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I have missed logging my training & general thoughts so while I will try not to get too specific, I thought I might start logging again.

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We picked up 1 Novice Jumpers leg and 1 Novice FAST leg today. Had a couple off courses in a row in Novice Standard today - I way under estimated how much extension and forward momentum the broad jump gives Mr. R.

I thought this was a very nicely designed Novice Standard course and loved the double tunnel ending.

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Congrats again :) I just wanted to add ....

Thanks so much for posting this course :) I know I will be setting up at least segments from it - it has been several years since I walked into an agility ring, and having the current courses truly helps :)
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Exactly :)

The Cmd Disc position changes, should you choose to teach all variations, can be taught in other contexts such as conditioning exercises.

One thing I will suggest, if you plan to show in Open B, BJ first order should definitely be practiced.
The BJ is getting more work too. It’s one of the things that broke. Our newest thing is anticipating signals. Something I never dreamed of being an issue because he was always so painfully slow on them. Been choosing my battles carefully. If I’m working on a specific component and he does something else small, I let it go. That drives one of my friends crazy. Not sure where we started getting his bounciness back. It’s been a long road getting it. Since his incident when he was 1 1/2-2 years old.
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May 23

- AM Training (coolish, may mid 50's) New place for ALL of us

I had fasting bloodwork this morning and decided to load the dogs up :) This is a new location for Quest and of course I could not find it (ends up it is between a Michael's and a HomeGoods without signage at the lot entrances). Anyway so of course I am not calm & collected so closer to how I am at trials LOL. After my blood draw I quickly downed a protein shake and started the sessions (Quest has closed the usual office I go to and may have closed others - anyway there was a steady stream of vehicle & foot traffic so more activity than I planned on

Aedan: hyper, focused and anticipating LOL We worked bounce starts, heeling, signals (when I turned to face him he anticipated the drop cue so reset ), MSFE and games. Overall I liked the session since 1) I like when things happen in training rather than trials 2) It was great to see him so bouncy & joyous

Finch: Very nice once we practiced handler activation (HA) in heeling, Cmd Disc, MSFE etc. I did need to halt the session mid stream as a huge street sweeper came within 6 feet of where we were on the sidewalk and was moving slowly - Finch did react by avoidance so we just acclimated until he was probably 20 feet further away. She quickly bounced back into working mode with some pretty heeling -- we ended on that note -- oh, no halts during the sessions so I made sure to stop with my legs in stride position - I did not want to fuss with sits I was working on willingness & focus.

Tonight I have an in person class: Aedan will most likely be the dog who goes :)

When I get home I currently plan to watch a Zoom webinar 'Setting Realistic Expectations' ; it is human body building based but i am sure I can apply it not only to my workouts but to dog training as well. BTW I am not a body builder per se but I love this woman's workout challenges....

Update:
Aedan was the dog for class tonight :) We started with run thrus - either Utility or Open, so I ran Aedan through Utility from start to finish with his oh so very favorite doggle ball as rewards :) He did well - of note: these were kind-of-run-thrus since I used his doggle ball freely and I don't recall finishing a single time, and had very few actual fronts. Then some group heeling, group Cmd Disc or Signals, group DB retrieves - poor Aedan had a dog try to steal his DB - I do wish that handler would control her dog but that may be beyond her -- she just laughs and says 'naughty naughty' -- some day one of her dogs will probably get hurt stealing from another dog; after her dog tried to steal Aedan's DB (quick feet blocked her access) she tried going down the line for other dog's dumbbells while the handler was like 'naughty naughty, isn't she naughty?' and the instructor was trying to get the handler to control her dog.

I just wrapped up the webinar about setting realistic goals/expectations and now it's time to head to bed ... night all :) Hope you all had training fun today
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The BJ is getting more work too. It’s one of the things that broke. Our newest thing is anticipating signals. Something I never dreamed of being an issue because he was always so painfully slow on them. Been choosing my battles carefully. If I’m working on a specific component and he does something else small, I let it go. That drives one of my friends crazy. Not sure where we started getting his bounciness back. It’s been a long road getting it. Since his incident when he was 1 1/2-2 years old.
I usually work all the small stuff in separate sessions or use aids like a front/finish platform even my hands or fingers as aids.

Interesting, Aedan just anticipated his drop signal in a new location this morning (separate post). He's never been slow at them but this morning did surprise me to be honest -- I will add more rewarding in place to that training exercise (and/or cuing 'wait' before I turn) and more games into his waiting in place (like turning to face & dancing, turning & walking back , walking backwards to him and releasing and/or rewarding, throwing a reward back either before or after turning etc More fun for both of us

Bounciness matters - I work hard for it and block out people who think everything must be perfection especially if they've never had a dog who tries so hard to please they can loose that bounce.
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I usually work all the small stuff in separate sessions or use aids like a front/finish platform even my hands or fingers as aids.

Interesting, Aedan just anticipated his drop signal in a new location this morning (separate post). He's never been slow at them but this morning did surprise me to be honest -- I will add more rewarding in place to that training exercise (and/or cuing 'wait' before I turn) and more games into his waiting in place (like turning to face & dancing, turning & walking back , walking backwards to him and releasing and/or rewarding, throwing a reward back either before or after turning etc More fun for both of us

Bounciness matters - I work hard for it and block out people who think everything must be perfection especially if they've never had a dog who tries so hard to please they can loose that bounce.
For now, I've really only been able to get in a good session at my dog club. I have to drag my granddaughter along if I want to go train at a store or the park. Funny you mention the dancing. When I had Winx in agility class, the instructor wanted everyone to work on start line stays. Winx was the only dog that would stay while the handler danced around. I even threw toys and treats. She just kind of looked around like "Mom! Stop! You're embarrassing me!"

I feel like rally has been very helpful in a couple of ways. It has built confidence in the ring and since many of the exercises are the foundations of training harder skills, it has strengthened some of his skills.

Bounciness is so important to me! He was always happy and bouncy. Then he was attacked. While he was always happy to work with me, he had lost the bounce. I prefer happy and bouncy over perfection. Like I was told by one of my favorite OTCH handlers. Don't even think about the OTCH. Work on getting good enough to earn your OM points. The OTCH will happen. Since then, Pilot earned his first OM points..
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Worked U-turns on a plank tonight. I did do this often enough when he was a puppy. Puppy version- plank was on the ground and the last time practiced he was probably 10 months old.

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I have the same strategy if I'm struggling with a particular exercise: ultra-short, upbeat sessions, at least once a day, preferably two or three times a day. The only thing that bothered me a little was that you told Finch the first time, when she cut the corner, was not good enough, but I wondered how she knew what exactly wasn't good enough. She stayed on stay, went on jump, cleared the jump and came back to you. How does she know what her mistake was? Since she didn't cut the corner the second time, maybe she's figuring it out by trial and error.

I use a pad of artificial turf to define the "no-landing" zone. I wouldn't want the no-landing pad to be something that might hurt their paws and make them worried about jumping. I want it to be something that feels different than the grass.

A video of a couple of jumps with my experienced dog, Pinyon. I rarely work on the broad jump with him anymore, but when I do, I always put the no-landing pad down in case he starts "drifting". I also like to do the jump with me standing close to him to encourage him to look forward and not at me. With Pinyon, I do a mostly formal version, the way I'd do it in the ring: giving the BJ pre-cue (in my case, saying "broad jump" and doing a slight crouch and point) and speaking the judge's commands and the responses I'd give in the ring.


A video of Hawthorn, who hasn't been shown in Open yet. He is 2 years old. Sorry, this is a too-long video, but I wanted to show the sequence of increasing level of difficulty. We haven't worked on the BJ for a couple of months, so I expected he would touch the "no-landing" zone. To my surprise, he did not. Since he is still learning, I started by putting a cone on the no-landing pad and pointing to it and saying "leave-it" to remind him it's there. We did three reps with the cone, each with me moving closer and closer to him. Then, I took the cone away and did three more reps, each harder. With him, he gets lured into the setup position and rewarded for the setup to keep his attitude up and to avoid having to mix in lessons about setting up.

Thank you for posting these videos. Now I can see what you mean by your no landing zone and how you use it. Cool. I also enjoyed listening to you encourage your dogs.
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I need to remember to post.

We worked on heeling yesterday and my neighbor happened to be outside while I was working on Logan’s off leash heeling. I had him out in the street and she had her little dog (some kind of fluffy 10lb dog — maybe a Shih-Poo — named Mocha. Mocha is a funny little thing and bouncy. Logan did so well. My neighbor stood there and watched us while we were doing normal, fast, slow, about turns and halts. I was proud of Logan for paying them no attention and even got an “Impressive!“ from the neighbor. Lol

We worked on Figure 8s since my trainer thought he was crowding me a bit, so I got him out some for that fairly easily. We will keep practicing.

I’m trying to figure out how to get Logan to move faster on his left finishes. 😬 After watching the playfulness in the training video above, it may be me. I might be boring Logan. I will try to animate myself more and be more playful. I do think we are making some progress with the trotting instead of pacing training.

Today we went to field training. That’s not for this thread, but Logan did so well on a water triple. He loves it so much. He also got to play with a Golden Retriever named Meg after field training, which never happens, and he was quite the show off trying to impress her. He even rolled down a hill for her sideways like a kid would do. Lol

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We did conf class today, just Jovi. Just a warm up refresher type thing because we've been all obedience since last Nov. ;)

Then came home and took advantage of the sunset lingering a little longer today and temps being almost 20 degrees cooler than earlier today and did very quick heeling and position changes, dor practice.
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Pilot worked on some broad jumps today. Then I came home and got all the entries for the trial entered with confirmations sent out. After things in the neighborhood settled…I swear every police car, ambulance, and fire truck in the county had been called….I worked on grooming Winx.
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Pilot worked on some broad jumps today. Then I came home and got all the entries for the trial entered with confirmations sent out. After things in the neighborhood settled…I swear every police car, ambulance, and fire truck in the county had been called….I worked on grooming Winx.
Hope all is settled in the neighborhood now ...
Hope all is settled in the neighborhood now ...
It is! It was a domestic issue a couple of streets over. Son stabbed his parents. Last I heard, dad is serious but alive, mom was going to be okay.
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Logan had yesterday off.

I took him to our tennis courts today to train. The neighborhood landscaping crew was up there and working all around the courts and even stood at the fence to watch, so I appreciated the distractions. One of them told me Logan was the most beautiful and well behaved Golden he has ever seen. Well, I had cheese (haha) and Logan was being a good boy and not participating in any of his shenanigans. Haha

I began with treat tosses and calling him to fronts about five times. He did well.

Since we are doing a BN leg tomorrow in Fletcher, NC — just for practice and exposure — I worked on a heeling pattern similar to what we would have in BN. Logan did great. I did a sit stay walk around, figure eights and some recalls to front.

Then we worked on heeling in circles one way and then the other. He’s being bouncier with his heeling, so that’s good, and his about turns are getting tighter.

We worked on our between exercises routine to get him to pay attention to me even when we are moving between exercises. He likes it because it’s playful.

Other than that, we did a little off leash heeling.

We are only doing one leg in Fletcher because we are actually heading to Cashiers, NC with family for Memorial Day weekend. Fletcher is only an hour away, so I figured it would be good to stop by and at least do one leg. I only have Friday where I’m free and then the grands and friends arrive

I hope y’all have a wonderful Memorial Day weekend!
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Mine had yesterday off too! last night was the last evening I had with my granddaughter living with us. I took her to Subway. (She got to choose) Then we went to the park and got ice cream. It's truly a bittersweet day. After 6 years, she's moving back in with her mom! Tonight is a "class" night. I'll go work with a beginner and her sheltie for a half hour, then I'll train for a bit.

This weekend will be busy! Winx will be getting a bath and trimmed up tomorrow night. I'm showing her in Veteran's Sweepstakes Saturday and Sunday. Working the eye clinic both days. (I am now an expert at giving eye drops to dogs! LOL) Both of my dogs will have their eyes tested as well. Monday, Pilot is entered in a trial. He will be doing a RACH leg run in the morning and a UDX leg run in the afternoon. Yup....5 runs in a day! He will have plenty of rest time in between rally and obedience. For what it's worth....I absolutely despise the drive to this particular venue, so it has to be worth the drive to enter.
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Grins, my dogs had yesterday off as well :)
May 25 Training

7:15am : sessions in the backyard, wet grass, 45 degrees and sunny . Distractions included my still being in my spinning wear paired with clunky yard boots LOL



Aedan: Spins, twists, setups (positioning focus), setups with focus and head up, first step(s), signals with break outs after varying portions, right turns work, ending with roughing up play

Finch: Spins, twists, setup (positioning focus then with upward focus & active state), heeling with some right turn focus, catch up to heel games. With Finch I ended the session by releasing her to run to the back door where the treats wait on top of the dryer for back-into-the-house – multiple rewards .


Today is Finch’s birthday (7 years old) so I may not get any more training in – Paul Finch & Aedan are all off on an extended nature hike and Finch usually gets quite dirty on those; I am grateful I got in a brief session this morning and hope to do something tonight as well. My noon training window has closed – the hikes are actually a higher priority for them anyway since its part of being a ‘just a dog’ and gives them new sights & activities LOL

I called Rau this morning and confirmed that both Aedan (UA) and Finch (OA) get to try for more Qs in a few weeks at Taconic in the AM trials all 3 days and I don’t need to cancel my vacation days for Thu & Fri. (Obedience & Rally only shows). Obedience trials in my area have been filling quickly so each time we make it in, I feel kind of like I won the lottery!!

Evening:

Finch got to do her broad jump for kibble , tomorrow my plan is to start building the back chain of the broad jump again working my way to the ring exit during the course of this weekend and next week. I can't bring her food bowl into the ring, but I can build her expectation that a big rewards will be coming shortly after that broad jump!! She will also see training aids coming in & out of the picture to assist her not cutting the corner.

I got to watch No re-Inforcement, No Problem Webinar (Petra Ford) – the lecture portion. I will watch the feedback section after practicing a few things detailed out in the webinar.

Just finished assembling the new jump sets and will let them 'cure' on the front deck.
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I’ve had so many things to train for this month. Eva (Golden Retriever), is entered in Novice Scent Work this weekend and Rally Advanced next weekend. Honey (Brittany) is entered in Advanced and Excellent Scent Work this weekend and UD and Open Obedience next weekend.
Eva gained her RN a few weeks ago at just 12 months old so I’ve been busy teaching her the new Rally stations... mostly pivot turns and going from heel to front without me stepping back. I teach heeling off-leash, so that’s not new for her.
Eva’s suddenly matured out of squirmy, jelly-legged puppy greetings, which is good. (I can now start teaching stand-for-examination, yay!) Not so good was her new tendency to lunge forward in exuberant greeting! Fixing that is an urgent task which I’ll be con to work on during downtime this weekend.
Honey titled in UD last year but then her Seek Back fell apart. Seek back is a UD exercise here in which the judge calls a heeling pattern during which he/she drops an article on the track, then the competitor sends the dog to find the article. Our trial rings are quite large and usually outside, and the exercise varies in difficulty depending on the length of the grass and the placement of the article. Honey developed a habit of peeing after she picked up the article, but only in competition and only under certain judges… usually men. I made the mistake of correcting her for what is almost certainly a stress behaviour and her seek back completely fell apart. So I went back to the basics of training, asking men to place the article.
For scent work, I’ve been working on longer alerts with Eva and on distraction training and high hides with Honey. I usually end up running Eva on Honey’s searches, which means that Eva is actually training at Excellent level.
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Happy Birthday Finch!

I set up 1-9 of the below course in my backyard. I need to work on timely turn cues when it is jump, then turn away from off course tunnel, and also working on weaves. The judge for this course is my judge this weekend, also why I picked this one. About 50% failure rate getting him to turn, whether it was a rear or a pull.



I got this course from the Facebook group called “AKC Agility Course Maps”. Sharing in case other agility people need some course design inspiration. Usually every agility trial’s maps across the country gets uploaded every weekend.
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Happy Birthday Finch!

I set up 1-9 of the below course in my backyard. I need to work on timely turn cues when it is jump, then turn away from off course tunnel, and also working on weaves. The judge for this course is my judge this weekend, also why I picked this one. About 50% failure rate getting him to turn, whether it was a rear or a pull.

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I got this course from the Facebook group called “AKC Agility Course Maps”. Sharing in case other agility people need some course design inspiration. Usually every agility trial’s maps across the country gets uploaded every weekend.
Thanks -- Finch had a good time today.

So, it has been awhile since I have run agility and that looks like a fun yet challenging course .. I might set it up for Aedan LOL I think I'd run the opening from the -35 line using verbal Outs & Ins, start hanging back after tunnel #6 and before jump #7, chip-chip to bleed off speed (probably old terminology but basically checking speed with my motion and kind of a finger pointing gesture to start slowing down for a 'something) and once I have my dog's head handle the turn to #8 and the weave entry with my dog on the right, FC after the weaves and let my dog have their head for the tunnel through the closing, creating some lateral distance starting between 12 & 13 as we head towards #14 to avoid what looks like an invitation to fly through the gate when your dog is moving at full speed LOL.

I might just try this -- thank you for posting
Grins, my dogs had yesterday off as well :)
May 25 Training

7:15am : sessions in the backyard, wet grass, 45 degrees and sunny . Distractions included my still being in my spinning wear paired with clunky yard boots LOL



Aedan: Spins, twists, setups (positioning focus), setups with focus and head up, first step(s), signals with break outs after varying portions, right turns work, ending with roughing up play

Finch: Spins, twists, setup (positioning focus then with upward focus & active state), heeling with some right turn focus, catch up to heel games. With Finch I ended the session by releasing her to run to the back door where the treats wait on top of the dryer for back-into-the-house – multiple rewards .


Today is Finch’s birthday (7 years old) so I may not get any more training in – Paul Finch & Aedan are all off on an extended nature hike and Finch usually gets quite dirty on those; I am grateful I got in a brief session this morning and hope to do something tonight as well. My noon training window has closed – the hikes are actually a higher priority for them anyway since its part of being a ‘just a dog’ and gives them new sights & activities LOL

I called Rau this morning and confirmed that both Aedan (UA) and Finch (OA) get to try for more Qs in a few weeks at Taconic in the AM trials all 3 days and I don’t need to cancel my vacation days for Thu & Fri. (Obedience & Rally only shows). Obedience trials in my area have been filling quickly so each time we make it in, I feel kind of like I won the lottery!!

Evening:

Finch got to do her broad jump for kibble , tomorrow my plan is to start building the back chain of the broad jump again working my way to the ring exit during the course of this weekend and next week. I can't bring her food bowl into the ring, but I can build her expectation that a big rewards will be coming shortly after that broad jump!! She will also see training aids coming in & out of the picture to assist her not cutting the corner.

I got to watch No re-Inforcement, No Problem Webinar (Petra Ford) – the lecture portion. I will watch the feedback section after practicing a few things detailed out in the webinar.

Just finished assembling the new jump sets and will let them 'cure' on the front deck.
Happy birthday to Finch! 🥳
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Settled in for the night after training. We had a good session. Winx worked on some heeling and I worked on teaching her to back up. We did some command discrimination. She thinks it’s so fun and jumps up whenever she can! I ran Pilot through and Open and Utility run. He did well. The biggest thing in practice is his arc on go outs. I thinks he’s starting to figure it out though. Instead of the running straight towards his arc, he ran past the jumps, them arced. I keep being told that I need to break him of it, but he’s weird. His arc doesn’t get worse at a trial, it disappears! I obviously don’t want him to ever do it, and we work on it but I don’t correct him much. I just basically say let’s try again.
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