Best diet for dog with hemangiosarcoma and one dog without

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california gold

Discussion Starter · Mar 5, 2014

Hi All, This question has probably been asked very many times before but I'm just too tired to go thru all the threads. I hope you all understand. My soon to be 9 Golden Girl has just been diagnosed with hemangiosarcoma with a life expectancy of 3 months. This is my 5th Golden under the age of 10 that has got this awful, awful cancer. My first Golden that I got in 1980 lived to be 15. My second one to 13 and all others 7-9 years old. I've fed "good" quality to the latter ones. My first two had pedigree all there lives and lived the longest. I have now decided to try and make their food but there is so much out there, I just don't know where to start. So my question to all of you is do you have a recipe that you could share with me? For feeding them on a daily basis as well as one for treats. It's my understanding when a dog has cancer you don't want to feed them grain but a protein rich diet. Please, can anyone help me? I want to start immediately in hopes maybe I'll get a little more time with my girl. I've started her on herbs as well. Thank you in advance.

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Cuddysmom

· #2 · Mar 6, 2014

I'm so very sorry for your diagnosis. My boy was just diagnosed with the same thing. We were told to take away carbs and go high protein. We immediately switched to Blue Buffalo (no grains at all). $35 for a small bag. I also just boil or grill chicken breasts for him. I also was told liver treats are good. He loves them! But, like another friend here told me, if this really is the end, give him whatever he wants! Spoil him rotten (within reason). I'm torn between putting him in this diet in hopes it buys more time or just giving him his favorite (not so healthy snacks) so he enjoys whatever time he has. It's a crappy, crappy decision. Again, I'm so sorry!

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Cuddysmom

· #3 · Mar 6, 2014

What herbs ate you on?

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artbuc

· #4 · Mar 8, 2014

I lost Buster to hemangio; I feel your pain. By sheer coincidence, I ran into a woman who had a GR in the U of Penn trial. She pulled into the parking lot of Concord Pet the same time I did. She had two drop dead beautiful GR's with her so I just had to ask about her breeder. She went on to tell me about the trial. Her dog had an emergency splenectomy and was given 90 days to live. 2+ years later he is symptom free and doing great. I did not know anything about this herb but did some research and discovered it has shown efficacy in human trials as well and is widely available commercially. This website says median life expectancy was longest at 100mg/kgBW which is true. However, the study results said the difference was not statistically different for the three dosages used.

I'm-Yunity® for dogs | Supplement treatment helping dogs with hemangiosarcoma cancer;

http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/news/...urvival-time-dogs-cancer-penn-vet-study-finds

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california gold

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 10, 2014

Cuddysmom, I too am sorry for the diagnosis on your boy. I've lost 3 other Goldens to this cancer prior to this. One at 7, 8 and 10. Right now, the herbs I've started are Yunnan Baiyo, Wei Qi Booster. Artbuc, I actually have ordered the I'm Yunity and I'm waiting for it to arrive. This is such a prevalent cancer in our Beautiful, Loving Golden's. I was hoping that maybe with so many succumbing to this cancer the researchers would have found a cure.... I've had Golden's since 1980. My first one lived to 15, my second to 13. All the other have died 10 and under. As much as I love this breed, I'm not sure I will get another. Which breaks my heart as I always thought I would have a Golden by my side until the day I left this earth...

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Cuddysmom

· #6 · Mar 10, 2014

We're in the Wei too. 4 a day. And stasis breaker. 8 a day. Do they help? No idea but he's acting great so we'll see

I understand your point about getting another golden. As hard as this past month as been, I can't imagine not getting another one. The 10.5 wonderful years definitely outweigh the past 40 days

Stinks soooooo bad. Omg. Hugs you you!

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california gold

Discussion Starter · #7 · Mar 17, 2014

For the Yunnan Baiyo, I'm making my own capsules. I give 3 a day. For the Wei Qi Booster, it is powder form and I give 3/4 of a scoop (on the small end as it has a big scoop on the other end) twice a day. Also, giving the I'm Yunity, 7 a day, a just started her on Max's formula powder. I also give 2 1000mg of fish oil twice a day and 1 Curcumin 500 with bioperine once a day. Making her food. Ground Beef, Ground Chicken breasts, veggies, eggs, and Dr. Pitcairn's healthy powder. then make it into a meatloaf and bake it. I'm trying to find someone that maybe can help me with the mushroom ingredient of I'm Yunity so I can buy powder form and put into capsules myself. So far I haven't had any luck. My vet is the one who put her on the chinese herbs except for the I'm yunity. She's a firm believer it helps. I sure hope so. Praying for our kids....

Cuddysmom

· #8 · Mar 17, 2014

How's she doing?

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california gold

Discussion Starter · #9 · Mar 25, 2014

Cuddysmom said:
How's she doing?

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Hi cuddysmom, thank you for asking. She's seems to be doing real good. Limping and having little jerking spasms in her front left leg. We haven't found anything in it. But to me it almost seems nerve related. Perhaps something to do with the many IV's she had in the leg may have hit a nerve. I will be talking to her vet this week about it. Maybe she can do acupuncture to help. Her incision looks great. I found a place to order the mushroom ingredient that's in the I'm yunity. He custom makes it and recommended adding reishi powder to it. His name is Steve and the company is willow harvest organics. It's considerably cheaper then the I'm yunity. You add 1 teaspoon twice a day to their food. Very nice guy to work with.

How is your boy doing?

Cuddysmom

· #10 · Mar 26, 2014

I'm glad she's doing well. You are taking such wonderful care of her! That's one lucky pup!

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california gold

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 26, 2014

Thank you for the kind words. I'm hoping that everything I'm doing is the correct thing. I pray at night that god will direct me so that maybe I or one of us will stumble upon a cure for this cancer that takes our precious babies way to soon.

How is Cuddy doing? How are you doing?

Cuddysmom

· #12 · Mar 26, 2014

I'm right there with you. There's NOTHING we can do now, unfortunately. Unless they come up with some kind of cure soon. But hopefully we can find a cure for our next puppies so they don't have to go through this crap. Good thing is that they don't know they're sick. At least I don't believe they do. You're doing the best you can with the crappy hand you were dealt.

Cuddy is doing great, thanks for asking. I feel the herbs really help. As does the protein diet. At least it makes me feel better!

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california gold

Discussion Starter · #13 · Apr 3, 2014

It has been 5 weeks since Bridgette Anne had her surgery. We are thankful for this time with our baby girl. On Friday it will be her 9th birthday. We plan on taking her out to breakfast where you can bring your dogs and sit on the patio. then on a car ride. For now she seems to be doing well but with this cancer it's always in the back of our minds for how long... We love her with all our hearts and pray she has a lot more time with us. We are going to make one of those stepping stones that you buy a kit for with her paw print in her birthday and decorate it with pretty rocks and glass marbles. I'm hoping to get some good photos of her celebrating her special day. To all of you who have gone through or are going through this with your precious ones, my thoughts are with you. And thank you all for the support. It truly is helpful.

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Cuddysmom

· #14 · Apr 3, 2014

Sounds like she's doing well! This post made me smile. Does she get to eat breakfast, too? Happy early birthday little miss!

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california gold

Discussion Starter · #15 · Apr 5, 2014

Happy 9th Birthday Bridgette Anne

Well today Bridgette Anne turned 9! We are so thankful that we still have her with us. Took her to Pet Smart to pick out a toy and I think she was so overwhelmed she didn't know what to do. So we picked out a hedgehog and she is happy with our decision.

I'm going to try and post a picture of her and I in the backyard today.

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california gold

Discussion Starter · #16 · Apr 9, 2014

Last night Bridgette threw up. Yellow bile but with grainy stuff in it. This was about 2 hours after she had dinner. I wouldn't have given this another thought prior to her cancer diagnosis. I had ground up some egg shells and just started giving her a 1/2 teaspoon each meal. I'm wondering if that isn't agreeing with her. Or is it something else.... She had her acupuncture yesterday morning and I will be contacting her vet to see if vomiting ever occurs after acupuncture. She hasn't vomited after previous acupuncture. At least not that I know of. I hate this cancer!!!

Cuddysmom

· #17 · Apr 9, 2014

She's gorgeous!! So happy her birthday was good.

Please let me know what the vet said. Was it only once?

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california gold

Discussion Starter · #18 · Apr 14, 2014

Thanks cuddysmom. Yes,just the once. Since it was just a little the vet didn't think it was a issue. Maybe upset stomach. The weird thing is that ever since her surgery her breath has been foul. I wasn't sure why that would be. So the vet put her on probiotic 123. Going to see if that helps her breath and should help her tummy. Has anyone else had this experience with their dog after having the spleen removed?

Cuddysmom

· #19 · Apr 14, 2014

I've noticed Cuddy's breath is a little worse...

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california gold

Discussion Starter · #20 · Apr 15, 2014

We brush her teeth once a week so she has always had those pearly whites and fresh breath. Her vet will be coming by Wednesday for her weekly acupuncture so we'll see if she notices a difference giving the probiotic. For the most part she is happy and hungry. I miss her coming to the door to greet me. She stays lying down and waits for me to come see her. Also, laying down to sleep in places she never has. Only us "moms and dads" would notice these subtle changes. But she's happy and that's all that matters.

How's cuddy?

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