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I have about a 7 month old golden, zara. I have noted some changes in her eyes. However, I am not sure if this is just because now that she knows how to sit, I am able to brush her teeth and get a bit closer to her face and haven’t noticed this before or if this is something I should worry about. (I will admit I am a bit neurotic about things as she’s my first pup, but I just want to make sure she is happy and healthy!)

She seems to see fine - can catch treats out of the air, watches birds in the sky, chases flies and ants, not bumping into furniture, will walk around in a dark room etc. I’ve just never seen eyes that reflect the way hers do. And it is only at particular angles of light do her eyes reflect like this!

Any info would help. She is going to the vet in 1 wk to have to looked at but any additional info or questions prior to then would be greatly appreciated!!
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Any changes in her eyes should be checked out by a Veterinary Opthalmologist ASAP, a regular vet will not have the equipment and expertise to check for some of the eye disease that Goldens are prone to. Hopefully they will find nothing serious - she should have yearly eye checks for life just to be on the safe side. There are eye issues that can cause extreme pain and progress to blindness. Here is a link: ACVO
 

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Any changes in her eyes should be checked out by a Veterinary Opthalmologist, a regular vet will not have the equipment and expertise to check for some of the eye disease that Goldens are prone to. Hopefully they will find nothing serious - she should have yearly eye checks for life just to be on the safe side. There are eye issues that can cause extreme pain and progress to blindness.
Thank you! Yeah, I just need the referral from the regular vet before I can schedule with an ophthalmologist unfortunately. She does not appear to be in pain - eyes are not red, no tearing, no itching/rubbing the eyes. Have you seen this type of reflection before?
 

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So.... their eyes will reflect light. That part is normal...

White reflection puzzled me - but probably normal.

What I was squinting at in the pictures was the black part seemed to be edging into the brown part of the eye - but can't see very well because of the reflection.

Start with getting a peep from your vet.

Re eye vet - Where are you located? It is possible that if you are near a big show cluster taking place this weekend, you could drop in to do OFA's if they are doing them? Means like say if you were here in MI or relatively close (northern OH), you could bring your pup to the show on Sat and get her eye cert done for 40 bucks.

Other shows in other states if taking place on Sat may offer the same opportunity.

If you are near a show doing OFA clinics - I would go that route vs going to your vet.

But if you are in no man's land somewhere and no nearby shows, etc... go to your vet.
 

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So.... their eyes will reflect light. That part is normal...

White reflection puzzled me - but probably normal.

What I was squinting at in the pictures was the black part seemed to be edging into the brown part of the eye - but can't see very well because of the reflection.

Start with getting a peep from your vet.

Re eye vet - Where are you located? It is possible that if you are near a big show cluster taking place this weekend, you could drop in to do OFA's if they are doing them? Means like say if you were here in MI or relatively close (northern OH), you could bring your pup to the show on Sat and get her eye cert done for 40 bucks.

Other shows in other states if taking place on Sat may offer the same opportunity.

If you are near a show doing OFA clinics - I would go that route vs going to your vet.

But if you are in no man's land somewhere and no nearby shows, etc... go to your vet.
Which photo are you seeing the pupil edging into the iris? Ik their eyes will reflect light due to the tapetum lucidum; however I have never seen the upside down Y in the first photo or the white reflection, which is what concerned/puzzled me.
where would I find where/when the shows are?
mate eye certain typically more than 40 bucks?
 

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You don’t need a referral to go to an ophthalmologist. You can just go to any eye clinic near you and get her checked out. Or you can even make an appointment at a specialty or university and just say you need to get her eye clearance done. The latter will be more expensive, but if you’re really worried, it will give you peace of mind.

To find shows near you, you can go to the AKC event search or Infodog.com
 
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You don’t need a referral to go to an ophthalmologist. You can just go to any eye clinic near you and get her checked out. Or you can even make an appointment at a specialty or university and just say you need to get her eye clearance done. The latter will be more expensive, but if you’re really worried, it will give you peace of mind.

To find shows near you, you can go to the AKC event search of Infodog.com
I tried to make an appt at the animal eye care vet near me and they say I needed blood work and a referral form filled out before I could make the appt. I do see there is an eye clinic on the OFA website in a few weeks, so we will likely go to that!
 

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An eye exam by 4 years old was required in our contract with the breeder. I couldn't get into a ophthalmologist without a referral so someone here suggested asking for a OFA eye exam and we got right in. It was less expensive than a regular eye exam. They found uveal cysts so now we go in on a regular basis.
 
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I tried to make an appt at the animal eye care vet near me and they say I needed blood work and a referral form filled out before I could make the appt. I do see there is an eye clinic on the OFA website in a few weeks, so we will likely go to that!
Did you tell them you think she has a problem? What if you called and said you just need to get an OFA eye exam?

Also, it matters if the vet is a board certified ophthalmologist or not.
 

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An eye exam by 4 years old was required in our contract with the breeder. I couldn't get into a ophthalmologist without a referral so someone here suggested asking for a OFA eye exam and we got right in. It was less expensive than a regular eye exam. They found uveal cysts so now we go in on a regular basis.
Is this what their eyes looked like prior to the exam?
 

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Not at all. His eyes look perfectly normal.
 

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Not at all. His eyes look perfectly normal.
Oh okay gotchya. What is the difference between the OFA eye exam and
Did you tell them you think she has a problem? What if you called and said you just need to get an OFA eye exam?

Also, it matters if the vet is a board certified ophthalmologist or not.
yes I did. They are a board certified ophthalmologist. What is the difference between an OFA and going to an ophthalmologist? Can a regular vet perform OFA eye exam?
 

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Oh okay gotchya. What is the difference between the OFA eye exam and

yes I did. They are a board certified ophthalmologist. What is the difference between an OFA and going to an ophthalmologist? Can a regular vet perform OFA eye exam?
No, a regular vet can’t perform an OFA eye exam.

For some reason, it seems like clinics want a referral if you call thinking you have a problem. They want the documentation.

If you go for a routine OFA exam, you aren’t necessarily going because of a problem. You’re actually going hoping for clear/normal eyes. If they find a problem during an OFA exam, then you can book a separate appointment for a more in depth exam and you won’t need a referral because the condition was diagnosed during a routine exam. Make sense?

Some conditions, like certain types of cataracts for example, don’t need a separate follow-up exam. You would just continue doing OFA exams annually and check for progression. There are a lot conditions that Goldens can get that don’t actually affect their vision.
 

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No, a regular vet can’t perform an OFA eye exam.

For some reason, it seems like clinics want a referral if you call thinking you have a problem. They want the documentation.

If you go for a routine OFA exam, you aren’t necessarily going because of a problem. You’re actually going hoping for clear/normal eyes. If they find a problem during an OFA exam, then you can book a separate appointment for a more in depth exam and you won’t need a referral because the condition was diagnosed during a routine exam. Make sense?

Some conditions, like certain types of cataracts for example, don’t need a separate follow-up exam. You would just continue doing OFA exams annually and check for progression. There are a lot conditions that Goldens can get that don’t actually affect their vision.
Got it. Thank you so much for the info. I really appreciate it. I will start with an OFA exam and go from there!
 

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Which photo are you seeing the pupil edging into the iris? Ik their eyes will reflect light due to the tapetum lucidum; however I have never seen the upside down Y in the first photo or the white reflection, which is what concerned/puzzled me.
where would I find where/when the shows are?
mate eye certain typically more than 40 bucks?
I did see the upside down Y but thought it was just a very odd reflection of the light. Definitely would skip the regular vet and at least do an OFA. If the eye vet sees something that needs to be treated, they will make recommendations to you then. Please provide an update if you can - because obviously it would be a learning experience for all of us and or would help other owners.

What I was looking at was the seemingly irregular shape of the iris in the below pic. And I can't tell if that lighter coloring and possibly what you are seeing as an owner is just a trick of the light or possibly inflammation. It is definitely worth getting him in for an ofa to start with. And go from there.

I would recommend seeing your vet and getting the ball rolling for a more immediate exam/treatment by an eye specialist if your dog was squinting or had discharging or other obvious signs of his eyes bothering him.

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....irregular shape of the iris in the below pic. And I can't tell if that lighter coloring and possibly what you are seeing as an owner is just a trick of the light or possibly inflammation..

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I didn't want to cause unnecessary upset but this is what concerned me. My first thought was inflammation. If this were my dog, I'd be pitching a fit to get into the Opthalmologist next week. The problem with saving money with the OFA exam is that there will then be another delay in having the dog seen the the VO who can finish testing and make a treatment decision should that be the outcome. It's quite a delay if this is a worst case scenario. The more I read and observe, the more convinced I am that early treatment done religiously is key to keeping some dogs from progressing.
 

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I didn't want to cause unnecessary upset but this is what concerned me. My first thought was inflammation. If this were my dog, I'd be pitching a fit to get into the Opthalmologist next week. The problem with saving money with the OFA exam is that there will then be another delay in having the dog seen the the VO who can finish testing and make a treatment decision should that be the outcome. It's quite a delay if this is a worst case scenario. The more I read and observe, the more convinced I am that early treatment done religiously is key to keeping some dogs from progressing.
I mentioned OFA clinics because if you are near a show that's doing them THIS WEEKEND, there would be no delay to getting the eyes looked at.

Somebody here in Michigan or northern OH could very easily drive their young dog to the show in Monroe tomorrow and get the eyes OFA'd, no appointment needed, etc.

The OP does not say where they are located, odds are possible that they may be near a similar show with similar clinics going on tomorrow.

I agree this needs to be seen sooner - but understand that many ophthalmologists are backed up, even for in-clinic OFA's. Clinics at shows can be very helpful for that reason.

***I would say that I believe that GR PU is extremely unlikely due to the age of the pup. However regular uveitis (inflammation) is not rare and can be caused by a number of things from injury to virus. The iris can look wonky depending on lighting. Believe me, we all have late night panic attacks because the eyes look funny in the light. I'm not brushing off any concerns, I just want the owner to keep in mind that it's a good thing if the dog is not squinting, having discharge, or showing signs of a problem. Still needs to be looked at.
 

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I didn't want to cause unnecessary upset but this is what concerned me. My first thought was inflammation. If this were my dog, I'd be pitching a fit to get into the Opthalmologist next week. The problem with saving money with the OFA exam is that there will then be another delay in having the dog seen the the VO who can finish testing and make a treatment decision should that be the outcome. It's quite a delay if this is a worst case scenario. The more I read and observe, the more convinced I am that early treatment done religiously is key to keeping some dogs from progressing.
What does inflammation mean? Like what is the diagnosis associated with that?
 

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Hi OP. More than likely your dog has completely normal eyes. Always good to get regular eye exams on Goldens though. Best bet would be to share regular photos of the eye. You can see almost nothing from these photos that would be helpful in diagnosing anything. The only eye disease I can think of related to the tapetum lucidum in Goldens is progressive retinal atrophy, which does not typically set in this young.
Again, your dog is more than likely completely fine, eye exams are a good idea in Goldens anyway.
 
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