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Comparison of OFA Ratings and PennHIP DI Scores

6K views 5 replies 3 participants last post by  Tagrenine  
I'm interested in following this :) I think DI is a good, if slightly arbitrary value that could improve breeding programs, however at the cost of decreasing an already small gene pool.

That second post you made had me rereading it to understand what was being said, but I like the points you bring up.

I think part of the issue is the variety in veterinary submissions for OFA. Because sedation is not required and some vets do not know proper positioning or submit radiographs that really should be redone, I think we often end up with dogs that fail when they should pass and dogs that maybe pass when they should fail. I was reading about a dog the other day who was returned as "mild" OFA and 3 weeks later with new radiographs came back "good".

I think its difficult to make proper comparisons when how the image is shot can have such an impact on the score received.
 
There are two claims made by proponents of PennHIP.

The first is that the DI score does not significantly change with time, so a DI score for a 5-month old puppy should stay fairly constant over the life of the dog.

The second directly addresses your point about the radiography for OFAs. PennHIP proponents make the claim that the results can be reliably replicated across practitioners.
I would think the second point is more of an excuse vs a reason. Finding a good vet to do the images rather than just relying on one set of images (certainly the PH vet can shoot the OFA images at the same time unless they're getting them done before 2).

But I digress and agree. I would love to see a specific subset of breeders stop relying solely on PH and for there to be validity in getting both done, since that does seem to be the consensus that "OFA is subjective and thus doesn't matter".

In breeds where HD is nearly nonexistent, the OFA and PH values were in line with each other. Tight hips in sighthounds in a dated study (98% less than .30 and some as low as .08) corresponded with what was understood in the breed. Unfortunately, very very few sighthound breeders use OFA or PH anymore so we don't have their data for analysis.


I'll add this paper to the mix, even though its not a peer reviewed paper and rather an informative piece.