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What do you know and/or understand about BB Blinds? Do you use them? When...what for?
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Well good. Then we have a basis for a training discussion; something we seldom have here. I'll post up again in the morning.I have been "taught" BB blinds from several sources but could not fully explain "why" we run them.
Mike spent a bit less time at Carr's than I did, so it's likely that when he saw BB Blinds he only saw them used for maintenance. That's certainly a good thing. But it isn't the only use for them. Primarily, I use them as my first Transition drill after Pattern Blinds to work toward cold blinds.Hi Evan, I do have a question. I saw BB blinds run at a Mike Lardy seminar, the way he explained it was not so much as a transitional tool to phase to cold blinds but rather as a way to get in a lot of cold blinds in one lesson, as to correct a problem that only shows up on cold blinds (i.e. looping sits, flaring, whatever). Maybe I misunderstood him and that was the only take-home message I got, who knows. That did make sense to me though.
I used to. I think most of us used to do that, and many still do. I devised a new drill that I believe is far more efficient called Four Phase Drill. Each phase is a standard diversion mark concept. It looks like this, and is based on a 100-yard pre-identified pile with a moving gun.My question is, in your training scheme, after teaching pattern blinds do you then come and do pattern blind with diversions with a gunner in the field, so you can get some handling in on your pattern blinds?
I find that if you run the drill right, and adequately separate the BB and bumper, the dog soon comes to ignore the BB. If he doesn't, there is something wrong with how you're running the drill. The sole purpose of the BB is to plant blinds, not influence how the dog runs the drill.If so is the dog then distracted by the bird boy when running BB blinds which I would presume would be your next step after pattern blinds with diversions? Or does the dog say "oh no, I'm not to head toward that guy, I just learned that"? At any rate do you find that the BB affects the dog either by drawing the dog to or away from the planted bumper?
As mentioned above, I also use them for maintenance and problem solving.Do you use BB blinds solely as a means for transitioning from the pattern blind field to cold blinds, or do you revisit BB blinds later in the dog's training?
Thanks for your input.
Thanks for the reply. With Fisher I taught our pattern blinds (3 on a field, length of 125-200 yds), then went to a smaller field and did chair drills which were very much like your four phase drill just on a smaller scale. Once the dog understood those we moved back to our pattern blind field to do PBs with diversions. Oh my what a light turned on with Fisher when we put that all together. It was so fun and amazing to see!Mike spent a bit less time at Carr's than I did, so it's likely that when he saw BB Blinds he only saw them used for maintenance. That's certainly a good thing. But it isn't the only use for them. Primarily, I use them as my first Transition drill after Pattern Blinds to work toward cold blinds.I used to. I think most of us used to do that, and many still do. I devised a new drill that I believe is far more efficient called Four Phase Drill. Each phase is a standard diversion mark concept. It looks like this, and is based on a 100-yard pre-identified pile with a moving gun.
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I find that if you run the drill right, and adequately separate the BB and bumper, the dog soon comes to ignore the BB. If he doesn't, there is something wrong with how you're running the drill. The sole purpose of the BB is to plant blinds, not influence how the dog runs the drill.As mentioned above, I also use them for maintenance and problem solving.
EvanG
That's the Basic Handling DVD.You know I think I have the DVD too -- I remember watching T/TT on video so if it's on that one I've got it. Will have to revisit!
Have you had a chance to run some BB Blinds yet?I think I will try BB blinds once the weather cools down and I can feel safe doing a lot of reps at once. We are still in the mid-90s even at 6 pm. We do a set of marks and one or two blinds then back in the car with AC on.
Thanks again for your explanations!