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My wife and I have been considering a new pup since our house had the life sucked out of it New Years Eve when we lost our precious "Babe" to renal failure. She was a gift to us from a fishing buddy 14 years ago. Since we first brought her home at 8 weeks of age, she was a super girl who grew and maintained an adult weight of 56-58 lbs throughout her life. We exercised her everyday with walks, ball fetching and swimming. She loved her yard and her office (she came to work every day as the client greeter) and never spent a single moment in a boarding kennel. She enjoyed the best of food as my wife cooked for her throughout most of her adult life. In the end after weeks of subcutaneous fluid administration she would no longer eat, and we had to muster up the courage to do what was best. We had a Vet come to our home where she died in our arms. I never wanted to play God and it is indescribable how emotionally painful that was.

My brief foray looking for another pup to bring into our lives has been somewhat discouraging. I get it ...all the criteria set forth by breeders is understandable. The problem is determining or filtering through the pretenders. I've seen those that claim to have checked all the boxes just to find reviews that state otherwise. This past weekend I happened to meet a gentleman on the beach walking a young 2 yr old that was recently diagnosed with hip and elbow issues. Just happened to confirm the bad review I had seen regarding that exact breeder. Belonging to an organization(s) does not make a reputable breeder. Truth in advertising is out the window even in some referral networks and that's a **** shame.

I'm here to hopefully learn without having to drown in research to provide a home we can share with a new character and personality that isn't plagued with inherent joint and health issues from a reckless money driven pretender. Three thousand, thirty five hundred or so seems to be the $ number. I have no problem with that and granted nothing is a given. I just want to sift through the disingenuous and not let emotion guide us, so I'm all ears.

Thanks to all who understand, Dog Carnivore Plant Fawn People in nature
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Welcome to the forum! And I am so sorry for your loss. It sounds like Babe had a wonderful, long life and was blessed to have you. Please let us know how we can help you!
 
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Welcome to the Forum! I'm so sorry for your loss. 14 years is a wonderful life span for a Golden, but I know it is never long enough.

There is a lot of great information here on the forum, including a lot about how to weed out the "bad" breeders from the "good" ones. The best and easiest way is to insist that all dogs used for breeding have the four core clearances proscribed by the GRCA Code of Ethics. As you may already know, that means hip and elbow clearances (done no younger than 24 months), a heart clearance (done by a cardiologist and not a practitioner or specialist), and yearly eye clearances. Although not "required" by the Code, it's good to see DNA testing as well, especially for things like Ichthyosis and NCL. All of these clearances should ideally be independently verifiable in ofa.org so that you don't have to take a breeder's word that they've been done.

I don't want to inundate you with the things you already know, so just give us an idea of how informed you are about things like clearances, how to verify them in the OFA database, the K9Data database, etc., and we can help you fill in the gaps.

There are also threads on the Forum discussing reputable breeders in most areas of the country. I encourage you to use the "Search Community" function to find them, but if you let us know what state(s) or area(s) you are willing to look in, we may be able to help you with either suggestions or links.
 

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Welcome to the forum. I'm sorry to hear about your loss of Babe. Many of us here have experienced loss so we can relate to the pain. Please feel free to share more photos and stories about Babe if it helps. It sounds like she had a great life with you. There's lots of great info on the forum to help you learn how to evaluate breeders and lists of reputable breeders compiled for various areas of the country. Also plenty of experienced and knowledgeable folks to answer any questions you might have.
 

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She was a beauty! And obviously very much loved. Most of us here can relate to the pain and grief you are feeling. I personally have had to say goodbye to 4 goldens over the past 30+ years, and now I have a wonderful boy who will turn one year old tomorrow. We did lots of research and finally found him from a wonderful breeder who does all her breeding by the GRCA code of ethics. We waited over a year for our boy, but he is well worth it. I'm sure if you keep asking questions and researching breeders, you'll find a perfect pup to ease the loss of Babe. She will never be replaced, but a new pup can certainly find it's own way into your heart. Keep checking the forum, and ask lots of questions from each breeder you find that meets your requirements. If at all possible, don't just look at local breeders, there are many great ones all over the US. We live in Missouri and drove to Wisconsin for our Jackson, and would have gone even further for the right breeder! Good luck, and keep checking.
 
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...Thanks to all for the suggestions, advice and the condolences. We'll be looking in for some guidance thru the process and who knows, maybe we can get lucky enough to find another. We are in the DE.MD.VA. region so NJ, PA. are all within easy reach.
 

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Welcome! Your post was so moving and even equally heartbreaking is your happening upon a young pup with such hip and elbow issues. It sounds like you're very savvy in distinguishing the B$ from actual reputable breeders and are set in finding a puppy from a good breeder.

Since you're on the east coast, might I suggest you attend some nearby dog shows (in conformation, agility, obedience, etc)? In taking our own puppy to dog shows, we've come across a handful of people asking us where we got our puppy from, and it's a great, fast, and efficient way to whittle down good breeders in your areas. I would say the overwhelming number of dogs that compete in AKC events come from breeders who you would also want a puppy from. Also a great way for you to see in person temperament and health and looks of a puppy coming from a particular breeder.

You can visit this link to check out upcoming events near you: American Kennel Club - Event Search
 

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Welcome to the forum! I, too, found this resource after losing a beloved golden to cancer, and it helped me learn how to ask the right questions, and what to look for in a breeder. Please be open to traveling by air to get your pup; it's not nearly as daunting as it sounds, and your search for a breeder might benefit from expanding beyond the East coast.

(I flew from CA to Toronto to get our boy, who turned 3 in October. I've since learned of a few reputable breeders (with stunning dogs) here in CA who I will turn to once I can convince DH (and myself) that the puppy-phase wasn't really that bad 🤪 )

Babe looks like an absolutely sweetheart; I'm so sorry for your loss. It does suck to have to play God, but you did the kindest thing for her by doing that, and that is the highest honor you can give her. Sending peace for your heart 🕊
 

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Welcome to the Forum. My heart hurts for you. Babe definitely looks like she was your best girl. I love the photo of her waiting for her birthday. All the best in your search.
 
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I lost my last golden 4 years ago and still have tears when I think about him. There is a lot of good information here, and hopefully the more senior members can point you in the right direction.
 

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I simply loved the picture of you holding Babe. So much love in that embrace. Welcome to the Forum. There are many people here who can be helpful, as well as loads of relevant information.
 
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I simply loved the picture of you holding Babe. So much love in that embrace. Welcome to the Forum. There are many people here who can be helpful, as well as loads of relevant information.
Thank you and everyone on the forum for the kinds words. Babe was a once in a lifetime dog who could do it all. Easiest dog to train and a complete angel when indoors. She could really turn up the wick outside with blistering speed and retrieve ability. Loved to hunt, swim, go fishing and flush nuisance geese off suburban playgrounds. She loved people and tolerated my wife dressing her up at Christmas and the holidays. It saddens me and I feel terrible for those of you who had to endure health issues with your dogs. We were very fortunate to have had 14 trouble free years until the end. I was told that kidney failure was not a painful way to go so that brought some emotional relief for us and compassion for others who weren’t so fortunate.

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Babe was a once in a lifetime dog who could do it all. Easiest dog to train and a complete angel when indoors. She could really turn up the wick outside with blistering speed and retrieve ability. Loved to hunt, swim, go fishing and flush nuisance geese off suburban playgrounds. She loved people and tolerated my wife dressing her up at Christmas and the holidays.
I'm so sorry for your heartache over losing Babe. She definitely sounds like the ultimate Golden girl, and wow, did you all get lucky having her for 14 years - I know a lot of people who would give a limb to have 14 years with their most special Golden - a lot of people. Thank you for sharing her photos, she wasn't just beautiful on the inside, what a lovely girl. Is there any chance you have her pedigree? I am a pedigree nerd and when someone describes a Golden like you describe Babe, and she has that lovely look and makes it 14 years, well, I think it's worth knowing her background. My current girl turns 9 tomorrow, she is part of the Morris Animal Foundation Golden Retriever Lifetime Study, trying to gather more data on our dogs and looking for clues on health and longevity.

You and your wife sound like the ideal home for a Golden - please feel free to pm me if you are willing to travel/wait a big and want me to help you. I do not breed Goldens, I do have some friends though who might be helpful. Either way, I wish you healing, hold on tight to all your good memories. Babe was a lucky girl to be so beloved.
 

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I'm so sorry for your heartache over losing Babe. She definitely sounds like the ultimate Golden girl, and wow, did you all get lucky having her for 14 years - I know a lot of people who would give a limb to have 14 years with their most special Golden - a lot of people. Thank you for sharing her photos, she wasn't just beautiful on the inside, what a lovely girl. Is there any chance you have her pedigree? I am a pedigree nerd and when someone describes a Golden like you describe Babe, and she has that lovely look and makes it 14 years, well, I think it's worth knowing her background. My current girl turns 9 tomorrow, she is part of the Morris Animal Foundation Golden Retriever Lifetime Study, trying to gather more data on our dogs and looking for clues on health and longevity.

You and your wife sound like the ideal home for a Golden - please feel free to pm me if you are willing to travel/wait a big and want me to help you. I do not breed Goldens, I do have some friends though who might be helpful. Either way, I wish you healing, hold on tight to all your good memories. Babe was a lucky girl to be so beloved.
Hi Nolefan,

Babe was a gift to us from a fishing friend who is no longer with us. He had his girl bred with an outstanding sire from the Annapolis area. She "Augie" was small in stature, dark and he was the lighter "champagne" color with beautiful feathering. All the pups had the sire's coloring. Babe, when matured was well muscled and maintained a weight around 56-58 lbs up until just before she passed, at which time she was losing some mass due to her kidney failure. She never had a joint or health issue and could run like a scalded ape up until the last year of her life when she slowed a bit. I'm sorry I wish I had the lineage on her but it didn't matter much to us at the time.

In hindsight we wish we had pressed the owner about getting documentation, but he was a whimsical carefree sort of fellow who wasn't emersed in details. She was a gift so I felt I didn't need to jeopardize the relationship although we brought up the topic on occasion. I wonder how her siblings faired over the years ? one could only wonder.
 

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I can tell from these pictures that she was a full-fledged much loved family member and she knew it.
 
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