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Great to hear that Gower's putting his foot down now!

Ha...I know exactly what you mean about rolling on the grass! Eva does that all the time. I haven't stopped her as she waves her legs in the air and doesn't seem to be straining her poorly one...and she's so happy to have a bit of freedom, despite her being on the lead!

Her ankle swelling..well more like a bag of water in there, just lasted for a day. I massage her leg 3 times a day, apply warm packs (not cold now) and do gentle passive stretches. When she's standing still and/or sniffing something on our short walks I nudge her weight over to her poorly leg 15 times. I can see her muscle tense as I do it. It might be working. Now without me nudging her I can see that her toes have spread more, so more weight might be getting there. Tuesday is our physio consulting day. It's a 45 min drive away, I expect I'll be doing it once a week for a few months.

It's getting hot here now (yes, in England!) high 80's, so I may bring back the ice packs...might use one myself!

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Great to hear that Gower's putting his foot down now!

Ha...I know exactly what you mean about rolling on the grass! Eva does that all the time. I haven't stopped her as she waves her legs in the air and doesn't seem to be straining her poorly one...and she's so happy to have a bit of freedom, despite her being on the lead!

Her ankle swelling..well more like a bag of water in there, just lasted for a day. I massage her leg 3 times a day, apply warm packs (not cold now) and do gentle passive stretches. When she's standing still and/or sniffing something on our short walks I nudge her weight over to her poorly leg 15 times. I can see her muscle tense as I do it. It might be working. Now without me nudging her I can see that her toes have spread more, so more weight might be getting there. Tuesday is our physio consulting day. It's a 45 min drive away, I expect I'll be doing it once a week for a few months.

It's getting hot here now (yes, in England!) high 80's, so I may bring back the ice packs...might use one myself!

Best wishes
I am in Florida - so I am not minding the limited walks right now and outdoor time it’s miserable some days when I attempt to walk Gower in the high 90s.

Gower’s swelling is down. I’ve started heat today, with some passive range of motion, then ice. Seems to be doing well, we’ve expended the pen a bit during the day time, and he is now standing to eat his food rather then laying down. Making progress we go next Monday to get stitches out.

how did the physio consult go?
 

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Yep, we're to hit mid 90s this weekend and I'm not minding the short walks either! We do them at 7am, then 6pm and 9pm to avoid the heat.

The physio went well, thank you. Her walking is exactly where it should be right now. But her favouring her other leg when standing etc is something that'll need work. So, we called the surgeon for "permission" to do a trial go at hydrotherapy right away, which we got. So, Eva got to paddle (chest deep) for 15 mins on a treadmill! She wasn't happy at first but once we found a tennis ball to float ahead of her she started to relax.

We also got more exercises to do like walking over poles and repetitions of sitting/standing. Nothing too strenuous for now but her leg muscle is about an inch smaller that the other side so it's going to take some time. We start the weekly hydrotherapy in August, just because of availability.

Sounds like Gower's doing well, really pleased to hear that! We let Eva out of the pen during the day too, but she's always on a lead, either tied to me or anywhere convenient. Our kitchen floor is too slippy to let her free there, though I have put rugs down they don't cover everywhere. And in the lounge she'd go straight up on the sofa without a moments thought!

We can stop the passive movements now. The consultant tested how her leg was extending and was very happy. All I need to do now is check it every few days to make sure there's no decline
So, next milestone is the X-rays in 3 or 4 weeks...I need to book that in.

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Yep, we're to hit mid 90s this weekend and I'm not minding the short walks either! We do them at 7am, then 6pm and 9pm to avoid the heat.

The physio went well, thank you. Her walking is exactly where it should be right now. But her favouring her other leg when standing etc is something that'll need work. So, we called the surgeon for "permission" to do a trial go at hydrotherapy right away, which we got. So, Eva got to paddle (chest deep) for 15 mins on a treadmill! She wasn't happy at first but once we found a tennis ball to float ahead of her she started to relax.

We also got more exercises to do like walking over poles and repetitions of sitting/standing. Nothing too strenuous for now but her leg muscle is about an inch smaller that the other side so it's going to take some time. We start the weekly hydrotherapy in August, just because of availability.

Sounds like Gower's doing well, really pleased to hear that! We let Eva out of the pen during the day too, but she's always on a lead, either tied to me or anywhere convenient. Our kitchen floor is too slippy to let her free there, though I have put rugs down they don't cover everywhere. And in the lounge she'd go straight up on the sofa without a moments thought!

We can stop the passive movements now. The consultant tested how her leg was extending and was very happy. All I need to do now is check it every few days to make sure there's no decline
So, next milestone is the X-rays in 3 or 4 weeks...I need to book that in.

Best wishes!
That is great, I am glad it went well. How many weeks will you go for?

We might try taking him out for a 5-10 minute walk before bed tonight on the sidewalk - right now is outdoor time is just to go potty but it is all on grass and I’d like to see him start walking on a more stable ground at least once a day. I don’t want to over do it though, so we shall see how he is feeling.

if I let him out he’s jump on the couch or go up the stairs first chance he gets. Even at night when he is locked in his pen I put things on the couch to block it so if by some chance he got out he can’t get up the stairs or couch. We have tile floor but I’ve put rugs everywhere he is right now so no chance of slipping. I wish we could have the flooring downstairs redone for his sake I get so paranoid as he gets older. I guess buying rugs for the whole house would be cheaper.

He is starting to get very excited and back to his normal self so I am not ready to expand the pen much as we are only one week since surgery.

We have a cruise booked for October and Gower will stay at my mom’s and my sister lives there and has two young crazy Golden’s and tile floor. So I want him at a good place by then, and also need to express the fact he needs to be sectioned off 90 % of the time. I was hesitant to still go on the trip, but I know they know the importance of keeping him safe. Just will be more difficult for them.
 

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That is great, I am glad it went well. How many weeks will you go for?

We might try taking him out for a 5-10 minute walk before bed tonight on the sidewalk - right now is outdoor time is just to go potty but it is all on grass and I’d like to see him start walking on a more stable ground at least once a day. I don’t want to over do it though, so we shall see how he is feeling.

if I let him out he’s jump on the couch or go up the stairs first chance he gets. Even at night when he is locked in his pen I put things on the couch to block it so if by some chance he got out he can’t get up the stairs or couch. We have tile floor but I’ve put rugs everywhere he is right now so no chance of slipping. I wish we could have the flooring downstairs redone for his sake I get so paranoid as he gets older. I guess buying rugs for the whole house would be cheaper.

He is starting to get very excited and back to his normal self so I am not ready to expand the pen much as we are only one week since surgery.

We have a cruise booked for October and Gower will stay at my mom’s and my sister lives there and has two young crazy Golden’s and tile floor. So I want him at a good place by then, and also need to express the fact he needs to be sectioned off 90 % of the time. I was hesitant to still go on the trip, but I know they know the importance of keeping him safe. Just will be more difficult for them.
Forgot to mention we bought a set of 4 poles last year as the vet suggested we keep them up in the house and have him do them daily. So in a few weeks we will brings those back out and do them with him once a day.
 

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Hi, we've booked in 4 hydrotherapy sessions and will probably book another 4 later on and see how we're getting on.
Also, there's a more local but less specialist hydrotherapy place which we could use if things look to be heading in the right direction.
She's still not putting much weight on her leg when standing and I don't think there's been any improvement, which is quite depressing. Part of me is thinking there's something else going on, as her symptoms weren't exactly typical to start with. But we'll keep walking further (at 15 mins now), we've got the x-ray on 1st August and then the physio and hydrotherapy... surely there'll be some improvement soon...?

I'm letting Eva out of the pen during the day now, just downstairs and I've blocked off the sofas and stairs. I've put rugs on the slippy floors too. And she's always on a lead around the garden....I don't trust her that much!

How's Gower doing now? Are you using the poles? We do once a day too, just for 3 or 4 mins. She barely notices them...no problems as long as she's moving. It's just the standing... ☹
 

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Glad to hear Eva is doing well. Hopefully it’s nothing more serious, we are walking about 5-15 minute walks not very far distances just depends how slow he wants to go. I worry about his other leg still seems uneasy from his last surgery, but I’ve been noticing him standing on the surgery leg when lifting his leg to go to the bathroom it shakes but at least he’s using it. We haven’t started the poles, maybe next week I think I read poles should be at 3 weeks. Have you tried the exercises lifting her opposite front leg? I’ve read that will force them to put weight on the surgical leg



We go to get his stitches out tomorrow, the incision is looking good, then in another 6 weeks we will go do X-rays. Does Eva’s knee click when you did passive range of motion? Gower’s does, and it makes me nervous but his other knee also did that. I’m not sure if it’s normal or not.

Did the physio place say anything about her not putting much weight on the leg?
 

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Glad to hear Eva is doing well. Hopefully it’s nothing more serious, we are walking about 5-15 minute walks not very far distances just depends how slow he wants to go. I worry about his other leg still seems uneasy from his last surgery, but I’ve been noticing him standing on the surgery leg when lifting his leg to go to the bathroom it shakes but at least he’s using it. We haven’t started the poles, maybe next week I think I read poles should be at 3 weeks. Have you tried the exercises lifting her opposite front leg? I’ve read that will force them to put weight on the surgical leg



We go to get his stitches out tomorrow, the incision is looking good, then in another 6 weeks we will go do X-rays. Does Eva’s knee click when you did passive range of motion? Gower’s does, and it makes me nervous but his other knee also did that. I’m not sure if it’s normal or not.

Did the physio place say anything about her not putting much weight on the leg?
Oh yes, I forgot to mention that..! I was doing PROMs with Eva and there was a loud click from her knee! It scared the life out of me but she was fine and there were no after effects. I wasn't forcing her knee at all, just guiding it, so was pretty sure it couldn't be anything serious. Hasn't done it since...

Because it's so hot here now (104f) forecasted for today, Eva's only having two walks a day so I've slightly I increased the time to between 15 and 20 mins. To be fair most of the time she's sniffing around. And when she's in a sniff heaven I'll nudge her weight 15 times and then hold for 15 seconds to her surgery leg. There's a lot less shaking of her leg when she's going to the toilet...so perhaps somethings working. And while on the subject, when she's done something she's particularly proud of and kicks dirt up in the air, she's doing it with her surgery leg too and it's with a lot more strength that she used to. Funny all things things we notice! I wasn't sure whether to stop her but she wasn't doing it in the early days and is gradually picking up strength now, but she's still being cautious, so I'm letting her.

The physio said that she should be putting more weight on her leg but her muscles were smaller than the other side. So, we ran through the exercises we should be doing, including repeating sit to stand, nudging to her weak leg and feeding her snacks in a way she has to turn her head around to the right, which puts weight on her left. I've got 6x2 planks and bricks so have made an obstacle course in the garden too. So, a couple more weeks and then back for X-rays. Hoping to see some progress by then.
 

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That all sounds like good progress! It’s a lot of work, but putting it in now will help her be even stronger. And the hydrotherapy should help! Each day they’ll get stronger!

Gower got his stitches out, it looks good a few scapes which I get nervous about infection but I’m keeping him from licking them and still using the cone at night, he has a soft fold one so it’s not bad. I wish his rehab appointment was sooner, but we are almost there 2 weeks to go. I just wish they hadn’t of moved locations being 10 minutes away was so much more convenient. There are two home therapy places but I called one last time and wasn’t impressed, so we will see how often we will take him to the other place.

I submitted Gowers claims to his pet insurance and they actually ended up covering 90% of the surgery after we met the deductible. we had signed him up for the insurance last September and I knew obviously his other leg would be considered a pre-existing condition and if anything happened with that they wouldn’t cover it but I thought I had read that the other leg would also be a pre-existing condition because of having the surgery on the other one but they ended up covering it so that’s good just with the rehab though the rehab isn’t till 8/2 and I don’t know if they have like a package rehab there where you pay for everything upfront that’s what it was at their old location but now they’re part of a new practice gowers like policy resets at the end of August and we have a high deductible to have a lower premium as I just got it for emergencies and all the scary things that can come up , I don’t know how the pet insurance will cover the rehab but we’ll see I mean we expected them to cover nothing so any bit helps.
 

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That all sounds like good progress! It’s a lot of work, but putting it in now will help her be even stronger. And the hydrotherapy should help! Each day they’ll get stronger!

Gower got his stitches out, it looks good a few scapes which I get nervous about infection but I’m keeping him from licking them and still using the cone at night, he has a soft fold one so it’s not bad. I wish his rehab appointment was sooner, but we are almost there 2 weeks to go. I just wish they hadn’t of moved locations being 10 minutes away was so much more convenient. There are two home therapy places but I called one last time and wasn’t impressed, so we will see how often we will take him to the other place.

I submitted Gowers claims to his pet insurance and they actually ended up covering 90% of the surgery after we met the deductible. we had signed him up for the insurance last September and I knew obviously his other leg would be considered a pre-existing condition and if anything happened with that they wouldn’t cover it but I thought I had read that the other leg would also be a pre-existing condition because of having the surgery on the other one but they ended up covering it so that’s good just with the rehab though the rehab isn’t till 8/2 and I don’t know if they have like a package rehab there where you pay for everything upfront that’s what it was at their old location but now they’re part of a new practice gowers like policy resets at the end of August and we have a high deductible to have a lower premium as I just got it for emergencies and all the scary things that can come up , I don’t know how the pet insurance will cover the rehab but we’ll see I mean we expected them to cover nothing so any bit helps.
Hi, how’s things?

I haven’t heard of soft fold cones,I’ll look into those. Though Eva has never had a problem with cones….I don’t think she’s quite smart enough to know it’s really there!

Eva had dissolving stitches so we didn’t have to do anything there. And now, the new hair is almost covering up the scar.

I think we’re making progress with her putting more weight on her leg when she’s just standing. We’ve been doing all the suggested exercises and now when I nudge her rear weight to the left leg, there are times when I don’t need to as she’s already standing straight and even. She still hobbles for a moment after she’s been resting, but it’s not so severe.

I’m not sure if this a good sign or not…but…. Eva has a thing about humping me if I stand close to my wife and sons and laughing! It’s not aggressive, she’s always done it, we’ve tried to stop her, but if she thinks we’re having fun she wants to join in too and I think she just gets over excited. Anyway, this weekend, without warning she jumped up and started humping me. Obviously I shouted at her and she got off but her leg seemed fine! And she also got onto the sofa yesterday when I wasn’t looking. I lifted her back down. Anyway, neither events caused any problems.

So I think her leg must be feeling better, but that means I need to be even more vigilant, just at the time when it’s tempting to relax! She’s still always on the lead in the garden and we won’t change anything until the X-rays, which are in a week’s time.

So pleased to hear your insurance company paid, that’s great news! Mine covers up to £1000 of rehab out of a separate limit. So up to £7000 a year on usual medical stuff, plus £1000 on rehab. Good job too as I we’re getting close to the limit now…I just hope the other knee doesn’t go for 6 months when it renews. I wonder what they’ll put the premiums up to. It’s already £50 a month…worth every penny though!

So, a week until the X-rays, fingers crossed they’ll be okay and then I’m starting to feel there’s light at the end of this tunnel. We were all (inc Eva) meant to go on vacation to a cottage by the sea on 13th August, but we cancelled it a couple of months ago as we just didn’t know how she’d be. I still think it was the right decision, but I could do with a break! My wife and son are going abroad for a week instead and leaving me with Eva and our other son. At least we should be able to go on some longer walks by then. That’s me and Eva, my 19yr old student son doesn’t really get out of bed unless he has to!
 

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Hi, how’s things?

I haven’t heard of soft fold cones,I’ll look into those. Though Eva has never had a problem with cones….I don’t think she’s quite smart enough to know it’s really there!

Eva had dissolving stitches so we didn’t have to do anything there. And now, the new hair is almost covering up the scar.

I think we’re making progress with her putting more weight on her leg when she’s just standing. We’ve been doing all the suggested exercises and now when I nudge her rear weight to the left leg, there are times when I don’t need to as she’s already standing straight and even. She still hobbles for a moment after she’s been resting, but it’s not so severe.

I’m not sure if this a good sign or not…but…. Eva has a thing about humping me if I stand close to my wife and sons and laughing! It’s not aggressive, she’s always done it, we’ve tried to stop her, but if she thinks we’re having fun she wants to join in too and I think she just gets over excited. Anyway, this weekend, without warning she jumped up and started humping me. Obviously I shouted at her and she got off but her leg seemed fine! And she also got onto the sofa yesterday when I wasn’t looking. I lifted her back down. Anyway, neither events caused any problems.

So I think her leg must be feeling better, but that means I need to be even more vigilant, just at the time when it’s tempting to relax! She’s still always on the lead in the garden and we won’t change anything until the X-rays, which are in a week’s time.

So pleased to hear your insurance company paid, that’s great news! Mine covers up to £1000 of rehab out of a separate limit. So up to £7000 a year on usual medical stuff, plus £1000 on rehab. Good job too as I we’re getting close to the limit now…I just hope the other knee doesn’t go for 6 months when it renews. I wonder what they’ll put the premiums up to. It’s already £50 a month…worth every penny though!

So, a week until the X-rays, fingers crossed they’ll be okay and then I’m starting to feel there’s light at the end of this tunnel. We were all (inc Eva) meant to go on vacation to a cottage by the sea on 13th August, but we cancelled it a couple of months ago as we just didn’t know how she’d be. I still think it was the right decision, but I could do with a break! My wife and son are going abroad for a week instead and leaving me with Eva and our other son. At least we should be able to go on some longer walks by then. That’s me and Eva, my 19yr old student son doesn’t really get out of bed unless he has to!
Everything here seems to be going okay, we are back up to doing longer walks gower has always been a slow walker the past few years with his age and arthritis a 45 minute walk with him is sometimes only a mile he likes to stop and look around and is very stubborn if we don’t go the way he wants he won’t go. We went on a 30 minute walk Sunday he was done before we got home, laid down twice I think it was more so the heat. Certain areas he just loves to lay down and roll on the grass regardless so we try to avoid those areas or our walks will take forever. He walks with a slight limp but seems to be fine. He even kicked the dirt back after going to the bathroom the other day. However when he is just standing you can tell he doesn’t put full weight on the leg and holds it up a bit. We put the cones with the poles up for him to go over everyday when we take him out and he is doing good on those.

We go to his first rehab appointment next Tuesday so we will say what they say. I try to do the range of motion exercises with his leg and he pulls back so seems it’s not as lame. I may start trying a few more things at home with him this week for rehab to keep building up.

I’m glad Eva seems to be putting more weight on. It will be good to get the X-rays next week to see how she is healing. It’s good to hear she is acting more like herself. I know gower loves to hump my sisters golden so I worry about what next time we go to visit my moms.

I am sorry you had to cancel your trip to the sea I know you mentioned that originally. Hopefully next year Eva will be even better and ready to go. Hopefully you and Eva will get to enjoy some long walks together if the weather cools down there, does it get cooler at night? My sisters husband is from North Wales and my sisters in laws live over there and they have talked about how warm it is places. Maybe even get your son to go on one or two walks with you.
 

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Everything here seems to be going okay, we are back up to doing longer walks gower has always been a slow walker the past few years with his age and arthritis a 45 minute walk with him is sometimes only a mile he likes to stop and look around and is very stubborn if we don’t go the way he wants he won’t go. We went on a 30 minute walk Sunday he was done before we got home, laid down twice I think it was more so the heat. Certain areas he just loves to lay down and roll on the grass regardless so we try to avoid those areas or our walks will take forever. He walks with a slight limp but seems to be fine. He even kicked the dirt back after going to the bathroom the other day. However when he is just standing you can tell he doesn’t put full weight on the leg and holds it up a bit. We put the cones with the poles up for him to go over everyday when we take him out and he is doing good on those.

We go to his first rehab appointment next Tuesday so we will say what they say. I try to do the range of motion exercises with his leg and he pulls back so seems it’s not as lame. I may start trying a few more things at home with him this week for rehab to keep building up.

I’m glad Eva seems to be putting more weight on. It will be good to get the X-rays next week to see how she is healing. It’s good to hear she is acting more like herself. I know gower loves to hump my sisters golden so I worry about what next time we go to visit my moms.

I am sorry you had to cancel your trip to the sea I know you mentioned that originally. Hopefully next year Eva will be even better and ready to go. Hopefully you and Eva will get to enjoy some long walks together if the weather cools down there, does it get cooler at night? My sisters husband is from North Wales and my sisters in laws live over there and they have talked about how warm it is places. Maybe even get your son to go on one or two walks with you.
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Yes, it's still pretty hot/warm here and spoiling all the preconceptions of UK weather, it hasn't rained where I am (just North of London) for over a month!
Wow...you are ahead of us on the walking times! We're still at 15 min 3 times a day. And have been told to stay there for another week. :(
We went for our 6 week X-ray yesterday. All as it should be. The bone hasn't healed yet but it's on the way and the plates and screws are exactly where they were. So all those lapses like jumping on the sofa, a dash in the garden and now several humping incidents hasn't caused an issue, phew!
But (there's always a but!) since she's been home she not putting much weight on the leg. It's like we've gone back a month. I guess the muscles are sore from all the pulling and manipulating they must have done during the checking and X-rays. Our surgeon did a thorough investigation before they took off Eva. And I've just tried taking her for a walk but we just got down the street and she wanted to turn back. Hmm...
And the anaesthetic messed her up. She wet herself 3 times at home yesterday and pooped on the carpet 😬 The washing machine hasn't stopped running! She seems okay in that department today (apart from the not walking).
The surgeon said we can increase walking by 5 mins next week and then 5 more minutes every two weeks. Then, at 12 weeks we have 5 mins of off lead and build up in the same way. But basically at 12 weeks (6 weeks from now) we can walk as much as we want.

How's Gower doing, is he putting more weight on his leg now? Hope the rehab appointment goes well.
 

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I called the surgeon and told him about the setbacks. He thinks her muscles probably weren't used to the manipulating they did and the effects should wear off by the end of the week, if not then I should call back.
He was surprised to hear about the incontinence, said that's not unheard of but it's not common. And I've I realised now why she was wet when I collected her after her first x-ray...I thought it was just water!
 

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I called the surgeon and told him about the setbacks. He thinks her muscles probably weren't used to the manipulating they did and the effects should wear off by the end of the week, if not then I should call back.
He was surprised to hear about the incontinence, said that's not unheard of but it's not common. And I've I realised now why she was wet when I collected her after her first x-ray...I thought it was just water!
I am glad to hear the X-rays at least show she’s making progress where she should be at this time. Gower to as also made his way on the sofa just once though, we cover the sofa at all times when we aren’t sitting there and right now I have my computer set up downstairs just in the living room so I can be with gower and my husband forgot to move the chair we have blocking it back and I hadn’t realized and he jumped right on up happy as could be haha I feel bad not allowing him on the coach but we have to do what is best for them. I am ready for gower to be able to do the stairs that way I can move my desk out of the living room and back to my office upstairs. How is she doing today? Is she still having issues with going to the bathroom on herself or inside?

The place we take gower to for his surgery actually does the X-rays for the follow up not under anesthesia which I prefer that health wise but it’s not the most clear image and might of been why there was some discrepancies of the follow X-rays last time.

With the walks according to our guide from her vet gower is fine to be doing 20-30 minute walks he doesn’t seem to be in pain at all and is actually wanting to walk he has a slight limp but when we are walking is actually when we see him putting weight on the leg. But we took him to his rehab consult today, and she said he should be walking 5 minute walks 2-3 times a day, which I don’t agree with at all.

I am very conflicted after our rehabilitation consultant obviously gower has a lot of other issues due to his age and having arthritis so we are also dealing with that on top of the cruciate tear so we always know we will have to provide extra care for all that overall she said he is doing good but isn’t bearing much weight on the surgery leg, and that is causing him more pain in his shoulders and spine and hips with the arthritis. They actually do a stance analysis these are his results I guess typically the front legs ideally should be 30/30 and backs 20/20 but he is putting a lot of weight in that left side which isn’t great for his arthritis and knee on that leg.

Stance Analysis Performed
LF:24
RF:35
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The exam took over an hour and a half this vet is very in depth which I like, and I know she truly cares but we weren’t able to be in the building with him they don’t have the space and don’t allow anyone inside which I don’t like as we where able to be at all his rehab appointments before. She wants his treatment plan to be 1-2 times a week for 3 weeks to go there for underwater treadmill, cold laser therpy, and then a chiropractor adjustment as they have a dog chiropractor there and then after 3 weeks they will do a recheck. It’s a bit pricy if we did once a week for 3 weeks it’s $721 I believe insurance would cover it, but it also comes to scheduling and driving there, it’s about an Hr and 15 minutes away so basically that’s about 3.5 hours we’d have to account for and that’s if we go middle of the day if we went for a later appointment we’d run into a lot of traffic which Orlando, Florida traffic is not I want to be a part of. There schedule is also very tight and luckily my husband days off are during the week, and mine the typically weekend so we can alternate who goes since they do have weekend appointments available. Part of the treatment plan they also want him on 3 pain medications plus arthritis injections which we currently do once a month, but adding the 3 pain medications long term I don’t think we are there yet. One that she prescribed I’ve tried to research and there isn’t much out there on it. She wants him on gabepintin which he’s been on long term for a bit, but she also wants us to put him back on Carprofen for 2 weeks then as needed, the new one she wants us to add is Amantadine which I can’t find much about in dogs. I get nervous with all these medications as they can do damage to his kidneys and I’m already a worrier and I feel he’s been drinking more water lately , and I just read into it all too much maybe. We didn’t give him any of the medications yet, I’ll try to do some more research tomorrow.

In terms of the rehab I’m torn if I want to take him there honestly - I love the vet, but I also feel it’s just so far and it just doesn’t seem like they are going to be doing much - we have a vet who does cold laser therapy 5 minutes away from our house, and we did find a chiropractor about 30 minutes away that is a bit cheaper, and in the opposite direction where traffic isn’t as bad. Plus I don’t love pushing all the medications, I know eventually he will need to be on something but right now I think we are at a manageable point. I don’t want to burn any bridges by saying we are t going to do rehab with them, I’d still like him to be able and go do a recheck appointment with the vet there maybe every 3-6 months but the only reason to go would be the under water treadmill which is that really going to make a difference doing it 3 times. Right now we only have 3 appointments booked the 13th, 18th, and 25th I guess at this point it might as well just be worth going to do those 3 and go from there, and we can look at the other options for after that. His X-rays 8 week X-rays are on the 2nd of September. Lots to think about.

 

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Such dilemmas, yes lots to think about and I can totally relate to most you're going through. I've also booked Eva in for 3 hydrotherapy sessions (about an hour away) and will see how things go. I can't really see how one 20 minute session a week will make a vast deal of difference but it's more for their expert advice and monitoring how she's progressing, which I think will be mainly due to time, the home exercises and the walking we're doing.
I've been following the hospitals advice and ramping things up a little by referring to this Medvet advice, attached. But we're still very much at 15 min walks and won't be at 30 min walks for another 6 weeks. I too feel she could do much more and she's not limping when walking at all, in fact she's got her little trot back!
But, when standing she's still leaning on her other leg and the surgeon confirmed how the muscles had shrunk. You'll remember it got worse after Tuesday's X-ray, but it's improving again now. They must have just stretched her muscles further than they've been for a while and made them sore.
We haven't done anything as advanced as Gower's stance analysis, though I saw that on TV last week and thought how great that would be for Eva.
Sorry to read all about the pain medications, I guess we'll be going through all this too at some stage. But for now Eva's not on anything except for the fish oil I squirt on her food. I may look into some other supplements, knowing that she's bound to get arthritis at some stage.
We took Eva to the pub last night, for the first time in 2 months, she was so excited...so was I! She did really well and after the usual frantic 5 mins calmed right down and let us enjoy our meal. Nice to have a bit of our old lives back!

Good luck with all the dilemmas and best wishes to Gower!
 

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Such dilemmas, yes lots to think about and I can totally relate to most you're going through. I've also booked Eva in for 3 hydrotherapy sessions (about an hour away) and will see how things go. I can't really see how one 20 minute session a week will make a vast deal of difference but it's more for their expert advice and monitoring how she's progressing, which I think will be mainly due to time, the home exercises and the walking we're doing.
I've been following the hospitals advice and ramping things up a little by referring to this Medvet advice, attached. But we're still very much at 15 min walks and won't be at 30 min walks for another 6 weeks. I too feel she could do much more and she's not limping when walking at all, in fact she's got her little trot back!
But, when standing she's still leaning on her other leg and the surgeon confirmed how the muscles had shrunk. You'll remember it got worse after Tuesday's X-ray, but it's improving again now. They must have just stretched her muscles further than they've been for a while and made them sore.
We haven't done anything as advanced as Gower's stance analysis, though I saw that on TV last week and thought how great that would be for Eva.
Sorry to read all about the pain medications, I guess we'll be going through all this too at some stage. But for now Eva's not on anything except for the fish oil I squirt on her food. I may look into some other supplements, knowing that she's bound to get arthritis at some stage.
We took Eva to the pub last night, for the first time in 2 months, she was so excited...so was I! She did really well and after the usual frantic 5 mins calmed right down and let us enjoy our meal. Nice to have a bit of our old lives back!

Good luck with all the dilemmas and best wishes to Gower!
That is great you got to take Eva back to the pub! Gower is the same when he is standing putting all the weight on the other leg. I guess I’ve decided we will do the 3 weeks of the rehab, but like you said with Eva not sure how 3 weeks will make much difference. Gower will do 3 weeks of the underwater treadmill, cold laser therapy , and 2 chiropractor sessions, and that will bring us up to our follow up X-rays so that will be good. We have some at home exercises they gave us to do to help with weight shifting to get him using the surgery leg.

I too also use the medvet guide some, I love that it has a week by week guide.

I am not doing the medications right now, I will have to do more research I’m glad I held off because Gower was actually sick Tuesday night into last night woke us up a few times during the night to go to the bathroom, and couldn’t keep his food down yesterday morning the vet had told us he had a lot of peanut butter at his appointment so we will definitely be telling them he can’t have peanut butter during his rehab if they’ll be giving him that much.
 

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That is great you got to take Eva back to the pub! Gower is the same when he is standing putting all the weight on the other leg. I guess I’ve decided we will do the 3 weeks of the rehab, but like you said with Eva not sure how 3 weeks will make much difference. Gower will do 3 weeks of the underwater treadmill, cold laser therapy , and 2 chiropractor sessions, and that will bring us up to our follow up X-rays so that will be good. We have some at home exercises they gave us to do to help with weight shifting to get him using the surgery leg.

I too also use the medvet guide some, I love that it has a week by week guide.

I am not doing the medications right now, I will have to do more research I’m glad I held off because Gower was actually sick Tuesday night into last night woke us up a few times during the night to go to the bathroom, and couldn’t keep his food down yesterday morning the vet had told us he had a lot of peanut butter at his appointment so we will definitely be telling them he can’t have peanut butter during his rehab if they’ll be giving him that much.
Yes, being able to go the pub again makes sooo much difference!!
They haven't mentioned laser therapy for Eva so I think we just have the underwater treadmill on Tuesday. I'll let you know how that goes.
This sickness and diarrhoea is something we've been getting used to after our numerous vet visits. I thought it was the stress or the anaesthetics giving her diarrhoea but I'm now thinking they (not just the hospital but our regular vet) give Eva all sorts of treats and random food, despite them saying they only give the same food we do. This last time, I said she was still on hypoallergenic food so no treats and she came home without any tummy troubles at all. (The incontinence was new, but that's got to be the anaesthetic).
Looking forward to starting 20 min walks soon, we've been at 15 mins 3 times a day for 3 weeks and I can walk them with my eyes closed! (Not sure why the surgeon said another week at 15 mins, but with the setback after the x-rays I'm happy being cautious, we're obviously not out of the woods yet.
 

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Yes, being able to go the pub again makes sooo much difference!!
They haven't mentioned laser therapy for Eva so I think we just have the underwater treadmill on Tuesday. I'll let you know how that goes.
This sickness and diarrhoea is something we've been getting used to after our numerous vet visits. I thought it was the stress or the anaesthetics giving her diarrhoea but I'm now thinking they (not just the hospital but our regular vet) give Eva all sorts of treats and random food, despite them saying they only give the same food we do. This last time, I said she was still on hypoallergenic food so no treats and she came home without any tummy troubles at all. (The incontinence was new, but that's got to be the anaesthetic).
Looking forward to starting 20 min walks soon, we've been at 15 mins 3 times a day for 3 weeks and I can walk them with my eyes closed! (Not sure why the surgeon said another week at 15 mins, but with the setback after the x-rays I'm happy being cautious, we're obviously not out of the woods yet.
Hey There! How is everything with Eva, How did hydrotherapy go with Eva? Have you started your 20 minute walks with her yet? Hopefully it’s not as hot there.

Gower has been doing okay, no noticeable improvements still not fully bearing any weight on the leg when standing inside , I need to get better at doing the exercises the rehab gave us, he doesn’t enjoy them. He puts weight on it just fine to walk, I don’t think think he is walking with a limp anymore. We have hydrotherapy and laser Saturday - hope all that goes well. And Thursday he has that, and the chiropractic adjustment that will be interesting, I was we could be in the room to watch that.
 

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We're doing fine thank you! The hydrotherapy went well. You may remember we did a trial session about a month ago which was a little frantic, but this time Eva settled into the walking and did really well. She did 8 and half minutes walking in total over about 20 minutes. The physiotherapist was pleased with progress overall. She could see a slight limp when walking (I can't) and agreed that the weight bearing when standing was improving. So, we're raising the bars she walks over to her ankle height (actually a little more because I don't have anything that height so I'm using bricks on their ends) and doing repeated sits to stand exercises. She also said we can start doing some trotting on our walks. But in this heat, not much of that is going to happen! She actually leapt over the last of the bar though, so I'll keep her on the lead for those now. I do let her off the lead in the garden now, I know I shouldn't but she is a very calm dog. If she's anxious to go out though (probably because she's imagined a squirrel), I do go out with her on the lead and once the zoomies has stopped then I take the lead off and she's fine just walking around and sniffing. Most of the time she wants to lie in the sunshine and then I'm dragging her into the shade!
The 20 min walks make a lot of difference here. We can walk in a circular route to the shops, through a park and back home or we can take a different route which is mainly a footpath covered by trees...ideally in this heat. It's still over 90f here. I'm sure you're very used with that but here we're struggling! We can't do 3 walks a day, as it's too hot in the day, so we just do morning and evening. The physio said that's fine.
So all in all, she's doing pretty well.
Sorry to hear there's no noticeable improvement with Gower. Hopefully he's just at that slow stage where Eva was about a month ago when I wasn't seeing anything happening either and was getting quite worried, then things slowly started to improve. Eva doesn't seem to mind the exercises so long as I have a selection of treats in my hand, then she hasn't a thought in her head other than the snack! Though I admit we don't do as much as we probably should do.
Looking forward to hearing how all Gower's treatments go! Good luck!!
 

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We're doing fine thank you! The hydrotherapy went well. You may remember we did a trial session about a month ago which was a little frantic, but this time Eva settled into the walking and did really well. She did 8 and half minutes walking in total over about 20 minutes. The physiotherapist was pleased with progress overall. She could see a slight limp when walking (I can't) and agreed that the weight bearing when standing was improving. So, we're raising the bars she walks over to her ankle height (actually a little more because I don't have anything that height so I'm using bricks on their ends) and doing repeated sits to stand exercises. She also said we can start doing some trotting on our walks. But in this heat, not much of that is going to happen! She actually leapt over the last of the bar though, so I'll keep her on the lead for those now. I do let her off the lead in the garden now, I know I shouldn't but she is a very calm dog. If she's anxious to go out though (probably because she's imagined a squirrel), I do go out with her on the lead and once the zoomies has stopped then I take the lead off and she's fine just walking around and sniffing. Most of the time she wants to lie in the sunshine and then I'm dragging her into the shade!
The 20 min walks make a lot of difference here. We can walk in a circular route to the shops, through a park and back home or we can take a different route which is mainly a footpath covered by trees...ideally in this heat. It's still over 90f here. I'm sure you're very used with that but here we're struggling! We can't do 3 walks a day, as it's too hot in the day, so we just do morning and evening. The physio said that's fine.
So all in all, she's doing pretty well.
Sorry to hear there's no noticeable improvement with Gower. Hopefully he's just at that slow stage where Eva was about a month ago when I wasn't seeing anything happening either and was getting quite worried, then things slowly started to improve. Eva doesn't seem to mind the exercises so long as I have a selection of treats in my hand, then she hasn't a thought in her head other than the snack! Though I admit we don't do as much as we probably should do.
Looking forward to hearing how all Gower's treatments go! Good luck!!
Glad to hear Eva is doing well, and doing longer walks. It definitely makes a difference, and now you can enjoy a bit more scenery. How is the hydrotherapy going? Gower has had two sessions so far of hydrotherapy, cold laser and one chiropractor adjustment he seems to be doing well he is sore after rehab appointments but that seems to be excepted we have one more currently booked and they will do a recheck exam and see how he is doing next week, then the following week we have the follow up with the Surgeon to see how he is healing. Overall all seems well so hoping for a good out come from those X-rays .
Hopefully it’s cooled down a bit there for you! Looking forward to see how Eva has been doing.
 
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