I've been showing Goldens in obedience since I was a 4-H kid, but now I'd kind of like to try conformation. I'm not looking to get totally involved in it, I have a family and horses to think of so I don't want to be at a show every weekend. I just want to do a few shows a year for fun. Plus I'd like to breed a couple litters if the dog passes clearances, has good conformation, and has the correct disposition. (As a groomer, I've seen all sorts-from overly hyper to bite your arm off for no good reason.) So I want a dog of high enough quality to be worthy of breeding. I want to breed dogs who have health, temperament, AND beauty. However, I'm having trouble locating breeders, especially breeders willing to work with a person like me. I've found one so far, but I'd like to know of others just so I can kind of compare and become familiar with what's normal. So many breeders turn up there nose at me because I'm "not dedicated enough to show a dog enough to get it titled." I want to show for fun and for learning, and to see how my dog stacks up next to others and get other show people's opinions as to whether or not she is good enough to breed. I don't really care about titles, yes they'd be nice, but I don't want to live at dog shows. In other words I want to learn, but I want to have fun while doing it. It seems like these big breeders have lost the "fun" part and are all about win, win, win and anything they breed also has to win, win, win. How are people supposed to get a start in conformation if nobody is willing to sell them a pup? How are we supposed to enjoy it if its all about winning and being at shows away from family all the time? Sorry for the rant. Anyway, I'm located in central IL; does anybody know of any breeders in IL or near IL who might be willing to sell a show pup?