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At the end of the day, we each have to take our dog home and live with it. Having boarded TONS of labs and TONS of goldens, I'll go home and live with my golden any day.
When I take my dog to an obedience show, I know I walked in the building with the best darn dog there that day, and I know that, regardless of the outcome of the trial, I'm leaving with the best dog, too.
I'll feel that way about JH and/or SH events with my dog, too, if I ever get there. No matter how my dog does, I'm still going home with the best dog there.
And BTW, there are a whole lot more goldens in field events than there are labs in obedience events (at least in this area). Hmmmm......
I have also known and boarded some awesome labs, too, so I'm not slamming the entire breed. But man oh man, I get some wild, hyper, psycho ones, too. We call them blab-ra-dor retrievers because they NEVER stop barking, and also slobber-a-dor retrievers....
I always laugh when a customer says something silly like, "oh, labs and goldens are pretty much the same except one has longer hair, right??"
I take them over to a dog run with a couple labs in it. It's the one with NOTHING in there because the dogs can't be trusted to not chew up and eat every toy, bed, etc., every made. Chances are we have the water in a cement bowl, made especially for labs, and chances are they've still managed to slop it all over anyway. They will be jumping up and down at the gate, barking and slobbering, non-stop.
Then I take them to a dog run with a couple of goldens in it. Their bedding will be elaborate and neat, and there will be a couple of nice toys in with them. The water is in a regular bowl, and not spilled at all. The dogs are sitting quietly at the gate, each with a toy in their mouth, waiting to be acknowledged, each with a little halo over their head.....;)
Okay this is just my two cents and probably not even worth that much.
In every breed you have the good responsible breeders and then you have breeders that on the surface do the "right" things but winning is what matters most. Whether it be conformation, companion or performance venues they all have them. From what I know of the top field dogs, Labs and/or Goldens, there is not one that you would not have as a pet under your roof. Their temperments are great and they have definative on/off switches. This is because these folks and breeders "get it". They understand that from most litters most pups will not be FC/AFCs but all will need to be an important and loved member of the family. The top handlers would not be willing to live or put up with the antics of those that you describe. And I know these dogs exist but it because there are some who are so hell bent on producing "THAT" dog that they let other traits be ignored and over time this is what you get. Dogs who can not turn off , settle or be quiet. And I do not think thiss is limite to "field" dogs at all, it exists in the other venues also. Just my two cents worth.
 

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Happy New Year! well almost and its getting close.
This was my cheap way of trying to get to 15 posts so that I can respond to my private messages. Two are waiting....
 

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I'm sorry if I implied it was only in field bred dogs, that wasn't my intention at all. The dogs I board are 99% from pet families, and I'm sorry to say that a HUGE percentage are from BYB, not from good responsible breeders of any sort, or even breeders who breed to win. They breed to make a few bucks.


Okay this is just my two cents and probably not even worth that much.
In every breed you have the good responsible breeders and then you have breeders that on the surface do the "right" things but winning is what matters most. Whether it be conformation, companion or performance venues they all have them. From what I know of the top field dogs, Labs and/or Goldens, there is not one that you would not have as a pet under your roof. Their temperments are great and they have definative on/off switches. This is because these folks and breeders "get it". They understand that from most litters most pups will not be FC/AFCs but all will need to be an important and loved member of the family. The top handlers would not be willing to live or put up with the antics of those that you describe. And I know these dogs exist but it because there are some who are so hell bent on producing "THAT" dog that they let other traits be ignored and over time this is what you get. Dogs who can not turn off , settle or be quiet. And I do not think thiss is limite to "field" dogs at all, it exists in the other venues also. Just my two cents worth.
 

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Late here, but I have loved this thread. Lots of good info. I am trying out field training with my newest puppy. She comes from field lines. It was never my plan when I got her, but boy is it fun! The training groups I have gone out with have been very nice. And not only am I brining a Golden, but she is not wearing an e-collar! Well, I hope to hear more!
 

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There are hopes of another... his name is often mentioned in my threads and he is only 14 weeks old! We are trying, trying, trying. Cheer us on!
I will be rooting for you! That would be amazing!
 

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I'm sorry if I implied it was only in field bred dogs, that wasn't my intention at all.
I did not think you implied that at all. The reason I added the comment to my post was I did not want it to appear that was what I was implying.
 

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I will be rooting for you! That would be amazing!

We were just talking smack. Frankly, Rooster's primary mission is field work. With, 3 kids of the sports age, I cannot fathom having the time to show him too.
 

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We were just talking smack. Frankly, Rooster's primary mission is field work. With, 3 kids of the sports age, I cannot fathom having the time to show him too.
Awww! I was excited! I want to see another dual champ!
 

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So sad that Sabre passed recently. He was the only CH/QAA golden.
But there was a time back in 2002-2004 that he WAS the GREAT GOLDEN HOPE! Many of us thought it was going to happen.
 
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