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I love my little chunky monkey but lets face it, she could lose a pound or two. So its diet time for the Chlobo

So far my game plan is:

Food:
1 cup of kibble at each meal (twice a deal)
Little bit of bran
1/2 cup of green beans

Treats:
Chicken

Exercise:
1 hour walks, twice a day (this is what we do already)
20 min running/playing in the backyard

I could use some tips/suggestions
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Is it really only a pound or two you want her to drop?

I think a lot of it depends on how calorie-rich your kibble is, how much you have been feeding her, and how much you really want her to lose.

You could start by considering how many calories she has been getting per day, and divide that number by her weight in pounds to get the ratio of how much calories per pound she needs (ie 900 calories per day / 65 pounds = 13.8 calories per pound to sustain current weight).

So, you could identify a target weight, and multiply by that factor: 13.8 * 60 pounds target weight = 830 calories per day.

I'm not sure if other people see it that way, but that's how i tend to look at the world.
 

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All I did when I noticed my girl was gaining a tad bit of weight was slowly reduce her food. All it took was removing one of her medallions (frozen raw) from one of her feedings ~ boom! In a short amount of time she was perfect. I was surprised how little of an adjustment it took for her to loose 4 lbs.

Maybe her treats are too much ~ have you tried Zukes --the treats that are teeny-tiny? Or maybe the chicken treats (I am assuming it's chicken we eat for dinner sort of thing??) are just too big. Try cutting them smaller - Zukes size, so she doesn't get too many calories/fat from treats.

Maybe reduce her kibble just a tad and her green beans just a tad either at one of the feedings, or split between both and see what happens. Even just by 1/4 or even an eighth.

Also, any way she can get more time off leash in a larger area to really burn off some calories. I know it isn't possible for everyone, but being able to run-run-run for a good 1 1/2-2hrs off leash in open fields or woods, or something like that is so good for them. Even if it's a only few times a week.

Just trying to throw some ideas out there for you. :)
 

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Step 1: Feed less. Step 2: Let the dog burn more calories.

I honestly think we make healthy weight more complicated than it needs to be by anthropomorphizing. A dog will adjust to the lowered amount of food, especially if you make changes slowly. All you really need is a measuring cup in the kibble bucket. Oh, Fido is getting chunky? He gets 2.5 scoops a day instead of 3.

The hardest part is probably getting all the family members to be consistent and not to project hunger or sadness onto the dog. And if a dog is maintaining weight or losing it very gradually, he's not going to be malnourished. If he's got excess fat, he's getting enough nutrition. And most Goldens will still beg for people food regardless of how many calories they get in the dog bowl. That's a training issue, not a "poor hungry dog" issue.

The proviso I'd give for increased exercise only has two parts: first, make all exercise increases gradual in order to minimize the risk of injury. Second, the heavier the dog is, the more important it is to do low impact exercise. Nothing beats swimming for low impact/high calorie exercise.
 

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The hardest part is probably getting all the family members to be consistent .
This is my issue. Brady started his diet on Saturday. He has at least 10 lbs to lose. I bought a bag of Charley Bears (they are very low in calories) and told my husband that these are his treats, not whatever you are snacking on.

Since I am only feeding Brady 1 cup of kibble, twice a day, I really think I can't decrease that much more, so I did go out and buy the Wellness Core Reduced fat. I do have some bags of frozen green beans in the freezer too.
 

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This is my issue. Brady started his diet on Saturday. He has at least 10 lbs to lose. I bought a bag of Charley Bears (they are very low in calories) and told my husband that these are his treats, not whatever you are snacking on.

Since I am only feeding Brady 1 cup of kibble, twice a day, I really think I can't decrease that much more, so I did go out and buy the Wellness Core Reduced fat. I do have some bags of frozen green beans in the freezer too.
If it's relatively high calorie kibble, I don't see the problem with going a little below 2 cups a day. But my guess is that it's the people food snacks that are the real calorie culprit.
 

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My boys were a bit heavy. Hunter was 87 and Reilly was 81. I was feeding them Eukanuba at 2-1/4 c per day. I cut them back to 1-3/4 c/day with 1/3 can of unsalted green beans. I discontinued almost all treats. I walk them off leash 3 to 5 times a week for 1 hr or more. The boys took about 4-5 months to loose weight to where I wanted them. Reilly is down to 67# and Hunter is 71#. So it was substantial. The hardest part was the first few weeks they were very hungry. The beans helped, but it was hard to keep from feeding them more. Now they are where they should be. I have increased their food to 2 c/day. They will stay at that level with the beans added in. Oh I forgot I added several apples and a few salmon skins a week also. Those are both big hits at my house.
 

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Is it really only a pound or two you want her to drop?

I think a lot of it depends on how calorie-rich your kibble is, how much you have been feeding her, and how much you really want her to lose.

You could start by considering how many calories she has been getting per day, and divide that number by her weight in pounds to get the ratio of how much calories per pound she needs (ie 900 calories per day / 65 pounds = 13.8 calories per pound to sustain current weight).

So, you could identify a target weight, and multiply by that factor: 13.8 * 60 pounds target weight = 830 calories per day.

I'm not sure if other people see it that way, but that's how i tend to look at the world.
Its a bit more then a couple pounds... Im thinking close to 10lbs. I have noticed the past month that she has really started to pack on the lbs. I cant feel her ribs but a thin layer of chub instead.

Thanks for the formula! Im going to check her food bag when I get home.

All I did when I noticed my girl was gaining a tad bit of weight was slowly reduce her food. All it took was removing one of her medallions (frozen raw) from one of her feedings ~ boom! In a short amount of time she was perfect. I was surprised how little of an adjustment it took for her to loose 4 lbs.

Maybe her treats are too much ~ have you tried Zukes --the treats that are teeny-tiny? Or maybe the chicken treats (I am assuming it's chicken we eat for dinner sort of thing??) are just too big. Try cutting them smaller - Zukes size, so she doesn't get too many calories/fat from treats.

Maybe reduce her kibble just a tad and her green beans just a tad either at one of the feedings, or split between both and see what happens. Even just by 1/4 or even an eighth.

Also, any way she can get more time off leash in a larger area to really burn off some calories. I know it isn't possible for everyone, but being able to run-run-run for a good 1 1/2-2hrs off leash in open fields or woods, or something like that is so good for them. Even if it's a only few times a week.

Just trying to throw some ideas out there for you. :)
Thank you for your suggestions!

YES! The treats are a huge factor. I have been making my own but maybe they are still too high on calories. I am still working with her and her leash reactiveness. So treats are incorporated in our walks as rewards... i was thinking that chicken might be a good alternative, still yummy but lower in calories? Also, I give her a banana or kibble kong with peanut butter in it when I leave for work or classes, I think this needs to be removed from her diet.

We have a ton of great places that Chloe would run but unfortunately she is untrustworthy off leash, half the time she has awesome recall and the other times she pretends she is deaf . At my condo, there was a great fenced in park that the neighbourhood dogs use to come in and play. She use to get so much excerise everyday and a ton of socializing. Since the move here she hasnt made too many friends and I havent found an enclosed park for her to run. Since our move, Chloe has really matured and if we aren't walking then she is inside sleeping. Her activity level and exercise level has really decreased over the past year. On the brightside, I have a backyard now! Althought she prefers to lounge in the yard, unless there is a squirel :rolleyes:. I have wanted to add another dog for awhile and almost did this winter but I decided to wait for another 6 months to a year... it might be beneficial for Chloe to have a playmate instead of being a lounge puppy during the day. Hrmmmm.... like I need more reasons to fuel my puppy fever. lol

Step 1: Feed less. Step 2: Let the dog burn more calories.

I honestly think we make healthy weight more complicated than it needs to be by anthropomorphizing. A dog will adjust to the lowered amount of food, especially if you make changes slowly. All you really need is a measuring cup in the kibble bucket. Oh, Fido is getting chunky? He gets 2.5 scoops a day instead of 3.

The hardest part is probably getting all the family members to be consistent and not to project hunger or sadness onto the dog. And if a dog is maintaining weight or losing it very gradually, he's not going to be malnourished. If he's got excess fat, he's getting enough nutrition. And most Goldens will still beg for people food regardless of how many calories they get in the dog bowl. That's a training issue, not a "poor hungry dog" issue.

The proviso I'd give for increased exercise only has two parts: first, make all exercise increases gradual in order to minimize the risk of injury. Second, the heavier the dog is, the more important it is to do low impact exercise. Nothing beats swimming for low impact/high calorie exercise.
Thanks tippykayak!

I have a measuring cup in the bin. I am usually pretty good about scooping the right amount. If there is over feeding, I would be the guilty one :curtain:... I live by myself. Its funny... I was actually thinking about lowering her excerise routine only because she seems so exhausted afterwards. She will sleep for hours and hours and just veg all day and night. After typing some of these repsonses out loud, Im starting to wonder if she is maybe depressed? She use to have a ton of playmates and countless energy but since we moved here she prefers to veg instead of play.

This is my issue. Brady started his diet on Saturday. He has at least 10 lbs to lose. I bought a bag of Charley Bears (they are very low in calories) and told my husband that these are his treats, not whatever you are snacking on.

Since I am only feeding Brady 1 cup of kibble, twice a day, I really think I can't decrease that much more, so I did go out and buy the Wellness Core Reduced fat. I do have some bags of frozen green beans in the freezer too.
Im glad Im not alone!! I have been feeding Chloe the same amount (1 cup plus beanies at each meal). I have noticed in the past month or two that she is really packing on the pounds.

My boys were a bit heavy. Hunter was 87 and Reilly was 81. I was feeding them Eukanuba at 2-1/4 c per day. I cut them back to 1-3/4 c/day with 1/3 can of unsalted green beans. I discontinued almost all treats. I walk them off leash 3 to 5 times a week for 1 hr or more. The boys took about 4-5 months to loose weight to where I wanted them. Reilly is down to 67# and Hunter is 71#. So it was substantial. The hardest part was the first few weeks they were very hungry. The beans helped, but it was hard to keep from feeding them more. Now they are where they should be. I have increased their food to 2 c/day. They will stay at that level with the beans added in. Oh I forgot I added several apples and a few salmon skins a week also. Those are both big hits at my house.
Love the apples and salmon idea! I didnt think of that. She loves fish, that is a great alternative!
 

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Send her to play with my girls.:) If you are interested in swimming, there is a wonderful indoor pool, in Aberfoyle that can be rented by the 1/2 hour. My girls have been there a couple of times in the winter.

Watermelon is a great treat, that has virtually no calories, and is loaded with lycopene which is good for them.
 

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If she is not getting as much socialization and exercise since you moved, her weight gain is probably due to not burning off the food she's getting. I suspect you could give her less kibble if needed. I really like to measure the day's food out all at once, then feed all treats out of the bowl during the day. I reserve a bunch for dinner but the rest is used for treats. Makes it very hard to over-feed.

I gave my Tess some green beans when she was losing weight. She liked them well enough, but truthfully she was just fine on the reduced amount of kibble so I stopped. She was hungry for several days (I had to ignore the sad pleading big eyes...) but then settled down. She lost several pounds that way and is now on an even keel, weight-wise.

Since you can't let her flat out run, perhaps you could give her more to do when at home. Play go find it, etc., in the house. That will tire dogs out and burn energy, just not as much as when they're running.

Good luck! And don't fall for the sad eyes... :D
 

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Maybe we should try to keep this thread active to report on how we are doing and to give us ideas - like weight watchers for goldens!
 

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Send her to play with my girls.:) If you are interested in swimming, there is a wonderful indoor pool, in Aberfoyle that can be rented by the 1/2 hour. My girls have been there a couple of times in the winter.

Watermelon is a great treat, that has virtually no calories, and is loaded with lycopene which is good for them.
We'd LOVE to have a play date! :D:D
Chloe would love to go swimming I didnt know places like that existed in our area. Do you have a link for the place?

Ohhh watermelon, that is my favourite - dont know if I am willing to share with Chloe lol ;)

If she is not getting as much socialization and exercise since you moved, her weight gain is probably due to not burning off the food she's getting. I suspect you could give her less kibble if needed. I really like to measure the day's food out all at once, then feed all treats out of the bowl during the day. I reserve a bunch for dinner but the rest is used for treats. Makes it very hard to over-feed.

I gave my Tess some green beans when she was losing weight. She liked them well enough, but truthfully she was just fine on the reduced amount of kibble so I stopped. She was hungry for several days (I had to ignore the sad pleading big eyes...) but then settled down. She lost several pounds that way and is now on an even keel, weight-wise.

Since you can't let her flat out run, perhaps you could give her more to do when at home. Play go find it, etc., in the house. That will tire dogs out and burn energy, just not as much as when they're running.

Good luck! And don't fall for the sad eyes... :D
Great ideas!!! Thank you so much! Yes, those pleading eyes get to me. She does this "lassie" thing where she will wimper and paw at you until you get up and she will show you what she wants. Its cute when she wants a toy from the cabinet or to go outside but she keeps on doing to the cupboard with the food and its breaking my heart.

Maybe we should try to keep this thread active to report on how we are doing and to give us ideas - like weight watchers for goldens!
haha - weight watcher for goldens, love that. I love the idea of reporting how we are doing! Im going to weight chloe tonight, post a "before" picyure and start logging food intake and excerise. We encourage each other, and share tips and strategies. :D:D
 

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Good thread - thanks for starting it MudEpawz! Got my pack on the scales last night - Millie lost has lost 5 lbs - down to 94 and Nikki lost 2.5 pounds down to 88.5 - that for the first month they have been here with me and Hank (neither of us lost any weight - Hank is still 83 lbs and a bit overweight). I have kept them to about 3 cups of adult weight food a day - half in the am and half at supper. They get dog bone treats - use small ones and break them I half. I was told that dogs don't recognize the size, the recognize the fact they are getting a treat from you. My vet constantly feeds very small snacks and I have yet to hear of dog that doesn't like going there! Nikkie and Millie were obviously fed human food but they are getting over it. They give me the sad eyes treatment but all I can think of is that I would be doing them no favours with human food. They do like veggies - they sat and waited their turns for the tops of the strawberries this afternoon! I am hoping to have all three down below 75 lbs sometime in the summer. Will be good when I can get Millie and Nikkie out walking longer - building it up gradually. The fish idea is a good one and I will be giving that a try!
 

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We'd LOVE to have a play date! :D:D
Chloe would love to go swimming I didnt know places like that existed in our area. Do you have a link for the place?

Ohhh watermelon, that is my favourite - dont know if I am willing to share with Chloe lol ;)

Here is a link for the pool. Click on the forms tab and then price list for recreational swimming.

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I love watermelon too, and I buy the biggest one I can find, because my 2 insist on sharing. They love it in frozen chunks too.
 

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Good thread - thanks for starting it MudEpawz! Got my pack on the scales last night - Millie lost has lost 5 lbs - down to 94 and Nikki lost 2.5 pounds down to 88.5 - that for the first month they have been here with me and Hank (neither of us lost any weight - Hank is still 83 lbs and a bit overweight). I have kept them to about 3 cups of adult weight food a day - half in the am and half at supper. They get dog bone treats - use small ones and break them I half. I was told that dogs don't recognize the size, the recognize the fact they are getting a treat from you. My vet constantly feeds very small snacks and I have yet to hear of dog that doesn't like going there! Nikkie and Millie were obviously fed human food but they are getting over it. They give me the sad eyes treatment but all I can think of is that I would be doing them no favours with human food. They do like veggies - they sat and waited their turns for the tops of the strawberries this afternoon! I am hoping to have all three down below 75 lbs sometime in the summer. Will be good when I can get Millie and Nikkie out walking longer - building it up gradually. The fish idea is a good one and I will be giving that a try!
Glad your pack is on the right track! I hope Chloe's weight loss is as successful! :)

I'm starting to think maybe chester could drop a few pounds..I'll take some pictures and post them up here if thats ok with the OP.
I forgot to take some pictures last night :doh:

I will do it tonight and post by tomorrow morning. I also need to use my wii fit as a scale since I dont own one.:uhoh:

Here is a link for the pool. Click on the forms tab and then price list for recreational swimming.

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I love watermelon too, and I buy the biggest one I can find, because my 2 insist on sharing. They love it in frozen chunks too.
Thank you!!
I didnt even think about frozen watermelon chunks! Thats a great idea!
What do you think about unsweetened applesauce? I was thinking about putting some in the kong and freezing it as a treat. Any thoughts ??
 
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