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Hi Everyone!
I'm hoping someone can help me, our new 6month old pup archie has been having lots of trouble to past month. It all started with him scratching and biting excessively and after multiple trips to the vet we have changed his diet to something that is hypoallergenic with no grains, chicken etc... and we have kept him of the grass for almost 1 month now. We also wash him weekly with aloveen which is an oatmeal shampoo which is meant to be good for their skin.

However after all of this he still wasn't getting any better so he went on prednisolone which stopped this itching completely! Unfortunately this drug has many side affects and he can't be on this long term. 2 days after we stopped the medication Archie was back scratching and itching like crazy!

Spoke to the vet who said basically all they can do is manage it she believes that he is allergic to something to the environment..... Next step would be to get him referred to a dog allergy specialist and get him tested and possibly go down the path of desensitization, which will be very $$$$$$$$$.

Ultimately I know we need to do something to help him with his allergies but I was just wondering if any one out there has similar issue and tried something that worked for them. Or is there a more natural solution? Has any one gone down the path of desensitization and has it helped?

Any advice would be great!!
 

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Hi! So sorry to hear about your puppies allergies :( They're annoying (I have many myself).
Winchester was itchy since he was a baby.. never got allergy tests done so not sure if that was actually what caused it.. vet always said it was a staph infection (never tested for it just looked at it) we had him on antibiotics at the beginning but did not want to keep him on them forever.. we bought this Micro-Tek Shampoo shampoo and all his skin issues resolved within 2 weeks after 6 months of nothing else helping. I'm not sure if it'll help in your case but it's worth a try since it's a not very expensive solution. And if does not resolve the issue then perhaps it will at least help a little bit to relieve the puppy being very itchy. It is cheaper on amazon and sometimes there are deals on there where you can get the shampoo and spray together (for only about 20$).

Good luck! Fingers crossed you will find a solution sooner than later. I'm sure there are tons of people on the forums who have more helpful advice, I am no expert, just speaking from personal experience.
 

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all you can do is try and find out what it is..see whats blooming in your area within the last month. What changed when it started, anything new just before it started..like a toy blanket, it could be most anything..time to work your memory. It's a hard thing to determine with this kind of thing. You can try different foods. You can also give a little olive oil in the food..I think it a 1/2 teaspoon which may do the trick.
Keep us posted.
 

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Thank you both! Unfortunately nothing new has happened, and here in Australia we are going into Autumn so there are no new blooms. I have heard of the olive oil and fish oil so I might give that a try. It's so frustrating because you can tell he's in so much discomfort! If we do go down the allergy testing scenario it will be very expensive and apparently it only works in 70% of dogs... urgh! I'll definitely keep you all posted and see what happens next :(
 

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You may want to see a specialist. My vet told me that a dog will not experience a reaction until the second exposure as a general rule so if a puppy is exhibiting symptoms they usually suspect food before environment. It could end up being both and you may have to experiment to find something that works.
 
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They originally thought it was a food allergy so he's on a special diet but apparently because the prednisolone was so successful and the itching returned straight away they are more likely to lean towards it being an environmental allergy
 

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Bennett had seasonal allergies and we were able to get by using benadryl (diphenhydramine) twice a day. In the beginning, it mad him sleepy, but he soon began to tolerate it just fine. We also wiped him down every time he came back in the house.

Just because you aren't seeing blooms, it doesn't mean that there aren't environmental allergens out there.

I am allergic to trees, grasses, weeds, mold and fungi. I am not highly allergic to any of them, but the fact that there are always several active at any given time means I am always suffering with allergies. It can also make it hard to figure out. This is a great week for me - just having one pollen count drop makes a difference.

And then there are cross-allergies. The protein in ragweed pollen is also related to the chemicals in cantaloupe, banana, sunflower seeds, zucchini and cucumber. Grass pollen is related to peaches, celery, melons, tomatoes and oranges.
Birch pollen is related to a large number of vegetables, fruits and nuts, including potatoes, celery, walnuts, apples, pears, peaches and cherries and other pitted fruit.

For some people and pets, cooking the food changes the protein that causes the reaction. But not always. Fun, isn't it?

If you try the allergy shots and they don't work, you can stop them.
 

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We went to see a specialist and we were told that Hudson was allergic to grass and trees. :(
We ended up doing a saliva test through Hemopet and found that he was allergic to chicken and fish amongst other things. His itching is now a thing of the past and no longer takes antihistamines. :D

Hope that you find out the trigger for your boy asap :)
 

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We went to see a specialist and we were told that Hudson was allergic to grass and trees. :(
We ended up doing a saliva test through Hemopet and found that he was allergic to chicken and fish amongst other things. His itching is now a thing of the past and no longer takes antihistamines. :D

Hope that you find out the trigger for your boy asap :)
Hi Doug, what did they give Hudson to stop his itching?
 

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Hi Doug, what did they give Hudson to stop his itching?
Through the saliva test they were able to give us a list of ingredients may have triggered his itching. We were then able to feed him food (kibble and BARF patties) that avoided those triggers eg fish, chicken, pork potatoes, etc. As it turns out his allergies were not environmental after all despite what the specialists blood tests suggested.

Every dog is different we just need to work out the puzzle. :wavey:
 

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I would suggest stopping the oatmeal shampoo as it may be compounding the problem. Although oatmeal shampoo is advertised to be soothing it is a grain and can actually be making the itching worse if your dog is allergic to grains! Just like we should eliminate grain from their diet we should also not use it in shampoos if they have allergies. Here is a website with lots of articles from a holistic vet named Dr. Karen Becker. She has great advised about all kinds of medical issues for animals. You can look through some of the archived articles. Pet Nutrition and Animal Wellness - Mercola.com
 

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The story you told could be retold as our JP's story. After a year and a half of trying different foods and shampoo's this is where we are now. We use Temaril-P a corticosteroid which had the result you mentioned of stopping the itching in its tracks. Of course we also have the side effect concerns you mentioned. We did a blood test which revealed that food was not even related in our case, kind of. The test results came back as an allergy to dust mites, storage mites and one other type of mite I can't even remember. So we don’t feed dry foods anymore since storage mites are very prevalent in dry foods. We are now on a full raw diet. Honestly I don't think the raw diet helped the itching at all but I do believe it's helping protect his skin, his coat looks great in spite of constant itching. Once we did the blood test we started a series of immunotherapy shots based on the results that we administered at home. We thought we were having success because we started the program in early spring and after the fall the itching became less of a problem. Through the winter we continued the shots with the itching completely stopped but as the spring rolled in the itching resumed. During the immunotherapy treatments we used the Temaril-P as needed to provide some comfort and learned to use as little as possible based on his level of itching. After almost two years of giving shots we came to the conclusion that we were not having any success with it and gave up. We have tried OTC allergy meds (Benadryl) to no affect. Here is where we are now, he at about 4 years old. Throughout this time we have been giving him AllerG-3 Fish Oil Supplements to help keep his coat as healthy as possible. We bath him once or twice a month with just a regular shampoo. He is on a full raw diet. We have learned to watch him carefully and we have continued to use the Temaril-P when needed and only as much as needed to reduce his itching to a level that seems tolerable, hey we all itch a little. The course prescribed by the drug company is way higher in dosage than we use to provide him with relief. He has been seeing the vet regularly and our vet is comfortable prescribing the drug at the amounts we are using. As of today our winter is coming to an end. He has not had a pill in about two months and has hardly been itching at all. During the last couple of days we noticed a little more itching each day and we will probably be resuming dosing again. I’ve been joking on Facebook lately that I want to move to the colder climates upstate because I really do enjoy the winter. Maybe for JP’s sake we’ll really have to do that. I know that some will not agree with how we are proceeding. I’m offering it only so you can weigh your options to come up with the best plan for your dog. Keep in mind that we have been working closely with our present vet and others throughout and following professional advice. During the first year and a half of his life he was in the puppy program of a highly regarded seeing eye dog organization and was getting the very best veterinary care and ultimately they decided that do to his allergies needed to be released. I’m not suggesting that your dog is suffering from a dust mite allergy you may need to test to find out the exact problem. The point is that it may be something that may be impossible to eliminate (possibly reduce) his exposure to. You may be on a difficult journey with your boy, good luck I hope you find a good resolution for him.
 
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