75% but today had another, his 3rd...why why why? He went 3 weeks...so I'm guessing they'll increase the meds...which I'm dreading for my boy! He will go to the vet tomorrow.
I live in HIS world, Im living in fear for my boy, and I worry he hurts, worries, is confused and sooo exhausted....any advice?? He is clingy times 100...and prob senses my unease...so trying to stay positive! Just when I thought he was coming around....and things were looking better!
We're in the midst of relocating to hot and humid land so he needs heart worm meds and Lyme disease vaccines/shots! Ahhhh! Vet said tryfectas (sp??) but I see that mAy cause seizures?!
I just want my boy to be okay.
 

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my sweet boy started having seizures in the middle of the night. it was so scary all I could do was cry and be there for him. we took him to the emergency clinic, after giving him meds to control them and doing tests we were told he had a brain tumor. My heart sank. This was a Thursday. by Sunday he was having trouble walking and kept falling down. Watching that beautiful dog was just to painful. I would not watch my sweet boy [ TOXEY] suffer. We loved him too much for that.

So on Monday. March 21.2011 my precious went to play with the angels and be well again.I know he's waiting for us at Rainbow Bridge with his big goofy smile
 

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Welcome, newcomers!

If you have not already done so, I encourage you to start a thread of your own to share your seizure journey with us. We all benefit from learning through the experiences of others and receiving support from people who have been on this path longer than we have.

For those who have lost a dog, a thread in the Rainbow Bridge forum is a good way to share memories and photos of the Golden angel, helping to create a memorial of sorts. It's also a way to find support from others who know what it is like to lose a beloved dog.
 

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I lost my sweet Jago 5 years ago from seizures. He was having massive seizures every hour. We had to put him down. Hardest thing I have ever had to do. I have no wisdom here. I couldn't help my boy. No medicine would cure him and the seizures were getting worse and worse leaving him in worse condition. We fed him some roast and milk and took family photos and loves on him with all our hearts before letting him go. I wish I had this community back then. I really do. He was a Pomeranian not a GR though. Nevertheless I would have come here. There is a wealth of knowledge here.


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I lost my sweet Jago 5 years ago from seizures. He was having massive seizures every hour. We had to put him down. Hardest thing I have ever had to do. I have no wisdom here. I couldn't help my boy. No medicine would cure him and the seizures were getting worse and worse leaving him in worse condition. We fed him some roast and milk and took family photos and loves on him with all our hearts before letting him go. I wish I had this community back then. I really do. He was a Pomeranian not a GR though. Nevertheless I would have come here. There is a wealth of knowledge here.


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I'm so sorry that you lost your Jago. You are always welcome to join us here.

I hope you'll start a thread about Jago, whether here or in the Rainbow Bridge forum, and share stories about and photos of him. Many of us here know what is like to lose a dog, especially to seizures.

Peace be with you.
 

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Attached is a paper about seizures in cats and dogs that I just came across. Written by a veterinarian at U.C. Davis, it provides extensive information about diagnostic procedures, causes of seizures, discussion of medications and side effects, and a host of other useful information. This may be helpful to many of us and it's perhaps worth sharing with our veterinarians.
 

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Does anybody know of any current research in to canine epilepsy in Golden retrievers in the UK?
Here's a pointer to a UK-based canine epilepsy site: Canine Epilepsy Website.

Here is the site of a U.K. expert who includes some links to current research, including a DNA study: Clare Rusbridge - Seizures and Epilepsy.

Here is information about a new drug that in use in the UK but not in the USA: Pexion | Pexion is a treatment for dogs with primary epilepsy..

This article provides a variety of information about canine seizures and also describes Ollie's Fund, a special fund to support canine seizure research by the Animal Health Trust (AHT): http://www.k9magazine.com/canine-epilepsy-seizures-in-dogs/. The AHT site is here: http://www.aht.org.uk/.

And here is the site of another U.K. team of specialists with an interest in canine epilepsy: http://vetspecialists.co.uk/factsheets/Neurology_Facts/Treatment_Epilepsy.html.

I hope these help!
 
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