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I am looking into getting another dog, possibly another Golden. We were thinking maybe something that doesn't shed so much but I have to say my heart really belongs to Golden's and I can't see myself having any other breed.

anyway. I have been looking at breeders sites and some of them say I have to spay/neuter at 10 months or no later than 12 months.
I strongly believe in waiting till 18-24 months.
So, what if I got a puppy and didn't neuter it at 10 months what could the breeder do?
Should I try to come to some sort of agreement with the breeder that I would never use the dog as a stud if they agreed to let me wait.
I have no intentions whatsoever to use any of my dogs as studs, Cody included but we do want to be able to wait the 18 months before we neuter.
 

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There are plenty of breeders who believe there are health benifits to waiting until pup is 18-24 months. Keep looking!
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My breeder's contract says that the dog must be spayed or neutered by 12 months. After I got Rookie, I learned a lot about the benefits of waiting a bit longer to neuter. I called my breeder, spoke with her, and she agreed that it would be okay to wait until Rookie was older to neuter him. She just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to breed him.
 

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Why create an unnecessary problem? My advice if you don't want to alter the puppy until a certain age then find a breeder that’s okay with that. If you cannot find the terms agreeable then don't agree to them.
 

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but my question was, what would happen if I bought the puppy and 10 months later I did not neuter it. They couldn't very well just take it away.
 

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Just wondering, but how would the breeder know if you didn't get him neutered until later? Will s/he see your dog a lot? Do you live in the same town?
 

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don't sign a contract you have no intentions of following.
 

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Most reputable breeders will have you sign a sales agreement. Its quite easy to enforce when you are in the same state/province. Reputable breeders take these matters quite seriously and it would not shock me for them to legally enforce what you agreed to. Like I said why if you cannot find the terms agreeable then don't agree to them. JMO and the opinion I am sure of many/most reputable breeders.
 

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no, we don't live close to each other.

Is this a legaly binding contract? no one is really answering my question. I am just getting comments.
 

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Just wondering, but how would the breeder know if you didn't get him neutered until later? Will s/he see your dog a lot? Do you live in the same town?
I request that the Dog and bitch puppies must be nuetered/spayed by XX months of age with written and signed letter from your Vet on his/her letterhead. This letter must be forwarded to the Breeder for records no later than 30 days after the procedure was completed. I am happy to send a reminder email or give you a call a month prior to the XX month birthday.

Yes, in some cases I am sure it would be considered a legally binding contract.
 

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I am wondering if breeders will agree to a non-breeding agreement for late neutering. There is one breeder I am intrested in and I have not asked them if they would reconsider their agreement, but maybe that is something I can request and see what they say.
I really want a registered Golden but I don't want to have to neuter my dog at 10-12 months. I would have to pretty much get a BYB golden if no breeders are flexable.
 

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I am wondering if breeders will agree to a non-breeding agreement for late neutering. There is one breeder I am intrested in and I have not asked them if they would reconsider their agreement, but maybe that is something I can request and see what they say.
I really want a registered Golden but I don't want to have to neuter my dog at 10-12 months. I would have to pretty much get a BYB golden if no breeders are flexable.
I think that many breeders are giving the time-frame to 18 months. I haven't looked lately...but that seems to be within the norm.

I would definately ask the breeder you are interested in and explain why. But ultimately...nuetering a dog produced by a reputable breeder who is concerned about breeding healthy puppies at 12 months is going to be better then nuetering a byb, health-risk dog at 18 months.
 

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It would depend on the contract.Some breeders go to great lengths to write contracts that will hold up in court. The big question in my mind is why you want to know if you might get in trouble but arent willing to try and find the right breeder for you or take the time to discuss spay neuter issues with one you already have? Most good breeders are going to pick up on someone who has no intention of adhering to a contract for whatever reason...you probly won't get a puppy from them!
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I think that many breeders are giving the time-frame to 18 months. I haven't looked lately...but that seems to be within the norm.

I would definately ask the breeder you are interested in and explain why. But ultimately...nuetering a dog produced by a reputable breeder who is concerned about breeding healthy puppies at 12 months is going to be better then nuetering a byb, health-risk dog at 18 months.
I agree, hopefully they will reconsider, their dogs are so nice looking.
 

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Many breeders even those on this forum allow altering at a later age (18-24 months). So if you find a breeder and that's agreeable then I say go for it! Be sure to educate yourself and plan accordingly to have an unaltered male/female. Its not for everyone.
 

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I would not risk loosing my dog by not following through on a contract. If they're not willing to extend the neuter age, I would look for another breeder. Plenty of high quality breeders have older age limits.

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Be sure to educate yourself and plan accordingly to have an unaltered male/female. Its not for everyone.

Yeah...that's the truth. When Lucky was just under a year we had an unspade female move in next door and suddenly that 18 month timeline wasn't important anymore.
 

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but my question was, what would happen if I bought the puppy and 10 months later I did not neuter it. They couldn't very well just take it away.
It may well depend upon what country you're in.

In the U.S. the short answer is no, they can't take the pup back or force you to alter the pup. Under U.S. law, dogs are property, so if you bought it outright (no co-ownership arrangement) it's yours to do with as you see fit.

Keep in mind however that if you choose to not uphold your end of the purchase agreement, the breeder may choose to do the same, including voiding the warranty and terminating any ongoing customer service.
 

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It would depend on the contract.Some breeders go to great lengths to write contracts that will hold up in court. The big question in my mind is why you want to know if you might get in trouble but arent willing to try and find the right breeder for you or take the time to discuss spay neuter issues with one you already have? Most good breeders are going to pick up on someone who has no intention of adhering to a contract for whatever reason...you probly won't get a puppy from them!
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I don't have any issue with the dog I already have. He will be neutered next summer.
I also want another male puppy so breeding the two is not going be an issue.
I also don't want a puppy until next fall, when Cody will have already been neutered.
 
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