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my hubby is going to "surprise" me with a puppy - only i snooped and found out.:) I am concerned the puppy is from a puppy mill. all i know is that the puppy is from Gap or Manheim PA and from Leroy Stotzfus. I know this area is notorius for puppy mills.
I don't want to say anything unless I know for sure. Anyone?

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It not a place I would consider getting my golden from!!! Look into getting a puppy from a reptuable breeder. Don't be in a hurry.
 

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I would try to stop your husband if you can. You would hate to have a "present" that ended up costing you and arm and a leg because it was unhealthy. That is no good for anyone. I'm sure others on here can recommend a good breeder in your area.

Good for you for doing your homework!
 

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I would own up to snooping....your husbands heart is dear and sweet for wanting to surprise you....Im sure you can find a gentle way to let him know you found out and how much you are looking forward to finding the perfect puppy together..
 

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I would. On the Greenfield site you posted it says only the father is hip certified....and only mentions the hips. Nothing about elbows, heart, eyes.

It is a hard decision you have to make. I only say this after having owned a golden with multiple health issues, including having a total hip replacement done at age three.
 

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I'd like to throw in here...

If the pups coming, and there is nothing you can do to stop it now, forget EVERYTHING in this thread. Just get it out of your mind.

He'll be your friend and sweetheart regardless of where he came from. You'll give him a good home, and he'll love you always.

He doesn't know where he came from. He'll just be happy to have a forever home :) And you'll be happy to have him :)
 

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I'd like to throw in here...

If the pups coming, and there is nothing you can do to stop it now, forget EVERYTHING in this thread. Just get it out of your mind.

He'll be your friend and sweetheart regardless of where he came from. You'll give him a good home, and he'll love you always.

He doesn't know where he came from. He'll just be happy to have a forever home :) And you'll be happy to have him :)
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:doh: While every puppy that is born deserves a home as it is not their fault for having been produced by millers, purchasing from puppy mills only furthers their cause. The price paid is usually no less than what a reputable breeding producing puppies from health cleared parents will charge, and often more, not to mention the increased odds that you will be likley to have to put far more into veterinary care.
 

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I'm from Western PA and have been researching breeders in the area. I have found 2 outstanding kennels... one of which has puppies at present.

I'll send you an email...
 

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I can't fathom the "what's done is done" part of this - nothing is set in stone yet. You are choosing a family member - not a piece of jewelry. Fess up to the snooping - Let your husband know that it's a WONDERFUL, thoughtful and loving idea but you want to go into puppy-hood with open eyes and that means doing a bit of research and finding the right puppy...
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Thank you ALL so much!!! In a round about way I was able to find out that it would devaste my hubby to know that I know about his surprise- he has worked SO hard to keep it a secret. So I think I must just leave it alone and take nuttinbut advice. I would ruin everything if I said a word...even my 8 year old has been able to keep it a secret! Thank you all. I will post pics. I will love this dog for who he is.

Thanks again.
 

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Not sure if you meant Stoltzfus.... but that is typically an Amish or Mennonite last name. (At least in PA)
 

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Definitely invest in pet insurance that way at least financially you guys will be ready should the pup have medical issues.
 

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I know your mind is made up, but as I look down at my girl curled up in a ball, I just want you to take a moment to think about where that pup came from. You're not only taking a gamble on this pup's health & temperament (I doubt it was properly socialized) you're also supporting what I consider abuse against the dogs being bred. My girl escaped from a puppy mill at the age of 3.5 yrs only because the miller died in a car accident (talk about what goes around, comes around)...she is forever scarred based on her life there (born in one mill sold to another) she does have her good days but she has a whole lot bad ones that I can't make better. I love her nonetheless & in her own way I think she likes me too, but I can't help but think about what kind of girl she would have been had she had the chance to be a "normal" pup...had she not been born into the hands of a puppy mill. Understand all pups deserve a home, but just think about what you're supporting.
 

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but I can't help but think about what kind of girl she would have been had she had the chance to be a "normal" pup...had she not been born into the hands of a puppy mill.
It's interesting you say that... we often talk the same way about Jonie. Jonie is our current foster who was a breeder dog at a puppy mill. She's made a tremendous amount of progress in the almost three months that she's been here but she of course will have some scars that will follow her the rest of her life. She is turning into a good dog... starting to actually act like a dog. We always talk about how her life could have been so different... how different of a dog she would have been. We are picking up the pieces and she will end her life with a family.... hopefully happy as a pig in poo.... but I cringe thinking about her first 5-7 years living in h*ll.
 

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Yep, while I wonder what kind of gal she could have been, I have to remind myself to stay in the present and work towards her future...I know we spend a lot of time "educating" folks here on the potential pitfalls of purchasing from BYBs & pet stores and the risk they're taking with the puppy, I also don't want people to forget about the breeder dogs left behind to churn out those pups in the pet shops & classified ads.
 

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Mary, while you may think it would devastate your husband to have the "surprise" ruined, I'll bet that it would devastate him even more to know the pathetic and abusive circumstances that this pup is likely coming from. You're looking at a family member who will be with you for 10-15 years. Do you really want an unhealthy and mentally challenged dog as that family member, because that's very likely what you will be getting. In your shoes, I would fess up to knowing what's going on, explain puppy mills to your husband and child(ren) and begin the search for a well-bred golden puppy. I don't think your kids or your husband will be amused when the puppy has to have hip surgery or any of a number of health issues. Please reconsider!!!!
 
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