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Leslie
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Another seizure 20 minutes ago. He's so hungry and restless. I'm exhausted. Thanks everyone for your good thoughts. I hope I can get him calmed down soon so we can sleep.
 

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I'm wondering about what the vet says as well? Do you have any valium for him...has he been seen? I'm so sorry for both of you. I know how exhausted and worried you must be!
When Hawk seizes he's hungry too. We feed him half his normal portion after. He is also restless and can be disorientated. I don't do anything after the first but if he has a second in a 24hour period I give him rectal valium and have now been instructed to give him a couple of oral doses for a day kr two. It helps break the cluster.

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Could Helo be low in magnesium? Or maybe something going on with his thyroid?

Here's a link that talks about possible causes and remedies. This link is not just about epilepsy, but any type of seizure:

Epilepsy Remedies
 
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He was seen at the emergency vet Saturday night after the 3 seizures in less than 1 hour. She gave him IV valium and he had a bad reaction to it so I did not get any valium from her because I don't want a repeat of the reaction.(like a mini seizure lasting 15 minutes). She doesn't really know what to do. We increased his Potassium Bromide to 5 ml per day and Saturday I'm going to take him in for a blood draw to check that level and see how his thyroid is doing. Perhaps he needs more (he's already on 0.8 twice a day) and check his ALT to see if that has gone up or down. I'm just taking it a day at a time and since he seems to be improving, that's a good sign. I can take him to a specialist an hour away and will do that if he worsens. He only had 1 seizure last night and his recovery from it was less than an hour so I see that as improvement. I just looked at his blood work from Saturday night and they didn't run a magnesium so we could check that also.
 

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Potassium Bromide takes up to 3 months to get to it's level in the bloodstream. There is no way an increase on Sat. is going to show up . It is really important to do these blood draws after a certain time from taking the meds. You need to check with the lab that is being used to get the timing. I am so sorry you are going through this. Both these seizure meds do mess with the thyroid meds. I had to run my seizure pup's blood work every month.
 

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He's been on potassium bromide for over 2 years so at least if we get it tested we'll see if his previous dose of 3ml per day was therapeutic. I had never had it checked because he wasn't having seizures for those 2 years so it was therapeutic because of that result (in my mind). I'm more concerned with his ALT result on Saturday and if it has gone down and the thyroid testing.

I'm just so glad he's back to normal and no seizures in almost 48 hours. Finger crossed!
 

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Well that totally makes sense then. I'd be really surprised if his thyroid isn't low. Which could easily be the cause of his seizures again.There is something about not doing bloodwork within so many days of a Grand Mal seizure, I could check that if you's like. Do you know what lab your vet uses?
 

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Is Helo being seen by a veterinary neurologist? If not, I heartily recommend that you get him to one. Neurologists are the experts in conditions like seizures. Take along your seizure journal if you have one (and start one now, if you don't have one yet) and a video of seizures and/or other behaviors that worry you - if you are able to capture a video, which isn't easy.

The mini-seizures that you describe might be focal seizures. If so, zonisamide is often effective in controlling them. If that is prescribed, be aware that the cost varies wildly depending on where you get it. My 80 pound Charlie was on 4 x 100 mg capsules twice a day. The cost ranged from $55 per month to over $400, which moves from "we can do this" to "there's no way I can even think about doing this" in terms of the budget.

Holding Helo and you in my thoughts and prayers,
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Helo has been doing very well since I last posted. No seizures since Oct. 15th!!! I took him in for a recheck of his ALT and it was down to 315 (from 900). I will take him in again for more blood work in a couple of weeks to make sure the ALT is still going down. I am convinced it was the food that caused his seizures on Oct. 12th (and the high ALT).

He has not been seen by a veterinary neurologist but that will be the next step if the seizures come back and if I can find one. I live 2 hours from Salt Lake City in a small town and we only have 3 general vets here, no specialists.

Thank you for suggesting zonisamide for controlling seizures since he had a weird reaction to the valium. Hopefully we won't need to try it.
 

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...He has not been seen by a veterinary neurologist but that will be the next step if the seizures come back and if I can find one. I live 2 hours from Salt Lake City in a small town and we only have 3 general vets here, no specialists....
If you need to see specialists, Salt Lake City is a reasonable place to go (if you can handle the distance). You might start with the University: University Veterinary Hospital | Veterinarian Salt Lake City, Utah.

Good luck and please keep us posted.
 

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An update on my boy Helo... No seizures since Oct. 15. :) I took him to the vet yesterday for a recheck of his ALT and it's down to 31 so NORMAL!! Horray! His T4 is on the high side of normal so that's good, too. I'm keeping him away from anything fish related as I think that's what caused the seizures and allergic reaction back in October. I did a search for vet neurologists in Utah and there is exactly one in Salt Lake. I will take him there if he starts having more seizures as the 2 hour drive is nothing. I go to SLC at least once a month as my kids live there. Thanks for all the support everyone. I appreciate it.
 

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I was going to update this in October when the anniversary of Helo's last seizure came up but I got busy and forgot. I am happy to report he hasn't had any seizures since Oct. 15 of 2013!!!! I am so happy!!! I recently took him to the vet for blood work and everything looks great. He's such a sweet, happy pup. I don't know for sure how old he is but I'm saying he's 10, right in between Cindy, the chocolate lab, who is 11 and Marilyn, the lab mix, who will be 9 next month.

I wanted to mention a funny/strange thing with Helo....he has struggled with ear infections since I got him 3 1/2 years ago. Nothing we tried would get rid of them. Then I stopped giving him peanut butter with pills since he is on chewable thyroid pills and will take them without being smeared in something. Once we stopped the peanut butter, his ear cleared right up!! About 6 weeks ago I took all 3 dogs to the boarding kennel when I went on vacation. She is really good about giving medicine to him (he needs his potassium bromide on a piece of bread every night) and when I came back she told me she had given him his thyroid pill with peanut butter even though I didn't bring any PB for him like I had when boarding him in the past. Guess what? He had a full blown ear infection again! It has taken me until a couple of days ago to get rid of the darn thing. So I guess next time he goes to the kennel I need to be specific about NO peanut butter and NO fish for Helo.

One other thing, I wonder if I will ever not be on high alert for seizures. If I notice him acting the least bit strange I start getting anxious that he is about to have a seizure, or if I hear him move around too much at night I am immediately wake up listening for a seizure. I know all too well seizures can return at any time so I guess I will continue to be vigilant. :)
 
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