Thank you for your responses. I guess we will wait to meet a good breeder. I have called a few breeders and sent e-mails. 11 years ago we lived in a different age of technology. I am finding that a web-site can be very deceiving until you go see where the puppies sleep and live . This breeder has all the required checks, screening and guarantee's but had three litters of puppies, and very unclean accommodations for even a human let alone a puppy. Is this normal?