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It all started about a month ago when there was a week full of thunderstorms and my wife was out of town. Cleo who is 12 year ols started laying outside on the deck a lot to sleep and I figured it was just stress. I took her to the vet anyways and she got a clean bill of health and normal blood levels but the vet said she probably has some arthritis and prescribed Deramaxx. She perked up and went back to Normal for almost a month. We ran out of Deramaxx and we got really busy so Cleo was off it for about 3 days till we got it back.

A few days later she started vomiting so we stopped the Deramaxx in case it wad the issue. She didnt want to eat, and just started laying around for a while and lost about 5lbs. We took her back to the Vet and they did blood work and found her lipase and white blood cell count was up so they put her on antibiotics and antiemetic. She didnt get better after a few days so got x-rays and got an ultrasound and the Dr found she had a few enlarged lymph nodes in her abdomen and a little edge of her pancreas looked abnormal but they didnt think it was bad. They did a fine needle aspiration on one lymph-node.

The next day (5/16/2015) they called us and said there was some type of abdominal cancer that metastasized to her lymph node and that she only probably only has a couple weeks left to live. Needless to say, that day our world fell apart. They said put her back on Deramaxx for pain so we did and then she perked back up and went pretty much back to normal. Our regular vet thinks she most likely had an infection which caused the vomiting and weight loss but still thinks she has an adenocarcinoma that has metsticized to her lymph node and should be on palliative care until it stops working. She thinks a couple weeks is not accurate herself. We decided against any invasive or chemo already since she is 12 and dont want to put her through anything stressful, especially since we dont know for sure where the cancer is originating.

The next day she started eating fine, running around, playing and we decided to get the pathology report ourselves to take a look. The pathology report is very ambiguous and says it could possibly not even be cancer. We sent the report to a few human MD's who we are friends with they said it is pretty vague and the vet would have to have some pretty good evidence to back up the claims of 2 weeks. We got a recommendation to take her to an integrative medicine Vet and he said the report didnt look like it said much either and had no clue where they got the 2 weeks number from, even if it is cancer. Her other lymph nodes are not swollen or anything. We decided to try just supplements and diet change and he said it could shrink the cancer/make it stop growing if it is. She is currently doing great with the changes we made so we will see how it goes. She has tons of energy, 2-3 normal looking bowel movements a day, keeps up with our other two younger dogs. Its been almost a week since she got the fine needle aspiration and unless something extremely drastic happens, I cannot see this next week being her last.

We took her into our Vets office today just to buy more of the GI food and everyone was surprised how great she looks. She has an appointment next week to get her blood work done again to see if her #s are still off at all.

Diet plan: We are trying to keep her meals small and frequent so her pancreas doesnt have to work as hard in case it is that. I work from home so I can take care of her.

1. When she first wakes up we give her Apocaps at half the dosage since she is also on Deramaxx
2. An hour later we give her the Budwig recepe of blended Flax oil+Quark or low fat cottage cheese, we mix in digestive enzyme to help process it.
3. When we feed all 3 of the dogs, we give Cleo a little bit of Royal Canine Gastrointestinal food with a little food we made for her from the dogcancerblog recipe and put her immune booster + 50mg Deramaxx + let food sit with digestive enzymes first before she eats it.
4. She gets 30-60min of exercise on a walk or at the dog park during the day
5. In the middle of the day she gets a little food + her antibiotic + probiotics (until she is done with the antibiotics, then probably just probiotics)
6. Repeat 1-3 at night
7. Taking her to a new place/new park at night, plenty of photos, massages with essential oils, lots of affection in case this really is the last few weeks she has, make them memorable and keep her happy.

I am probably leaving out some details but writing it all down here actually helps me process it all. I am keeping hopeful that we can keep her around for another 6 months to a year before we have to say goodbye. Once that two weeks mark passes I think I will feel much better if she is still in this same shape.

Any other recommendations welcome

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I am praying. A lot of cancers are like this. Good one day then bad the next day. Jake had normal blood work the first time he collapsed. Only an ultrasound showed the cancer. His reports were also vague and said probably hemangiosarcoma. Jake was normal on the day he passed. It hits quickly. So just be prepared it can hit one minute no matter how they are acting.
 

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I am praying. A lot of cancers are like this. Good one day then bad the next day. Jake had normal blood work the first time he collapsed. Only an ultrasound showed the cancer. His reports were also vague and said probably hemangiosarcoma. Jake was normal on the day he passed. It hits quickly. So just be prepared it can hit one minute no matter how they are acting.
****, sorry to hear that. That really scares me now!!

They dont think that its hemangiosarcoma. Seems that hemangiosarcomas can rupture so they can be sudden. They told us likely Cleo would gradually just lose all motivation to live.
 

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So sorry you have had this bad news. Enjoy every day (as you are). At 12 she has had a good life with you, you are being pro-active with her treatment and it is great that you work from home and can be with her. Keep us posted.
 

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I am so happy to hear that your girl is doing ok/ good! A few things I would recommend... One getting an abdominal ultrasound by an internal medicine specialist. In my opinion the vagueness is not acceptable especially when they give you a "deadline" of two weeks. Adenocarcinoma is a good possibility but I believe a definite answer is acceptable to expect. The diet you are doing sounds like it is making Cleo happy and healthy so keep it up! Please be persistent in getting the answers you deserve. Although it might now change things, it is very helpful in knowing exactly what you are dealing with. Wishing you all the best!
 

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Yes Cleo did have an ultrasound and then the Vet spoke with the internist he works with. He infers its originating in the pancreas but said the only way to know is to open her up which both he/us don't want to do. (Path report is attached if you want to take a look)

He is probably right about the diagnosis and we are probably just in a state of denial finding any hole in the analysis but we need to in order to keep out/her spirits high.

I think we have tired her out this week from going to so many new parks so today she will most likely just get a little walk and some visitors to get social stimulation. Here she is yesterday when she decided she wanted to try out the playground.

https://youtu.be/iefQtrSgJrQ
 

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That report reminds me of jakes report. Although his said hemo yours is probably lymphoma. Your doing the right things and just enjoy the time you have left.
 

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Yes Cleo did have an ultrasound and then the Vet spoke with the internist he works with. He infers its originating in the pancreas but said the only way to know is to open her up which both he/us don't want to do.
After reading the report it does sound a little more concrete... With that being said I love the video! What a brave girl going across those bridges! She looks very happy :) So with that being said, it may very well be cancer, but don't dwell on the two weeks. No one can tell you when her time is up. As long as she is happy and comfortable thats all that matters. I know how hard this is. Hang in there and enjoy because she seems like she is!
 

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Have you considered having your Vet send the samples taken to Colorado State? They have the equipment needed to give you definitive answers. I did that because I didn't want to start any sort of Chemo without a firm YES, he has cancer 100%. I know that steroids really helped my boy feel so much better for a few weeks and he was stronger than ever. I hope you have lots of great memories to make in the next few weeks and that you guys get a miracle :) :)
 

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Update:

Cleo is still with us but maybe not for long. Outside of the house, she acts like a normal golden. The problem is she is not interested in food. We have tried to tempt her with just about everything we have read about. The last thing we want is for her to waste away and suffer so we are going to talk to the vet again today and see if there are any medications we can try which will get her to eat before we say goodbye.

Thanks for all the well wishes
 

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Cleo started fainting yesterday in the car and again at our vets office. We all decided she was telling us it was her time. She is no longer in any pain.


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I'm so sorry about your beautiful Cleo. Please know I'm thinking about you and your wife during this sad time.
 
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I'm so very sorry for the loss of your lovely Cleo....
 
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