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May 2023 Training

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I have missed logging my training & general thoughts so while I will try not to get too specific, I thought I might start logging again.

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May 19 2023
Aedan has 1 Utility A Q, with a 1st place score of 197.5 from this month
Finch is entered along with Aedan next month in a few Obedience trials as she starts her CDX work
Wren may or may not be entered in some upcoming trials for either Rally Advanced or possibly BN

Wren is still at her co-owners/breeders while in season, there is a possibility she will be bred, we just haven’t decided on who yet – a few boys are off at distant Hunt Tests, one boy had a low sperm count last test, one is a larger boy & Wren is a larger girl so we don’t know if we want to go there etc. Her hips came back as Excellent and she has all her clearances at this point. There aren’t any boys that are making us say ‘Wow’ other than the possibilities above so we may wait this season out since next season the HT boys should be home.

At lunch Aedan & Finch went to __ Plaza with me for some training. It is in the 60s and cloudy. We stuck to the _ and food court areas. No jumping or send aways as it was fairly crowded with many different ethnicities and abilities among the people. Some loud cars and a few scooter type vehicles.

Aedan had a brief HA, high hand touches, spin & twist warmup and we headed towards ____ sidewalk (with merchandise on the sidewalk). We worked heeling, signals, MSFE and some heeling games in and around the sidewalks and the food court area as busloads of people (literally, they parked in a back lot and came through the food court towards the stores) came through – disabled and challenged people with their escorts. Happy people, serious people, preoccupied people, people smiling at the sight of the dogs being trained and thus watching them etc. Aedan handled it all very well and maintained a steady & prancey focus. Of note, there were no children or strollers although they were at a park yesterday where there were plenty of both.

Finch – hmmm – when we were first starting acclimation a gentleman stopped and asked if he could pet her. Finch was none too sure so I put her in a sit and the man kneeled down. He was carrying a plastic grocery bag full of beer & soda cans and was holding half of an unlit cigarette in one hand. Finch was not sure especially since we work hard at the house on ‘no exploring trash containers’, but she allowed the man to gently pet & croon to her as we chatted about the dog he wanted to get at the dog pound soon. Then we moved on and Finch did much so well!! I was proud of her. But!! The litter was getting her on her recalls (we worked heeling, Fig 8’s around the posts, Cmd Disc, games, etc where she was closer and/or focused but the ‘white stuff’ on the ground for recalls !!!). A few resets and we were good to go – big party and end of session 😊The training was after a hike with ____ and she was still just busting with energy.
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I'm waiting for sudafed to wipe out a migraine (apparently caused by pressure changes as storm rolls in) so I can go outside and put my guys through the daily routine (high jump, broad jump, signals, drops - if the dogs are good, we are just doing one and done each exercise).
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May 19 2023.
I have written elsewhere that Finchie's broad jump was broken at a trial a few weeks ago and she has been pulled from trials until we get the issue resolved. Here is a video of her entire session after work and before she was fed.

Finch building drive for her broad jump using her kibble supper (around the corner) - 1st attempt was just not good enough - while at this point I am looking for attitude over precision she does need to clear that jump .. she was quickly released to her waiting food on her 2nd jump when she cleared the jump; angled but cleared. - oh she wanted that food!! Both a huge distaction and a reward. LOL

Finchie's remedial broad jump training
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Teesson needs to learn that "go tunnel!" does not mean run across the TOP of it.
"Go teeter!" does not mean jump on it from the side at the pivot point and bang it down.
"Go jump!" means OVER it, not plow through it (it's only 4 inches high).
"Go A!" does not mean run up one side full speed and vault off from the top.
Our agility instructor commented this week, "he's really a lot of dog". It probably wasn't a compliment.
Teddy meanwhile needs to learn that not everyone exists for the sole purpose of loving him.
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Teesson needs to learn that "go tunnel!" does not mean run across the TOP of it.
"Go teeter!" does not mean jump on it from the side at the pivot point and bang it down.
"Go jump!" means OVER it, not plow through it (it's only 4 inches high).
"Go A!" does not mean run up one side full speed and vault off from the top.
Our agility instructor commented this week, "he's really a lot of dog". It probably wasn't a compliment.
Teddy meanwhile needs to learn that not everyone exists for the sole purpose of loving him.
Wren has started agility training -- it's a trip for sure :)
She is much more focused than her mama & grandmama (your description of your 2 bring back some fun time memories of Towhee LOL sure they're not related??)

I haven't started 'Go' with Wren yet --- should be interesting !! Her Go Outs are very fast and I don't imagine she'll slow down much when I introduce Go for agility!
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I’m happy to see you doing this again, Sharon. I don’t have much to log because Eevee just came in season, but I have missed these threads.
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My biggest focus right now is fine tuning the dogwalk and A-frame. I started an A-frame and Dogwalk only class.

I have noticed some balance issues when Mr. Rogers is on the dogwalk ascent ramp. My instructor picked up on it immediately even though it was slight in class.

His A-frame contact has been good, but his understanding of a 2o2o on it fell off of the track over the past 2 weeks.

Homework items I need to do next week:

  • U-turns on my teeter plank placed on milk crates (balance exercise)
  • Ring rentals 1-2x a week in between class to set up 2 bend grid cavaletti jumps (4”or 8”) on either side of the dogwalk and A-frame.
-Book a dog massager appointment to get feedback on if he is muscular enough/has enough core strength to have good balance
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I’m happy to see you doing this again, Sharon. I don’t have much to log because Eevee just came in season, but I have missed these threads.
Thanks.

I cannot wait for Wren to be back home from her mountain staycation. Another 10 to 14 days and she'll most likely be back training again. Her weave poles are waiting LOL She is also showing promise at being an awesome heeler.
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I like this!

Pilot - We have been working on getting his RACH legs out of the way. He only needs 2 more! Then he Master points which we can get while trialing in obedience. He has his UD. Working on UDX now and a possible trip to the classic. He has improved by leaps and bounds. (Meagan, you wouldn’t believe he’s the same dog I brought to the Matt Twitty seminar) His confidence level in Utility has gone way up and now I have a new problem! Instead of changing positions very slowly on Signals, he’s started anticipating. We are working on straightening out his arc on the go out. Which has translated into him moving at lightning speed. Weird thing about the arc….he only does it in training. He goes straight as an arrow in a trial! I’m beginning to think that it’s the way the ring is set up and how close everybody sits to it. His articles have been great, gloves are great. His attitude has been amazing lately! Actually got compliments on how happy he was at a trial last weekend! I dropped agility a few weeks ago with him to concentrate more on obedience. We are continuing with rally until he’s earned his RACH. I’m so excited to work with him more this summer!

Winx - Her highest obedience title is CDX. We’ve really not been working on much at the time since Pilot is my main focus. She will be beginning to learn grad open. In the next couple of months, she will be working on her UKC championship and some more Total Dog awards. I will probably enter her in a FastCAT or 2 as well. She’s 8 years old so we just plan to have fun. I’ve been doing the little bit of conformation because she seems to like it.
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My biggest focus right now is fine tuning the dogwalk and A-frame. I started an A-frame and Dogwalk only class.

I have noticed some balance issues when Mr. Rogers is on the dogwalk ascent ramp. My instructor picked up on it immediately even though it was slight in class.

His A-frame contact has been good, but his understanding of a 2o2o on it fell off of the track over the past 2 weeks.

Homework items I need to do next week:

  • U-turns on my teeter plank placed on milk crates (balance exercise)
  • Ring rentals 1-2x a week in between class to set up 2 bend grid cavaletti jumps (4”or 8”) on either side of the dogwalk and A-frame.
-Book a dog massager appointment to get feedback on if he is muscular enough/has enough core strength to have good balance
A special course for A-Frame and Dogwalk work sounds great !
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Planned activities for training today and this upcoming week

My Sat morning drop in classes are on a break until after Memorial Day but I do have
  • A rental today followed by some online coursework
  • I am judging a match tomorrow and Aedan & Finch will get to have runs before/after the classes I am judging
  • Open/Utility in person class Tue night after work (multiple OTCh instructor)
  • Training party next Sunday morning with several friends also working on Open/Utility (where the bogeyman BJ is)
  • Also on Sunday, but at night, a private rental, one friend may join me

I may schedule a rental for Friday afternoon since I have Friday off from work for a DR appt in the morning , this will depend on the weather forecast as I am also working a lot with out and abouts to help confidence & focus (if the weather is good I will be training outside). Sat I don't have anything dog related booked but may schedule a rental .

Much of my training focus for this upcoming week will be building drive & duration between exercises, polishing front & finish work, and doing prep work for when Wren come homes and I start her back up (she currently has a gorgeous wait and send for her dumbbell, beautiful turn and come to front but her delivery needs work - a lot of work!; so I need to look at ideas on how to work that without impacting that drive). Planning for her next steps on her weaves (straighten the 2x2 sets more or start adding poles?, still working in a familar environment so maybe move the poles? etc) Finch was fumbling a bit picking up the gloves on a basketball court Thu, so I need to look at that.

I think I mentioned somewhere that I am training Wren's obedience differently that I have trained before, so a lot of learning & practicing with my handling & techniques is needed before I put the methods into place with Wren (Aedan & Finch are kind of my trial dogs for these new techniques when I think my part is 'not so bad' LOL) - they are more European style training methods and my handling needs work when applying. So that involves more time with my online courses and video reviews will be spent on that.

I normally only need to go into the office once a week, the mandate is 4-6 times a month, but this past week I had Mon-Wed off for a seminar so I need to make up the office day, meaning 2 days this upcoming week will be limited training as it is an hour commute each way plus I can't head out during lunch for off site trainings. I can, however, plug in earphones at lunch and do online courses & review.

Edited to bullet point focal points for the upcoming week:
  • Aedan: Turn & sends to the article piles (tight, fast & drivey)
  • Aedan: Right turns (tight and driving out of)
  • Aedan: Glove pivots & sends

  • Finch: Glove pickup
  • Finch: Focus work
  • Finch: Broad Jump
  • Finch: RIght turns (tight & driving out of)

  • Me: Right turn and about turn footwork & body alignment
  • Me: Set up pivot circles and practice walking in & out of
  • Me: Agility front cross footwork & moving out of (BadDogAgility/One Mind Dogs/ Daisy Peel)
  • Me: Watch that left hand/arm on article sends. practice, practice, practice


  • Wren: My handling & more online planning/learning
  • Wren: Review __ methods for dumbbell clean hold until cued to deliver while fronting close
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Today was day 1 of agility.

He crawled down the A-frame both times. I highly prefer it over leaping off, but it needs fixed. It’s just uncertainty of what is correct without the 2o2o target. I’m switching the 2o2o nose target to a clear plexiglass circle that will hopefully help because it’s less visible.

T2B - first time entered, first Q, 2and place and eight T2B points. I thought the course was easy but only 4 out of 14 24” dogs Qed.

Novice Jumpers - Beautiful run, but he head checked right before jump #6 and I thought he would pull off. I then added extra forward motion and sent him to an off course tunnel. Should have risked pulling him off the jump since we can have 2 refusals, but I personally hate it when dogs don’t trust a handler to actually mean it when they send them to obstacles and refuse to commit to jumps as a result.

Novice Standard - Q, second leg, first place. 1 refusal because I cued a turn too soon.

Back tomorrow for more! Only his second trial. I’m really impressed with how well he focuses in the ring as a green agility dog.

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I had a rental today with Aedan & Finch (they also went on errands and did some spatial pressure work this morning) and thought I would share working on a few of their issues.

As mentioned previously, we are working on Finch's broad jump so at our rental I added a guide board, but increased difficulty by having the BJ set up at an angle with the cones kind of close - since the cones were there I included her non-formal Figure 8
Finch working her Broad Jump and Figure 8 May 20 2023

Aedan will at times 'stick' on his send to his articles, and I sometimes use excess motion with my left arm/hand almost amounting to a double command - in this clip I did not like his front for the 1st article so decided to break off and set up a fronting platform since the fronts, while scorable, are not the primary portion of the exercise and he is sensitive enough that correction for the front might result in confusion about going -- bad handler (me) moved the platform and being a good dog, he came running in LOL - he quickly went back and got his article so all was good

Aedan working his articles May 20 2023

We also worked heeling (right & about turn focus), Go Outs, Directed jumping, Dumbbell retrieves on the flat and over the high jump, Handler Activation, spins, catch-ups, setups and other misc things

During one of my errands I snapped a few pics of Finchie in the area we were working for environmental pressure

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Today was day 1 of agility.

He crawled down the A-frame both times. I highly prefer it over leaping off, but it needs fixed. It’s just uncertainty of what is correct without the 2o2o target. I’m switching the 2o2o nose target to a clear plexiglass circle that will hopefully help because it’s less visible.

T2B - first time entered, first Q, 2and place and eight T2B points. I thought the course was easy but only 4 out of 14 24” dogs Qed.

Novice Jumpers - Beautiful run, but he head checked right before jump #6 and I thought he would pull off. I then added extra forward motion and sent him to an off course tunnel. Should have risked pulling him off the jump since we can have 2 refusals, but I personally hate it when dogs don’t trust a handler to actually mean it when they send them to obstacles and refuse to commit to jumps as a result.

Novice Standard - Q, second leg, first place. 1 refusal because I cued a turn too soon.

Back tomorrow for more! Only his second trial. I’m really impressed with how well he focuses in the ring as a green agility dog.
Congratulations on all that went well :) and thank you for sharing those course maps !

BTW: I also will let my dogs take a wrong course rather than do the call off thing so my dog always knows I have their back and never know if I sent them to the wrong obstacle :) Or at least I used to when I was actively trialing and don't see that changing if I enter trials in the future.
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No more novice for Mr. Glee. :)

He got his CD with 4 straight Q's, no NQ's and decent enough runs to catch the eyes of some big people out there. :) You can tell he's a show dog, because he had the FORGE going on today. But he's my very good boy.

Open.... maybe in fall? Depends on what happens with broad jump training.




Jovi managed to NQ twice.

1st run - perfect run except his open signals where he anticipated the sit on the judge's signal and I couldn't get my hand up fast enough to fool the judge.

2nd run - he clearly was very tired and could tell I was scrambling from one ring to the next. He Nq'd on the drop on recall. Interesting thing was that he had done a border collie scrunch when I signalled, which technically was a NQ right there. The judge was behind him and didn't know for sure what his front end was doing so she was going to give it to us, but he knew he was wrong and anticipated the call to front.

I'm calling both runs very expensive drop in matches. :) The judges were very kind and did allow me to praise my dog at different points after it was clear we had NQ'd. I wanted to leave the ring both times on a positive - which I did.

Off topic a little bit, but if you are in novice with your dog.... please be patient. Stress/upset goes down the leash. Saw a dog completely shut down today and it was pretty bad all around. You could tell the owner went from being upset to just shellshocked out there.

Also - the same handler did a pop correction on her dog which quite honest got a double take from me because I'd always heard or thought that a physical correction in the ring could get you kicked out of the ring. Especially if you appeared angry.

I was talking to novice A people before that and uh.... rule of thumb is you go out there when you know what you are doing, the dog knows what he's doing and.... it's supposed to be tackle each exercise and flow between. If dog is throwing you some challenges, you find positives. The dog is still learning - especially if they are first time in the ring ever. You have many trials ahead to enter and try again - and get better each time. <B
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No more novice for Mr. Glee. :)

He got his CD with 4 straight Q's, no NQ's and decent enough runs to catch the eyes of some big people out there. :) You can tell he's a show dog, because he had the FORGE going on today. But he's my very good boy.

Open.... maybe in fall? Depends on what happens with broad jump training.


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Jovi managed to NQ twice.

1st run - perfect run except his open signals where he anticipated the sit on the judge's signal and I couldn't get my hand up fast enough to fool the judge.

2nd run - he clearly was very tired and could tell I was scrambling from one ring to the next. He Nq'd on the drop on recall. Interesting thing was that he had done a border collie scrunch when I signalled, which technically was a NQ right there. The judge was behind him and didn't know for sure what his front end was doing so she was going to give it to us, but he knew he was wrong and anticipated the call to front.

I'm calling both runs very expensive drop in matches. :) The judges were very kind and did allow me to praise my dog at different points after it was clear we had NQ'd. I wanted to leave the ring both times on a positive - which I did.

Off topic a little bit, but if you are in novice with your dog.... please be patient. Stress/upset goes down the leash. Saw a dog completely shut down today and it was pretty bad all around. You could tell the owner went from being upset to just shellshocked out there.

Also - the same handler did a pop correction on her dog which quite honest got a double take from me because I'd always heard or thought that a physical correction in the ring could get you kicked out of the ring. Especially if you appeared angry.

I was talking to novice A people before that and uh.... rule of thumb is you go out there when you know what you are doing, the dog knows what he's doing and.... it's supposed to be tackle each exercise and flow between. If dog is throwing you some challenges, you find positives. The dog is still learning - especially if they are first time in the ring ever. You have many trials ahead to enter and try again - and get better each time. <B
Congratulations on the CD -

Open can be an adventure. It seems so reasonable on the surface and then BAM!! all kinds of things can happen in the ring.
Open can be an adventure. It seems so reasonable on the surface and then BAM!! all kinds of things can happen in the ring.
So many INTERESTING ways to NQ.... ! :D 🤣 🤣 🤣
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No more novice for Mr. Glee. :)

He got his CD with 4 straight Q's, no NQ's and decent enough runs to catch the eyes of some big people out there. :) You can tell he's a show dog, because he had the FORGE going on today. But he's my very good boy.

Open.... maybe in fall? Depends on what happens with broad jump training.


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Jovi managed to NQ twice.

1st run - perfect run except his open signals where he anticipated the sit on the judge's signal and I couldn't get my hand up fast enough to fool the judge.

2nd run - he clearly was very tired and could tell I was scrambling from one ring to the next. He Nq'd on the drop on recall. Interesting thing was that he had done a border collie scrunch when I signalled, which technically was a NQ right there. The judge was behind him and didn't know for sure what his front end was doing so she was going to give it to us, but he knew he was wrong and anticipated the call to front.

I'm calling both runs very expensive drop in matches. :) The judges were very kind and did allow me to praise my dog at different points after it was clear we had NQ'd. I wanted to leave the ring both times on a positive - which I did.

Off topic a little bit, but if you are in novice with your dog.... please be patient. Stress/upset goes down the leash. Saw a dog completely shut down today and it was pretty bad all around. You could tell the owner went from being upset to just shellshocked out there.

Also - the same handler did a pop correction on her dog which quite honest got a double take from me because I'd always heard or thought that a physical correction in the ring could get you kicked out of the ring. Especially if you appeared angry.

I was talking to novice A people before that and uh.... rule of thumb is you go out there when you know what you are doing, the dog knows what he's doing and.... it's supposed to be tackle each exercise and flow between. If dog is throwing you some challenges, you find positives. The dog is still learning - especially if they are first time in the ring ever. You have many trials ahead to enter and try again - and get better each time. <B
Woohoo! Congratulations to Glee and you!!

And thanks for the good advice.
Thanks for this thread. I’m loving it and know I will learn much. It’s nice reading about what you’re doing and progress you make. I will chime in soon. Brian Jr. is visiting from D.C. until tomorrow and I’m enjoying his company. I’ve trained Logan — just haven’t found time to type about it.
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