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We brought home our beautiful puppy at 8 weeks from a breeder we trusted because we had gotten our older Golden Retriever from him 10 years ago. She was on the small side, but cute and frisky as anything -- fabulous the first week and a half -- running and checking everything out and chasing her big sister's favorite ball etc. Just great at learning to go outside and not in crate....she loved running after her big sister, and took a spill or two in the yard from that bigger tail, but got up and kept going. We tried to keep her from being too rambunctious with her sister. Anyway at exactly the morning when she was 9.5 weeks old she woke up and would not walk out of the crate -- she would not walk at all. With a lot of work and support she would force herself up to poop or pee and with encouragement took a step or two every once in a while. We took her to the vet who said no idea what was wrong, but rest. She kept eating a little. We went to another vet friend who said no idea but exercise. Breeder said most important to eat lots of protein and drink and that she goes regularly. She did have a parasite called Coccidiosis, and is taking ALBON, but neither vet thinks this was any cause, as it is common for majority of puppies to have this type issue. She has no fever. Over holiday weekend no improvement and yesterday on day 6 she seemed a little worse and we returned to the vet who did xrays now and said nothing shows. Could be soft tissue damage or a strange parasite or something congenital. Breeder says it is a reaction to Lepto vaccine s he saw this years ago and had stopped having his puppies receive this, but a new vet gave it without his knowing. Says lots of protein and rest and she will likely work out of it. I do not know whom to believe. I think all mean well, but nobody knows.....one vet said go to a neurologist for MRI for $800, which I don't want to do if it is not needed since it is so costly, and I have an autistic child and 3 in college....the dog is a friend for the autistic child (young adult). Also said maybe specialist will do blood work to look for something rare before going for the MRI. Other vet who did xrays put on an anti inflamatory. She played last night on her back moving her legs rapidly as I dangled a stuffed toy for her. She ate when I ground up turkey meat with dry puppy food and warm water. I have also given her as much water as she will drink and some Pedialyte. After playing tonight she still could not stand, but she did poop for the first time in 24 hours. Sadly though she could not stand and squat as she had earlier in the week.....she kind of stayed on her side and went. Today she peed but cannot stand at all and moans once in a while when out of crate. Has eaten a little turkey and had a bit of water. Anyway, this is tons of info, but I would welcome any help anyone can offer as she is so very dear and loved already in two weeks (in two minutes!) and we do not want to see her unable to walk or enjoy a fun "puppyhood." We saw her being the ultimate happy little playful girl, and do not want to see that taken from her or her "boy." Thank you for any thoughts.
 

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OMG, I'm so sorry. I have no knowledge with your issues, but wanted to add my thoughts and prayers. How devastating. The forum has such a diverse and knowledgeable community, I hope someone has some ideas for you and your sweet baby.
 

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One thought... since your vets are unable to come up with a diagnosis and course of treatment, are you near a vet school? They are able to treat many issues which are beyond the scope of most vets.
 
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Anyway at exactly the morning when she was 9.5 weeks old she woke up and would not walk out of the crate -- she would not walk at all. With a lot of work and support she would force herself up to poop or pee and with encouragement took a step or two every once in a while.
This sounds terrible....

Did this happen shortly after vaccinations? How soon after?

We took her to the vet who said no idea what was wrong, but rest.
Because of your puppy's age, I would not be satisfied with this response from your vet. I would be tracking down a different vet...

She did have a parasite called Coccidiosis, and is taking ALBON, but neither vet thinks this was any cause, as it is common for majority of puppies to have this type issue.
I can't imagine it being common! I would suspect this is what is going on with your puppy - especially considering my previous guy (Danny) was close to dying when he had it. He was so bad the vets thought he had parvo. He couldn't keep liquids down at all.
Breeder says it is a reaction to Lepto vaccine s he saw this years ago and had stopped having his puppies receive this, but a new vet gave it without his knowing.
It sounds like it could be a reaction to Lepto...

But again, your vet should be addressing this.

She ate when I ground up turkey meat with dry puppy food and warm water. I have also given her as much water as she will drink and some Pedialyte.
Again, I would discuss this with a vet. Is your puppy vomitting at all?

After playing tonight she still could not stand, but she did poop for the first time in 24 hours. Sadly though she could not stand and squat as she had earlier in the week.....she kind of stayed on her side and went. Today she peed but cannot stand at all and moans once in a while when out of crate.
Again, this is terrible - and because of your puppy's age, I would be rushing that puppy to a better vet, even a specialist.

I'm so sorry you and your pup have to go through this.... :(
 

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Yikes. So sorry you're going through this. If the vet can't find a likely reason, I'd also suspect reaction to vaccine. What did the breeder say they did for the other puppy years ago?

Do you have a holistic vet in your area? If traditional vets aren't offering you anything other than the option to do an MRI (which may well be needed... ?), a holistic approach might be a good intermediate step - especially if it's vaccine-related.
 
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Wow, I am so sorry to read about what has happened with your puppy. I really have no advice to offer, other than to say that it could definitely be a reaction to the lepto vaccination. But I offer that only as an opinion, it's definitely not substantiated.

I would certainly be looking for a second opinion. The veterinary college idea is a great one. And as someone else mentioned, if it is a vaccination reaction, sometimes the homeopathic route can help. I know I was recommended Thuga (sometimes spelled thuja) after my dog, Katie, reacted to the rabies vaccination.

My heart goes out to you, and I hope you find answers.

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Please take her to closest veterinary college for a full work up, blood work for every known blood born disease, and anything else they can think of. She needs treatment NOW, waiting is not helping her.

I'm so sorry your baby is so sick.
 

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She is not vomitting. Breeder feels it is reaction to the Lepto and I should keep making sure she eats and drinks and she should get better. Shot was 2 days before we brought her home -- so she started reaction about 12 days after the shot. I will look for a veterinary college in NJ and see what they might be able to figure out. That was also a good recommendation. Breeder's vet is contacting the drug company re the Lepto and he advises keeping the treatment of just lots of care and feeding her by hand and making sure she drinks.....not much to go on.
 

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I'm not a vet,but could it be a reaction to the ALBON she's taking for the Coccidiosis??
Maybe that's not possible,and what i say is stupid,but just a thought.I hope this poor baby is feeling better very soon!Good luck.
 

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OMG...get her to a specialist asap. How could a vet let the puppy leave knowing the puppy isnt walking??? wouldnt they want to look further? please keep us updated, that is scary:( poor baby..I just looked up reactions to lepto vaccine and it says nothing about not being able to walk...just vomiting, dark colored urine, bloody stools, lethargic..
 

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It sounds kind of like what my Enzo had Easter weekend...coincidentally, just after his shots. Possible reaction to the lepto vaccine was also suggested. Enzo spent 2 days on IV fluids and it worked itself out. His official diagnosis was "gastroenteritis", which is basically a fancy word for an upset stomach. He was lame from being dehydrated. Is your puppy able to move her head or does it appear painful for her to do so?
 

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Puppy perkier tonight but still not walking

It sounds kind of like what my Enzo had Easter weekend...coincidentally, just after his shots. Possible reaction to the lepto vaccine was also suggested. Enzo spent 2 days on IV fluids and it worked itself out. His official diagnosis was "gastroenteritis", which is basically a fancy word for an upset stomach. He was lame from being dehydrated. Is your puppy able to move her head or does it appear painful for her to do so?
She is moving her head a lot and can move her legs like crazy when on her back and I am thrilled to say is peppy this evening!! She ate nicely -- still from my hand but ate a lot. She does not want to drink much, but I am giving her a bottle and a syringe with water and pedialyte so she keeps drinking. Breeder has called multiple times today to check up on her and feels it is exactly what he saw years ago from Lepto reaction and it should take up to 3 weeks to resolve. I am holding her a lot and playing when she is peppy and encouraging her to move those little legs even if not walking on them. Tomorrow in day time we will look for a veterinary school to consult. I am soooo happy that so many people out there are concerned and sending good thoughts to this little girl. She is going to rest at the first sign of not ploaying so she can be strong. Her grandpa is coming to care for her tomorrow so she will have non stop love while I am at work.
 

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Will look for holistic vet and a vet school tomorrow. Breeder said lots of rest time and move legs a little and most important eat and eat and drink and drink was what helped when he saw this years ago from Lepto. She is getting rest and fed by hand and water any way I can get her to take it. She is peppier tonight than in days -- not walking but alert and playing with toys and she did eat. Thank you and everyone who is helping me here.
 

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Hoping that this all resolves soon. The first thing that comes to mind to me is Lyme, which I know is prevalent in your area. She is young to have it, but I would consider testing her for it.
 

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She is not vomitting. Breeder feels it is reaction to the Lepto and I should keep making sure she eats and drinks and she should get better. Shot was 2 days before we brought her home -- so she started reaction about 12 days after the shot. I will look for a veterinary college in NJ and see what they might be able to figure out. That was also a good recommendation. Breeder's vet is contacting the drug company re the Lepto and he advises keeping the treatment of just lots of care and feeding her by hand and making sure she drinks.....not much to go on.
I know a lot of people who do not give the leptospirosis shots to puppies because of the reactions that they can cause... but... Your baby is far more likely to react to the rabies shot, and in the last few years the quality of the leptospirosis shot has improved dramatically. I doubt very much that this is a reaction to the lepto portion of the vaccine.

On a side note, I did not give my pups lepto in their first boosters but waited til six months of age and had them get it. I have a wooded lot in my backyard so it is somewhat necessary for my two.
 

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Thanks but the Albon started a day after she showed symptoms so it is not the cause -- no ideas are bad ones and I really appreciate your time in trying to problem solve.
 

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Vet ruled out Lymes due to her age. He said symptoms like this would take 3-4 months and she is not that old. My other dogs always got a vaccine for Lymes because it is indeed bad in this area and has always been a worry. My daughters always check them for ticks as well, but this little one is supposedly too young....
 

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Hoping that this all resolves soon. The first thing that comes to mind to me is Lyme, which I know is prevalent in your area. She is young to have it, but I would consider testing her for it.
This jogged my memory. A local, VERY reputable breeder had a litter of pups, which became very sick and I believe she lost some of the litter. When the mother was checked, she had a very active case of Lyme Disease, which she had passed on to the pups, either in utero or through her milk. The breeder had no idea her girl was infected until the pups became so sick.

I believe she had to bypass her own vet and go to a specialist, to get the diagnosis, as her vet was also sure it could not be Lyme disease.

I know that I spayed and placed one of my girls, out of fear (not sure it was justified) that her Lyme would "break out" again if she got pregnant, and that she would then pass it to her pups.

And of course, Lyme is only one of many tick borne diseases.

Far-fetched, but at this point, who knows?
 
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