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just lost my golden this morning. this is very hard for me.. he's 8.5 yrs old. very active and loyal dog, his name is simba.
last few months he's having a large lump on his lips, so i took him to the vet and decide to have it remove. so on feb 12 2011 he's having his surgery. came home fine, 24 hours later acting normally. but on feb 20 he's having his first seizure. he pee everywhere, but only last for less then a minute. never had seizure before, i dont even know what it is!!!
then this seizure become a habit. happened every 10-14 days, all last only for a minute, then he got up, drank and ate.
i did alot of reseach on dog seizure and my vet said its up to me whether to give him medicine or not, cause it only happened twice or 3 times a month.
then i thought this seizure medication have serious affect also on his liver, so i decided not to give him any medicine, just organic multivitamin and some fish oil. i thought if it happened more than twice a week then i would start giving him penobarbital.
then this morning when i wake up i see him still fine, he still walk and drink from his bowl. then 1 hour later he pass away!! he's all stiff already, and i see there's pee and saliva under his body and head, so i figure he's having one when he died..his eyes were still open when i discovered him, so meaning sudden death i guess..
this is very hard for me, i cry for hours now, and i miss him dearly..
i never thought he go away so soon, i know seizure is not life threatening.its just trouble some, but i love him very very much. BUT WHY HE DIE??
any of you have experience this?? is it possible his heart can't take stress from the seizure?? i wont ask my vet because the surgery cause his seizure.. i read before because lack of oxygen during his surgery can damage the nerve and cause his seizure.(actually thinking to run my vet over with my SUV!!!)
but is is possible seizure stop his heart???
i can't tell you how much i miss him, thinking what should i do to prevent it?? i know i gave him good life for 8,5 years. but its just to soon for him.
 

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I am so sorry. My bridge boy had seizures for 6+ years before he passed from something else. His seizures were not life threatening, nor was a cause ever diagnosed. My mother's collie who had never had a seizure before, had a series of seizures in a row, she counted at least 10, and did pass away. The Vet thought her brain gave out, not her heart.

Maybe your boy had a brain tumor? That would be my best guess as to why sudden seizures at that older age and than passing away.

Again, I am so so sorry. I know how your heart is breaking. RIP sweet boy.
 

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Very rarely will seizures kill a dog, but it does happen. I am very sorry for your loss. I know my vet probably would have pushed for the medication. If a pet is having more than 2 seizures within 3 months, we would consider it. Every 10-14 days is very frequently.

I don't know whether the urine is from the seizure, or just the body releasing itself after he is gone (which happens very often).

Again, I am very sorry to hear about your Simba, and my heart goes out to you and your family.
 

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What a terrible thing to have happen, I'm so very sorry for your loss.
My lost my border collie about two hours after her second seizure (that we know of, she may have had others when we were at work, we'll never know.)
If you still have him with you and have not cremated him you may consider a necropsy, if you are really wondering what happened. We did not do that with Cassie because we knew the underlying issue was liver failure, and I didn't want to have my beautiful girl invaded that way, but just know that the option is there if you are really wanting to know.
I am so sorry for your loss, what a terrible thing to wake up to.
Sleep gently, beautiful boy.
 

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I'm sorry about your boy. Did you ever find out what the mass was on lip? I don't think you really had any choice but to take that mass off. Cancers are sooooo common in goldens and had you left it, who knows how big it could/would have gotten. You and your vet made the best decision for your dog at that time. There was no way of knowing (and it easily could have been coincidental) that your boy was going to start having seizures a week later.

I'm with Paula, at 8.5 years and seizures just starting, I worry about a brain tumor. It would be extremely rare for anesthesia/surgery to "cause" recurrent seizures. Some of the anesthetic drugs will lower the seizure threshold, meaning that if your dog already has the potential to have a seizure it can make having a seizure while under the influence of the drug more likely (but once the drug is out of the system, it is extremely unlikely that there will be recurrent seizures).

My thoughts are that yes, a dog *can* die during a seizure, but it's very uncommon. Maybe a heart issue was the culprit as that could cause the foam and then after death when the body relaxed, the urine leaked out. Oh and BTW, eyes open is the natural position after death, whether sudden or slow, as one must actually use muscles to close the eyelids.
 

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I'm so very sorry for the tragic loss of your baby. My heart breaks for you finding him this morning. I don't know anything about seizures but just wanted to say that I'm just so sorry!!
 

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I am so very, very, sorry, for your loss of Simba.
You mentioned he had a growth on his lip that was removed in surgery-did the vet biopsy it? Was it cancer?
I agree with the other poster that said MAYBE Simba had a brain tumor.
 

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I am so sorry for your loss of your sweet Simba. While seizures can cause death it is very uncommon. It sounds like he might have had some type of cancer maybe a brain tumor. Especially since you had a tumor removed from his mouth. Please try not to feel guilty for it and dont blame your vet. It is very hard to diagnose what causes seizures.

My heart goes out to for your loss.
 

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I am very sorry to hear about your boy Simba, eventhough this is an old post.
My own Golden, Oska, had to be put to sleep on 13/11/13 after suffering from seizures for just over a year. After a very exhausting year of trying everything to help him, in the end nothing worked. Sadly this seems to be the case for many Golden Retrievers and many are dying far too young.
 

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I am very sorry to hear about your boy Simba, eventhough this is an old post.
My own Golden, Oska, had to be put to sleep on 13/11/13 after suffering from seizures for just over a year. After a very exhausting year of trying everything to help him, in the end nothing worked. Sadly this seems to be the case for many Golden Retrievers and many are dying far too young.
Welcome to the Forum, RetrieverGirl88. I'm so sorry for your loss of your sweet Oska.

I encourage you to start a Rainbow Bridge thread to share photos of and stories about her. Many here will understand and support you in your loss.

You are also welcome in the seizure sub-forum. We learn from one another about many things, not least of them how to cope with losing our fur-kids to this bitter enemy.

Peace be with you.
 

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Sme happened to me 2 days ago...

Sorry to revive this thread but i was searching for similar experiences to mine and i found this, look, my dog had supposedly epilepsy, he was very young, 3 years old when he died and the episodes started in december (last year) and i took him to the vet and he told me that he probably had epilepsy because he could not see anything wrong in him and he NEVER told me seizures could cause death, i took it home and then 1 week later he has another one, i take him again and he tells me the same ****, i told him that i thought he needed medicationd and he tells me that he does not need it because i need to wait to see if the episodes start to decrese... so i TRUSTED HIM.

Long story short, he had seizures every week then every two weeks and then he has a month without one but suddenly they started again at 1 episode per week, and all this time im telling the vet that i think he needs the medication and he tells me that he dosent BUT he can prescribe it to him if i want to and since im no expert I TRUST HIM AGAIN and i decide to not medicate him... i started searching for an specialist to run test on my dog a Neurologist or something, its rare because where i live there is not really a lot of places to take your dog, and i find one but the problem is i dont have the money and my parents over react when i told them the dog needed this tests, like i know they are not rich but seriously he needed this... my mother once saw my dog when he starts to get a seizure, thet period when the dog falls and all their body starts to get very tense and do scary howls and scary faces and she cried and she understood how bad he was, so she told my dad to take us to run test for him but... im sorry but he is a piece of **** he didnt, he always has to get his way, he wanted to take him to a faculty where i was going to get a discount but the catch was that he was going to be trated by students with the supervision of "doctors", and i say, **** no!!!, my dog is not a toy and not a test subject, what he has is serious and i want him fine... so he didnt wanted to take us and i could not take him myslef because i dont have a car, he was huge, he was an alaskan malamute, taxis?, i dont think so because even if i found someone kind to take us retrievig him home after god knows what test he was going to endure was going to be impossible...

Two days ago he had his last seizure... he died during this one, he had it in a very ****** place where he was hitting himself and i went dow ASAP and moved him from that place but like 6 seconds after i moved him he stopped moving and i thought that the seizure had ended... but no, his life was over.

I am so sad and i feel really guilty about this and i cant believe that piece of **** vet never told me that seizures could cause death, if i knew that i wouldnt have waited all this time thinking that they were "harmless" and i would have done something seriously.

I hate myself.
 

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Two days ago he had his last seizure... he died during this one, he had it in a very ****** place where he was hitting himself and i went dow ASAP and moved him from that place but like 6 seconds after i moved him he stopped moving and i thought that the seizure had ended... but no, his life was over.

I am so sad and i feel really guilty about this and i cant believe that piece of **** vet never told me that seizures could cause death, if i knew that i wouldnt have waited all this time thinking that they were "harmless" and i would have done something seriously.

I hate myself.
I'm so so sorry to hear about the loss of your dog Fenrir. You obviously loved him very very much. I know how distressing seizures are having had a cat and a family member have epileptic fits. Your vet should have informed you of the risks involved and given him adequate treatment.

I do believe your Vet was probably negligent, to not have done anything for him. I'm sure he could have prescribed a benzodiazepine and anti-epileptics however your dog may still have passed away from the condition.

Thinking of you and sending hugs. Don't feel guilty, it really sounds like you fought hard by going back to the Vets several times.
 

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Don't hate yourself. You were not in control of the finances, first, and secondly,
you were not aware that often when students are on your case you get fabulous care. The students do NOT use the dog as a test subject, they are toeing the line to be a wonderful practitioner in every single case- something (as you know) you do not always get w a practitioner. If I can go to a veterinary school for anything at all, I do. It's a better standard of care in many cases.
Again, don't hate yourself. I'm sorry for your loss. Seizures are scary and it could be that your dog might have passed away even with medication. That doesn't help your heart, I know, but do something to honor him- plant a tree, or make a donation to GRFoundation in his name. That should ease the pain somewhat.
Try to forgive your parents. They, like everyone else, were just trying to do the right thing. From a place of lack of knowledge, their 'right thing' wasn't right- but for all we know, they were balancing feeding small children with getting care for your dog. And your father did try to do the best thing he knew- and as it happens, it is a very good thing to go to a veterinary college for care. Again, I am sorry.
 

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I just feel really bad, but thank you for your words, i cant do anything now and to be honest the good thing about this crap is that atleast he is not suffering anymore, i mean outside of those seizures he was a normal dog, but having those each week or so was a traumatizing experience for him and for us, i hope if there is something after life he is in peace and whenever i go there which is for sure, first thing im gonna do is look for him, not gonna get anymore dogs or pets or anything, no one is replacing my Fenris (was his name).

I leave a picture of him below:
 

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Aw Fenris was a very handsome dog. I'm so so sorry for your loss.

Epilepsy can be fatal so Vets should inform owners of that.

You did absolutely everything you could though, it's not your fault in any way. When you feel ready you might like to write down all the great memories you have of him, look through pics of his best days and maybe make a little memorial if you like.

Don't be put off getting new pets for the rest of your life, your heart will make room for another pet if you get one and you can honour Fenris by looking after a new pet.
 

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just lost my golden this morning. this is very hard for me.. he's 8.5 yrs old. very active and loyal dog, his name is simba.
last few months he's having a large lump on his lips, so i took him to the vet and decide to have it remove. so on feb 12 2011 he's having his surgery. came home fine, 24 hours later acting normally. but on feb 20 he's having his first seizure. he pee everywhere, but only last for less then a minute. never had seizure before, i dont even know what it is!!!
then this seizure become a habit. happened every 10-14 days, all last only for a minute, then he got up, drank and ate.
i did alot of reseach on dog seizure and my vet said its up to me whether to give him medicine or not, cause it only happened twice or 3 times a month.
then i thought this seizure medication have serious affect also on his liver, so i decided not to give him any medicine, just organic multivitamin and some fish oil. i thought if it happened more than twice a week then i would start giving him penobarbital.
then this morning when i wake up i see him still fine, he still walk and drink from his bowl. then 1 hour later he pass away!! he's all stiff already, and i see there's pee and saliva under his body and head, so i figure he's having one when he died..his eyes were still open when i discovered him, so meaning sudden death i guess..
this is very hard for me, i cry for hours now, and i miss him dearly..
i never thought he go away so soon, i know seizure is not life threatening.its just trouble some, but i love him very very much. BUT WHY HE DIE??
any of you have experience this?? is it possible his heart can't take stress from the seizure?? i wont ask my vet because the surgery cause his seizure.. i read before because lack of oxygen during his surgery can damage the nerve and cause his seizure.(actually thinking to run my vet over with my SUV!!!)
but is is possible seizure stop his heart???
i can't tell you how much i miss him, thinking what should i do to prevent it?? i know i gave him good life for 8,5 years. but its just to soon for him.
i think i went thru the same thing only my golden was 13 yrs. and before i put her phenobarbitol she 9 seizures 1 month and next month 5 next thing we knew it she couldn't walk barely got up, i was told to feed her more give her water more but then she got diaherra, barked alot.and died just a we got home and in my hands. had her she was 6wk
 

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I'm sorry for the loss of your dog. 13 is a good long life for a Golden but it really hurts no matter the age. I hope you find some comfort to have been with her at the end.
 
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