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No way! My girl is a faith Lennon baby. What year? Shes Dec 2016. :)

I also just wanted to add in their defence- Fort Knox's owners are very not tech savvy. Lovely people and they do have all the official health clearances included in your puppy package- she also sends you copies of before committing too, if requested. She doesn't even have a website now because she didn't have time to maintain it.
I worked in the dog care industry, I went with Fort Knox as I knew 3 dogs from there, all of them lovely in temperment with humans. 2 ended up with some dog aggression, but frankly that was definitely a socialization issue. They also seem to have the mild allergies very common in goldens and labs. My girl gets some but never anything to the point we've medicated, just a bit itchy during grass season.
I've been in contact with Kathleen about a potential puppy. How old are the goldens you know from Fort Knox? I want to see the eye/heart reports and/or contact the specialist veterinarians, but I'm pretty impressed with the information I've been given so far.
 

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I've been in contact with Kathleen about a potential puppy. How old are the goldens you know from Fort Knox? I want to see the eye/heart reports and/or contact the specialist veterinarians, but I'm pretty impressed with the information I've been given so far.
You should be able to put the parents' registered names into the OFA database and see hip, elbow, eyes and heart clearances. Those are publicly available. They should also be doing DNA testing and make those results readily available to you. If you're not sure how to do this, if you post the names of the sire and dam here, someone can check clearances for you.
 

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I have a fortknox golden, and he’s wonderful. No issues at all. A bit of a picky eater but oh well.

Also, I’m not quite sure why you can’t find the info for their dogs, you must not have looked very hard...

Groot (homebred, stud for recent litter)
K9 data: Pedigree: Fortknoxs Iam Groot
OFA: https://www.ofa.org/advanced-search?f=sr&appnum=2042686

“OhOh” (ambercroft, the stud for my boy Goose)
K9 data: Pedigree: CanCH Dreamworks Whadudo This Time
OFA: https://www.ofa.org/advanced-search?quicksearch=Dreamworks Whadudo This Time

Daisy (mom of our boy Goose)
K9data: Pedigree: Fortknoxs Flower Child
OFA: https://www.ofa.org/advanced-search?quicksearch=Fortknox%92s%20Flower%20Child

Rigby (one of her females)
K9 data: https://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=705792

I think I’ve proved my point...

Kathleen is a wonderful breeder, some of her pups on instagram: @thegoldenspeedster @Jasperthegoldenboy @hudson_goldenboy

I’m happy to answer any questions about the process, or about our experience. We’re actually picking up puppy number two from Kathleen tomorrow morning!
 

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Ps- this list doesn’t include all the dogs that are from external breeders (such as Ambercroft) that Kathleen will use as well.
 

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I don't see eyes or heart on the OFA site for Daisy or Groot. I did not bother looking up the other dogs. Those are incomplete health tests. Also missing are the DNA results for other diseases.
 

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The original issue called out is that “none of the dogs have any health clearances on k9data or OFA, or are 10+ years old” which is not the case. The majority of clearances are searchable, and we received a comprehensive copy of all health clearances for both parents when we bought our first pup.
 

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This still does not explain the missing heart and eye testing. If it's been done...it should be up on the OFA website. Just having hips and elbows is not complete.
 

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You should be able to put the parents' registered names into the OFA database and see hip, elbow, eyes and heart clearances. Those are publicly available. They should also be doing DNA testing and make those results readily available to you. If you're not sure how to do this, if you post the names of the sire and dam here, someone can check clearances for you.
Thank you for the help. I do understand how to look up names on OFA and K9Data. They don't have the heart/eyes posted, but they did provide the specialist's names that cleared the heart or eyes on their dogs.
To my knowledge, it is additional cost to post heart/eyes on OFA, so I'm not concerned if they are not posted IF I am able to receive copies and call the doctor to confirm authenticity.
 

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This still does not explain the missing heart and eye testing. If it's been done...it should be up on the OFA website. Just having hips and elbows is not complete.
The original issue called out is that “none of the dogs have any health clearances on k9data or OFA, or are 10+ years old” which is not the case. The majority of clearances are searchable, and we received a comprehensive copy of all health clearances for both parents when we bought our first pup.
How was your experience? I was in contact with Kathleen but I think I may have asked too many questions in my last email as she has not responded...
 

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We picked up a puppy on the weekend from Kathleen and I received copies of the OFA clearance paperwork for eyes, hips, elbows and heart for both mom and dad. Mom had “excellent” hips (made me chuckle).
No heart abnormalities or murmurs so no ECG was needed for mom or dad.

Puppy is settling in well, happy little guy.
 

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Thank you for the help. I do understand how to look up names on OFA and K9Data. They don't have the heart/eyes posted, but they did provide the specialist's names that cleared the heart or eyes on their dogs.
To my knowledge, it is additional cost to post heart/eyes on OFA, so I'm not concerned if they are not posted IF I am able to receive copies and call the doctor to confirm authenticity.
There is a small fee to post eyes and heart results on OFA. There is no excuse not to have them posted. They have no website and their FB page has no information about their breeding program...and it also looks like they are breeding Pugs?? They also do not have DNA testing done. You should NOT have to call the vet that did the eyes and heart...the breeder should have the paperwork and be able to at least scan it and send you the paper copies that they NEED to have.
Something 'smells' about this breeder. You may be in luck that they have not been back in touch with you because you asked questions.
 

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Hannah, I realize you are really invested in your breeder's being considered ethical. A best way to do this is to post sire and dam's registered names.
 

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There is a small fee to post eyes and heart results on OFA. There is no excuse not to have them posted. They have no website and their FB page has no information about their breeding program...and it also looks like they are breeding Pugs?? They also do not have DNA testing done. You should NOT have to call the vet that did the eyes and heart...the breeder should have the paperwork and be able to at least scan it and send you the paper copies that they NEED to have.
Something 'smells' about this breeder. You may be in luck that they have not been back in touch with you because you asked questions.
wowza, seems like you have a bone to pick... no pun intended

The breeder does provide copies official OFA testing (eyes, heart, hips & elbows). They used to have a website, but it was definitely dated. This is a small family operation, and the owners are (self-admitted) not tech savvy. Kathleen mentioned that she has a hard enough time keeping up with inquiries and their wait list. Just because they may not be the most savvy business people, doesn’t mean they aren’t good breeders.

I’m not sure how fair it is to speculate or judge based on a dated facebook page, that may not even be the right breeder (I’ve never seen pugs from them).

I would give the same advice that we received... go meet them before you get a puppy, many of the parents are on-site. Meet her dogs, and learn about her operation. When we went to meet them the first time, we were shown all registrations and testing for the prospective parents and were allowed to meet mom (and dad’s brother!).

Also - look for people who will share their experience, if you search #fortknoxgoldens on instagram, you will find many goldies from them. Send a message and I’m sure you’ll get the same story.
 

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Daisy and Groot are both missing having their eye and heart clearances posted on OFA. Just elbows and hips are posted and DNA missing. I'm always suspect when breeders can breed, and sell their puppies...but cannot keep even a simple FB page or website.
 
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