[Bogey's Mom]

I have a question about repeat breedings. I know they are fairly common, but I am curious about the outcomes. Are the puppies from the second litter basically clones of the first or can there be some variation? I've never seen two dogs from different breedings with the exact same parents. (Am I even using the correct wording here?)

It seems the repeat breedings would be done because the breeder liked what they got the first time around, but is there a chance the second time could produce something very different? For example, if a field golden and a conformation golden were bred twice is it possible that one litter might be more field-y and the other more conformation-y??

If there is variation, how much is possible?

Just curious because humans with the same parents can obviously turn out VERY differently, so I wasn't sure how it worked in the doggie world.

Thanks to the experts for indulging me and all my novice questions!

 

[jwemt81]

My Tucker is a result of a repeat breeding. Our breeder was beyond happy with the pups that resulted from the first breeding, both in temperment and health. She even kept one of the females for herself, who we have met, and we have seen pictures of a couple of Tucker's brothers. I think that they look pretty similar, but I'm not sure about personality since we only met his sister for a short time and only saw pictures of 2 of his brothers.

Here is a picture of Tucker and the one below it is of his 2 full brothers from the previous litter that our breeder had sent us. I think they look pretty similar

Brothers

 

[Pointgold]

It depends on whether it is a line breeding, or an outcross. If a line breeding, the results are more likely to be similar to the first breeding. If an outcross, you cannot be so sure.

 

[Bogey's Mom]

While we're on that subject, Laura, how do I know the difference if I am looking at a k9data pedigree? And, a related question, can you please tell me how to read COI information?

I am trying to learn this stuff but it sure is confusing!

 

[Griffyn'sMom]

There is always variation - but I think they are looking for consistancy.

This is a picture of Griff - lower right and a couple of shots of his littermate on the left. The duo shots are Griff's littermate and their sister from a repeat breeding.

 

[Traz]

I am getting ready to get a puppy from the same 2 parents of our other puppy. The dogs I have seen in the first litter look similar. Sucker for Gold on here has a littermate to my current Golden. They liik almost like twins. We just gottogether this laborday weekend so the puppies could play & our families could visit.
We also saw the puppies from the new litter while we were in Erie. The boys in this litter look lighter & girls a little darker. I think they can look similar or be just as different as peoples siblings.

 

[Bogey's Mom]

This is so fascinating to me. Thank you for everyone who is weighing in. I know nothing about the breeding/pedigree side of things, so I always have to seek outside counsel.

I know of two breeders who are in the process of repeat breedings, and now that I've done a little more googling/k9dataing I think both are outcross breedings, so I was curious how different the results could be.

One litter is a field style bitch with a conformation style dog and the other is an English/Australian (?) bitch with a conformation style dog. (Again, sorry if I'm using all the wrong wording - don't hesitate to correct me. It's a learning process.) I've seen pictures of puppies from both first litters and just wondered what the others might look like. I have no interest in one of the litters but was still curious about what the outcomes might be.

If any of the breeders here have clear photos of puppies you've bred from repeat breedings, I'd love to see them.

 

[Swampcollie]

If any of the breeders here have clear photos of puppies you've bred from repeat breedings, I'd love to see them.

Here ya go!

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/Swampcollie/2007 Litter/Six weeks old/50207asmall.jpg


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/Swampcollie/100505a.jpg


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/Swampcollie/DCP_3815.jpg

 

[K9-Design]

Puppies from one litter are not identical twins, their genes are each a unique mix of their parents' genes, just like you and your brother are not twins but both have the same parents. The same is true of repeat breedings. You have exactly the same "chance" of looking similar or not with every puppy.
You would just say they are full siblings but not littermates, really nothing more to it than that.

 

[Bogey's Mom]

Here ya go!

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/Swampcollie/2007 Litter/Six weeks old/50207asmall.jpg


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/Swampcollie/100505a.jpg


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/Swampcollie/DCP_3815.jpg

Oh my! Those sure are some CUTE puppies!

 

[Bender]

My Girl's breeder has done a few repeat breedings and all of them are on k9data (most have pictures)...

Guess and River:

http://www.k9data.com/offspring.asp?ID=51335

Overall the first litter was a bit nicer than the second, no idea why, but that's how it ended up. The other repeat litters don't have as many pictures, but I think they were about the same with each litter. Again no expert but I think it depends on outcross or line bred and so on.

Lana