[skeller]

My daughter moved home with her cavachon (cavalier/bichon mix) over a year ago. Due to various reasons, mainly being a busy 25 year old owner, she never had her spayed. We had an appointment months ago, then she went into heat, so it never got done. This summer I rescued Max, a cavachon as well. We wanted to neuter him, but he was painfully thin and he had been abused, so the vet told us to wait. Low and behold, Katie went into heat again, we caught them tied a number of times. She was quite receptive.
I am thinking pups may be on the way. These "incidents" occured between Oct. 5 and Oct. 10. The vet said that we should wait 20 days at least before doing an ultrasound. Do we think puppies are on the way.
Another question, there was some blood in her urine this morning. What may theis mean? ​

 

[AquaClaraCanines]

she may have a uti. its not to late to have her spayed.

 

[fostermom]

she may have a uti. its not to late to have her spayed.

I agree.

I have to add, and it may not be looked upon favorably, that you gave this long drawn out explanation on why the female wasn't spayed and the male wasn't neutered and then say they were tied several times. That doesn't sound the least bit accidental to me. It sounds like a planned breeding.

 

[skeller]

Not being defensive, and certainly not appreciating the accusatory tone, the explanation is true and honest. The "ties" took place out in our yard, when they out to do their business. My 23 year old son was home with them, let them out, and informed me about a week later that this happened a few times. I am not a breeder, and I did not know that this might happen while she was in heat. I thought that pregnancy takes place after the heat. I may seem irresponsible, but if she is pregnant, we will be fine with that as well. I am not a deceitful person, nor irresponsible. This will be fine either way, I am laid back, and I had the attitude that if it happens, it happens.
I don't want to cause a stir here, or an argument, just looking for some advice.

 

[MurphyTeller]

I am not a breeder, and I did not know that this might happen while she was in heat. I thought that pregnancy takes place after the heat.

I'm sorry - I just can't fathom how you didn't know that sex during ovulation causes pregnancy! Yes, pregnancy takes place after the bitch is in heat, insemination and fertilization happens DURING the season. Seriously - don't you have children of your own? Surely you know how that happened. Did it not occur to you that maybe you should separate your two intact animals when the bitch was in season? That you add that she was quite receptive...:doh:

I'd suggest having your 25 year old daughter who was too busy to be responsible to take her dog in for a spay do so NOW while it is still safe to spay a pregnant bitch...and then perhaps you should have a conversation with both your children about where babies come from.

 

[Cam's Mom]

Blood in the urine needs appropriate vet care, whatever the reason, immediately. UTI's are very painful.

 

[Willow52]

... I am not a breeder, and I did not know that this might happen while she was in heat. I thought that pregnancy takes place after the heat.

And neither your 25 y.o. daughter nor your 23 y.o. son knew either?

You're kidding, right?

Sorry if this sounds accusatory, but I'm :roflmao: here.
:bricks1:

 

[missmarstar]

You can still spay her. Unless you know all that goes into whelping and raising puppies, I'd do that immediately before it's too late to be able to do so. Please don't purposely bring more mixed breed animals into the world while so many are waiting in shelters for a good home already.

 

[BeauShel]

I would get her to the vet to check out if there is an UTI going on and while you are there, have the vet check to see if there are any signs of her being pregnant. And if she is not then have her spayed once the medical issue is cleared up.
Hopefully she is not pregnant.
Not everyone is an expert in the breeding process and when a dog is in their fertile period. Yes what happened could have been avoided but it cant be changed now so lets try to help them with the problem and not throw accusations.

 

[skeller]

ok, I'm done here!

 

[skeller]

I would get her to the vet to check out if there is an UTI going on and while you are there, have the vet check to see if there are any signs of her being pregnant. And if she is not then have her spayed once the medical issue is cleared up.
Hopefully she is not pregnant.
Not everyone is an expert in the breeding process and when a dog is in their fertile period. Yes what happened could have been avoided but it cant be changed now so lets try to help them with the problem and not throw accusations.

Thank you for your advice. It's nice to know that some people can be civil. I am seriously done with this board.

 

[Nicole74]

I'd take her into the vet's right away and check for a UTI or maybe kidney stones. Let the vet know what happened and take it from there. Hopefully they will be able to spay her soon.

 

[nixietink]

What happened/why it happened is, at this point, not important.

What is important is that you take her to the vet and see if you can have her spayed immediately.

 

[Bender]

And neither your 25 y.o. daughter nor your 23 y.o. son knew either?

You're kidding, right?

Sorry if this sounds accusatory, but I'm :roflmao: here.
:bricks1:

Yeah my thoughts too, perhaps some education on the birds and the bees is required for the whole family, if nobody realized where babies (human or canine) come from....

Really? Nobody knew or put it together? Really?

Had to look up this thread and read it... sigh.

Lana

 

[janine]

You are are mean!! Not really.... If her kids don't know where them babies come from she is going to have a lot more to worry about than puppies. I do hope she takes that poor dog to the vets....she is the one that is most important now.

 

[Susan6953]

Not everyone knows about dog sex; I never heard of being "tied" until I joined the forum.

Most of the time blood in the urine is microscopic; when you can see blood it means there is A LOT of blood. Get her to the vet asap.

 

[momtoMax]

Sorry, my two cents, it's not accidental it's lazy and you wanted puppies. You'll sell them all for a good amount as well, I'm sure. Anyone coming here looking for advice with that kind of back information is going to have to face the music. If you didn't want puppies you should have had her spayed period. There is no good enough excuse - it's not like it's time consuming for you. If your daughter was it? doesn't have the time to take her dog to the vet to be spayed (how far of a drive is your vet?), I don't see how she has the time to do anything with the dog - perhaps a rehoming would be in order then?

 

[Ljilly28]

My mom looked at cavaliers for a while, and found how careful you have to be about heart testing issues before breeding any two cavaliers- it's a very big deal.

 

[Loisiana]

My mom looked at cavaliers for a while, and found how careful you have to be about heart testing issues before breeding any two cavaliers- it's a very big deal.

Yep, I love the breed and would love to have one, but I've just heard too much about the heart problems.

 

[Bozema]

My sister has cavaliers and chose her breeder very carefully because of the heart issue. Unfortunately this lovely little breed is now facing popularity and the overbreeding and the stupid crosses that result. It's like any dog breed, you have to research the breed and choose a breeder who takes health clearances seriously. If I was looking for a toy breed, I'd choose a Cavalier in a heartbeat (pun intended) but I'd choose carefully who I got it from.