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Hi there! It's my first post!! I think it's OK to ask about specific breeders on here, if not, I'm sorry! I'm looking for a new Golden puppy and someone recommended this forum to get more information about the lines of different dogs and just more information in general. It really seems to be interesting so far!!!

The first breeder is My Buddy Goldens, www.mybuddygoldens.com. The puppy could be from the Mazda (My Buddy's Zoom-Zoom RN, CGC), Blue (BISS Ch. My Buddy's Boppity-Bop Blue Moon RN, WC, VC, CGC) litter or from the Tango (My Buddy's It Takes Two RN) and Hero (Summits Goldentrip In The Line of Duty) litter.

The other is Acadia Goldens (http://acadiakennels.homestead.com/GoldenRetrievers.html) and would probably be a Cree (U-CH Acadia's I've Got A Secret) Sisko (Blackpool Acadia Cosmic Cowboy) puppy.

Both breeders seem to really know their stuff, seem to have all clearances, and have come recommended by other breeders. I don't know what else to look for in the history. Any feedback is appreciated.

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I'm very new to this site and to goldens in general, but the only thing I'd say seems at all wrong w either of these breeder is that the Acadia one seems to charge more depending on colour. One thing I have read over and over on this site is that if a breeder tries to charge u more for "English creams" and other, that this should maybe b a warning sign to look elsewhere. Again, I am only just starting to educate myself on all of this myself, so hopefully other more experienced people on this forum can give u further help!
 

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If you look at the very top of the page, on the right hand side there are some lists of informational items. Under Miscellaneous, click on A Puppy Buyer's Fact Sheet, or click here:

http://www.goldenretrieverforum.com/showthread.php?t=22440

There is lots of good information about finding a good breeder in that thread.
 

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I've seen "My Buddy's" page before. It looks like they have things in order. The owner is a Veterinarian specialist at VA-MD RCVM. It looks like all clearances are done and available for you to look at. I like the Blue x Mazda litter out of the two that they have. Just my opinion.

Acadia seems to have the English Golden thing going on. They have different prices for "regular" goldens and "English" goldens. I checked clearances on both dogs- they seem to be there. I'm not sure about them though. Wait for other opinions!!



I would recommend speaking to someone from your local GR Club, too.
 

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I'm Patti from Acadia Goldens and I thought since you mentioned the difference in price between my American and English type Goldens, I'd explain my reason for this:
My prices are based on my expenses - sometimes I make money which goes right back into my dogs and sometimes I lose money. It has been a lot more expensive for me to breed and show my English type Goldens. Stud fees have usually been higher (the stud fee is usually the price of a puppy)and what I consider to be quality stud dogs (I'm picky) are not that easy to find. I have to do a lot more traveling, even as far as Canada. It has nothing to do with color. My English type puppies could be cream to the same color as my American type Goldens and they would all be the same price. Yes, some breeders will charge outrageous prices for creams - I've seen web sites from $3000 to $5900, and that's definitely a red flag! Check to see what reputable English type breeders are charging so you get a good idea. I have never met the people from My Buddy Goldens, but the Goldens I've seen of their's have been very nice.
 

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Hi,

Just wanted to let you know that I don't have the "English thing" going on. I just happen to really like the type. I watched an English type Golden named Jerry win at the GR National in Orlando, FL in 2002 and that is what started my interest in the English style Golden. Since then I've researched pedigrees and have been mentored by some very good English type breeders. I got my first English type Golden 3 + years ago and had my first litter of English type this past Oct - a very nice singleton (on my signature). If the difference in price between my American and English lines is what caused you to post what you did, my prices are very much in line (and sometimes a little less) than the other reputable breeders in my area and every Golden I breed/breed to has all their health clearances - hip, elbow, heart and current eyes.
 

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Hi,

Just wanted to let you know that I don't have the "English thing" going on. I just happen to really like the type. I watched an English type Golden named Jerry win at the GR National in Orlando, FL in 2002 and that is what started my interest in the English style Golden. Since then I've researched pedigrees and have been mentored by some very good English type breeders. I got my first English type Golden 3 + years ago and had my first litter of English type this past Oct - a very nice singleton (on my signature). If the difference in price between my American and English lines is what caused you to post what you did, my prices are very much in line (and sometimes a little less) than the other reputable breeders in my area and every Golden I breed/breed to has all their health clearances - hip, elbow, heart and current eyes.
I apologize, I really didn't mean to offend. I guess I was just being colloquial and wasn't thinking about how it could be read as a negative statement. Glad to see your reasoning for pricing is not for color, but for sheer cost of breeding to quality studs and distance to do so.
 

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Hi Melissa,

You did not offend me at all. I've been in dogs a long time so I just wanted to clarify and help people learn. One thing we can all agree on is that you can never stop learning no matter how little or great your experience in dogs is! This is a great forum for doing that.

Have a Golden day!
 

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Patti--

First off, I think you have beautiful dogs.

I have absolutely no problem with the way you have structured your breeding/pricing--it makes perfect sense to me, and made sense before you responded to this post. In fact I think it is quite reasonable compared to many others I have found in looking around. Otherwise I would not have taken an interest in your dogs!

I have an English myself, and he is really an amazing dog--the white color is just a bonus--they just seem to have a little something special in their expressiveness. And they always look like pups since they never get grey in the face either (like my dark goldie)!

I was just wanting to hear if anybody on the forum had had any experience/interactions/offspring from you or the other breeder I mentioned--had no intention of anyone getting called on the carpet for anything. Have 2 breeders that look interesting to me, have great lines, and have covered all their clearance bases--what's not to like?!

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Thank you for the complements. I understand you were just looking for information. I just wanted to clarify a couple of things that had been posted - nothing to do with your original post. Unfortunately, their are breeders who are taking advantage of the popularity of the English creams and I know how difficult it can be to find good breeders - it was hard for me when I became interested in moving toward the English type, even though I had been in Goldens for a while. I know one thing that is difficult for most people, myself included, is that when they decide they want to do something they don't want to wait. Great lines and generations of health clearances are wonderful, but it's also important to develop relationships with breeders so that you can decide on one you are comfortable with and they are comfortable with you. That can take some time, but I've found it's well worth it.
 

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I'm new to the show dog world and my first experience was trying to work with Leeah Chew of My Buddy Goldens (www.mybuddygoldens.com). Needless to say she's refusing to return my $500 deposit, so I'd say BUYER BEWARE and really know what you're getting into prior to sending her any money. No contract's were ever signed and still she refuses to return my deposit. I requested the deposit back as after three months of interaction (or lack of) with her I realized the relationship was not collaborative especially when having to enter into a longer term co-ownership agreement with her prior to receiving your pup. She may have nice dogs, but she was easily disappointed by things I wanted to do with my dog in my household. I told her we were thinking about getting two pups, one from her and one from another breeder. Leeah's response to that was she was 'very disappointed' by my family's plans and that I had to choose which pup I was going to get (couldn't have both). Promised pictures and sonograms were never sent. When it came to which pup was to ultimately be ours....we were never informed, no email no pictures, nothing. Also, she comes off as being a bit arrogant for someone new to the show scene or if your show plans don't include Westminster. She'll also be sure to remind you that she has the upcoming No. 1 dog in the country. That's nice, but something that doesn't need to be shoved in my face.

Again, my recommendation regarding Leah Chew and My Buddy Golden's is BUYER BEWARE. My family and especially my 10 year old daughter were very disappointed with her.
 

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I'm new to the show dog world and my first experience was trying to work with Leeah Chew of My Buddy Goldens (www.mybuddygoldens.com). Needless to say she's refusing to return my $500 deposit, so I'd say BUYER BEWARE and really know what you're getting into prior to sending her any money. No contract's were ever signed and still she refuses to return my deposit. I requested the deposit back as after three months of interaction (or lack of) with her I realized the relationship was not collaborative especially when having to enter into a longer term co-ownership agreement with her prior to receiving your pup. She may have nice dogs, but she was easily disappointed by things I wanted to do with my dog in my household. I told her we were thinking about getting two pups, one from her and one from another breeder. Leeah's response to that was she was 'very disappointed' by my family's plans and that I had to choose which pup I was going to get (couldn't have both). Promised pictures and sonograms were never sent. When it came to which pup was to ultimately be ours....we were never informed, no email no pictures, nothing. Also, she comes off as being a bit arrogant for someone new to the show scene or if your show plans don't include Westminster. She'll also be sure to remind you that she has the upcoming No. 1 dog in the country. That's nice, but something that doesn't need to be shoved in my face.

Again, my recommendation regarding Leah Chew and My Buddy Golden's is BUYER BEWARE. My family and especially my 10 year old daughter were very disappointed with her.
I can kind of understand her unwillingness to sell you a pup, though. She may have thought you were planning on breeding the two puppies together, which is usually a pretty big no-no with most reputable breeders. Not that that was your plan, but I can understand that many breeders may suspect that.

She could have been more upfront with you and just told you point blank she wasn't going to sell you a puppy rather than just ignoring you, I suppose.
 

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MY experience with Leeah has been a very positive one. She worked hard to make sure I was able to abide to her contract and made some good suggestions about picking a puppy that was going to fit my needs. I'm sure she does expect her show puppies to go as far as they can, even as far as Westminster. If that isn't in your plans, as it wasn't in mine, perhaps a show pup isn't for you, not that her other pups couldn't finish. She is quite busy in her life and I understand that when I don't get a response from her right away, but I always get a response.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but I don't think that's typical Leeah.
 

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I'm new to the show dog world and my first experience was trying to work with Leeah Chew of My Buddy Goldens (www.mybuddygoldens.com). Needless to say she's refusing to return my $500 deposit, so I'd say BUYER BEWARE and really know what you're getting into prior to sending her any money. No contract's were ever signed and still she refuses to return my deposit. I requested the deposit back as after three months of interaction (or lack of) with her I realized the relationship was not collaborative especially when having to enter into a longer term co-ownership agreement with her prior to receiving your pup. She may have nice dogs, but she was easily disappointed by things I wanted to do with my dog in my household. I told her we were thinking about getting two pups, one from her and one from another breeder. Leeah's response to that was she was 'very disappointed' by my family's plans and that I had to choose which pup I was going to get (couldn't have both). Promised pictures and sonograms were never sent. When it came to which pup was to ultimately be ours....we were never informed, no email no pictures, nothing. Also, she comes off as being a bit arrogant for someone new to the show scene or if your show plans don't include Westminster. She'll also be sure to remind you that she has the upcoming No. 1 dog in the country. That's nice, but something that doesn't need to be shoved in my face.

Again, my recommendation regarding Leah Chew and My Buddy Golden's is BUYER BEWARE. My family and especially my 10 year old daughter were very disappointed with her.
I'm sorry that you had a bad interaction with a breeder. I was surprised to read your review, because I have heard nothing but glowing things about My Buddy Goldens. I do understand why a breeder would not want to sell you a puppy if you planned on having two puppies at one time. Many breeders have this policy, because it is simply extremely difficult to raise and train two puppies at once. Separating the puppies by about 10 months or more is a good alternative. Also, saying you want two puppies could make a breeder thing you plan on breeding those two, and that is a terrible way to start a foundation, and many breeders would be reluctant to sell puppies into that situation.

Just curious, is this your website? http://dogbreedersreview.com/main/
 

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I'm sorry that you had a bad interaction with a breeder. I was surprised to read your review, because I have heard nothing but glowing things about My Buddy Goldens. I do understand why a breeder would not want to sell you a puppy if you planned on having two puppies at one time. Many breeders have this policy, because it is simply extremely difficult to raise and train two puppies at once. Separating the puppies by about 10 months or more is a good alternative. Also, saying you want two puppies could make a breeder thing you plan on breeding those two, and that is a terrible way to start a foundation, and many breeders would be reluctant to sell puppies into that situation.

Just curious, is this your website? http://dogbreedersreview.com/main/
Yes, that is his website :uhoh:. I just purchased a male puppy from Leeah and I have nothing but wonderful things to say about her. It was an uncomplicated transaction and I received a gorgeous, healthy, confident boy. I was told up front if I put a deposit down she expects me to go through with the purchase...as it should be. Maybe there is more to the story than what was posted?
 

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Yes, that is his website :uhoh:. I just purchased a male puppy from Leeah and I have nothing but wonderful things to say about her. It was an uncomplicated transaction and I received a gorgeous, healthy, confident boy. I was told up front if I put a deposit down she expects me to go through with the purchase...as it should be. Maybe there is more to the story than what was posted?
That's exactly what I was thinking. I've met one My Buddy golden and his owner raved about Leah.

Creating a website because you're upset you didn't get a puppy is very, very, very low. And it's unfair to someone who worked so long to have a great breeding program. It's hard enough for the good breeders to stand out from the bad when pet owners are looking for a puppy, without a one sided website created about them. I'm sure there is more to the story, but I just think that is so inappropriate. :(

A lot of breeders have the policy that deposits are non-refundable, because that shows a commitment to purchasing. I would be shocked if this was not said upfront, as the poster claims.
 

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I have recently spoken with Leah also and I felt she was very upfront about everything. She was very nice and very helpful. Sounds like someone trying to cause problems.
 

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I'd also like to say I've spoken to Leeah multiple times and only have good things to say about her and her program. She truly seems to care about her dogs, and the breed in general.
 

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Jon ("Shiningdawn?") - Some here might like to give you the benefit of the doubt, as you're "new to the show dog world", but you've destroyed your own credibility in the way you've handled this situation.

I know of few grown men who would resort to establishing a web site in the attempt to embarrass or discredit someone they have had a business dispute with. It is especially pertinent that in your website, you don't identify yourself, and you don't allow any outside comments.

On this same website, you question the use of deposits and non-negotiable contracts. You are the very reason a breeder would require them. You misrepresented yourself and your intentions from the beginning. You tried to change the terms of an agreement at the twelfth hour, and backed out of the agreement entirely when you couldn't bully your way through. Then, when you rightfully lost your deposit, you began an attempt to get even by setting up a childish web page and posting on this site.

You mention the need to obtain and check references. Leeah has literally hundreds of people in the golden retriever community, including myself, that will gladly attest to her ethics - not to mention her hard work and dedication to improving the breed (some have posted before me). She is rightfully proud of her accomplishments - hell, I'm proud of her accomplishments. Perhaps it is you that needs to quit hiding behind monikers like "shiningdawn" and supply us with references of your own. From what I've seen so far I can't believe you'd have many.

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We got Hazel (Blue & Mazda pup) from Leeah and I can say nothing but good things about Leeah. She was very responsive, answered all of our questions and concerns and keeps in touch with us. She breeds wonderful dogs that are super smart and super sweet. Hazel and I are going for our Rally Advanced title next month and we will be trying to show her at some point.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience but we are extremely happy with Hazel and with Leeah.
Good luck in your pursuit of a puppy.
 
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