[tintallie]

Wiggles uses a 23 inch (58cm) prong with 3.25mm links made by Herm Sprenger. The difference between him using it and not is amazing and I have a much calmer dog beause of it. At dfferent points in the walk, I will detach the prong from the leash but leave it on, and he will still walk nicely on just a nylon slip collar. it's a work in progress...I would like to eventually wean him off of it, but it's going to take daily training and consistency.

 

[tintallie]

Is this Herm Sprenger Prong Collar better then those regular one for $10.
I see it for approx. $30, so I wonder what is the difference.
Joe

The Herm Sprenger ones are much better for both prong and choke collars. We use one made from Curogan which is a copper and tin alloy so it won't discolour Wiggles' fair coat. He has a choke collar that is chrome plated and it started turning his fur grey...If you get the stainless steel version, it should last you YEARS according to Ed Frawley from Leerburg.com. You can also by the different prong collars from leerburg.com and if you want the curogan version you have to go to k9toolbox.com

 

[tintallie]

I was sold a Herm. Sprenger Pinch Collar at a dog training class that we only attended twice. I do use it on Chaucer as he's pulled me down a number of times. Here are some issues/questions I have.

When I put it on him, it seems as if the prongs are already digging into his neck; yet it often slips part way down. Taking out another link would be impossible. So, do I need a different size prong collar altogether? (I honestly don't know which size I have.)

I find the collar effective but only if I keep about a six inch lead between the collar and my hand. Although Chaucer seems to dislike the collar and sometimes avoids me when I want to put it on him, I don't feel as if I get the control I'd like.

Wish I could get some prong lessons. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

If the collar slips down, it is still considered loose. I had the same experience when I first sized Wiggles with the collar. If you go to Leerburg Dog Training - How to fit a Prong Collar for Dog Training it will actually show you where the prong collar is supposed to sit. When the collar is on, you shouldn't even be able to turn it into position or barely slip one finger under between prong and skin.

 

[tintallie]

Both the prong collar and halti/gentle leader are training tools, but the major difference is that you can deliver a correction on the prong more effectively. If I had put a halti on my dog, I would have to wrench his neck in order for him to get the point because he is so stubborn even with a choke collar.

My dog would actually pull through a gentle leader easy walk harness and wouldn't self-correct himself. You still have to make a conscience effort to train your dog no matter what collar you use. However, on the GL Easy Walk Harness, I could not correct the dog if he went and grabbed something with his mouth. I actually had to put him on harness, choke collar , and 2 leads!!

BTW, if anyone wants a GL Easy Harness..PM me and pay shipping, it's yours...

My husband can deliver a hard enough correction that the dog heels nicely for him on a choke collar whereas the prong collar doesn't do much for him which is opposite for me.