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I am completely at a loss of what to do. My 4.5 month old boy Jones suddenly gets in to his head to attack me, jumping high up on me ripping holes in all my clothes. He'll get into 'attack mode' and bare his teeth at me, crouch low and jump on me, trying to bite my arms, clothes and legs- even breaking through the skin and making me bleed. And then 5 minutes later he'll be over it and be completely calm and adorable again, sitting when I tell him to etc.
I have 3 kids under 5, and a husband- and he doesn't do this to any of them- just me!!! (He does jump on them a bit, but not the angry viscous aggression that he has with me). I spend the most quality time with him, feed him, stroke his tummy etc etc and we get along well- I adore him, until these episodes, which are quite upsetting. I am very firm with him, I did puppy preschool and do the commands and training that you're meant to do.
I've tried yelping like a dog, shaking a can of coins, squirting water at him with a spray gun when he's biting, ignoring him (that was a hard one when he was actively biting me), tapping him on the back (the vet recommended this), trying to get away from him and isolate him as soon as possible, putting him in a puppy enclosure as punishment. All of these methods I've given a week each (we've had the problem with mouthing from when we got him at 8 weeks- so have been trying to deal with it for a long time), none of which have had any effect at all.
My husband didn't believe it was happening, and kept telling me I just had to be more firm, but then he saw it happen and fortunately believes me now. He is teething, but this is a whole other level to just 'mouthing'
What do I do?????
(I'm wanting to get an obedience trainer to the house, but we don't have the$$$ for it!)
 

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We gave a LOT of ice cubes during teething. Frozen items are key to help soothe pup. We even laced the cubes with baby bonjela. It's not going to stop all the biting but it will help. Golfgal froze carrots.

I even massaged Millie's gums whilst she was teething. If I gave her my hand to gnaw on she wouldn't really hurt me. It was uncomfortable but so was her mouth so I figured it was worth it
 

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Thanks Chritty. I guess I'm just confused that if it is teething, why the sudden angry onset for 5 minutes (and then back to calm)and why only just with me? :confused:
 

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To me this doesn't sound like an aggressive attack to much as a teenager throwing a fit.
Mine went through a phase like this and it is hard! How I dealt with it was one of 2 ways, either stop all movement, cross your arms, turn your back to him and then no more moving no talking and don't look at them. When he calms down, then you can interact.
What worked better for me was a time out. When the behavior starts immediately and unceremoniously take him by the collar and swiftly move him into another room (or crate) and close the door. Don't say anything during this and don't show emotion. Leave them in for 30 seconds and then let them out.
The key to whatever you try is consistency.

We have lot's of really great trainers on here so hopefully they will chime in.
 

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I don't think I honestly have ever seen a golden have "anger". I think one of the hardest things to remember with puppies is that they don't speak human. They also don't have human emotions or reasoning. They act and react to us they way they do because they are either trying to figure out what we want, playing, reacting to fear, pain, hunger, instictual prey drive, etc. Even dogs that engage in vicious attacks on other dogs are "reactive" rather than "angry".
I don't suscribe in most of the "alpha" dominance theory of pet behavior but there are a few things that are logical.
Sometimes puppies will play aggressively with one person versus another because something about that persons behavior or personality makes the puppy view them as a playmate rather than as beloved master. Puppies will test their limits and boundaries, and yours just has the wrong idea of whats acceptable.
 

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Sometimes I think they just get bored and act out with the person who usually makes things happen...just to make something happen. Add in teething pain...they lead with what's bugging them.

How much exercise is he getting? Where does he sleep?
 

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I'll second what a few have said here that worked for us in the similar stage we very recently had with Kona (he's now 7 months old and MUCH better, but the teething stage was a nightmare at times).

- Ice cubes, and lots of them! (but not to many back to back)
- Crate, room, or whatever that you give him time outs in. When bad behavior occurs, simply take him to that place and leave him there for a 30 seconds to a minute and let him calm down. Its amazing how well this worked for us. Now did he 100% learn cause and effect from this? No, but it def curtailed some of the biting.
- Holding your fingers around his snout (making sure not to cover his nose) and gently holding it closed while saying no bite. You must hold on to him so he can't squirm out and wait for him to tire and relax before you release. We saw good results from this technique.
- Get an antler!! Best thing we ever got for Kona. He can't destroy it, at least not quickly and he loves gnawing on it for long periods of time. A bit pricy, but worth it.
 

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I was in the same exact boat your in Jones'Mom. My puppy would also go into those attack modes. He ripped one of my shirts and broke the skin a couple of times. It wasn't play either. I don't care how others on this board try to spin it. We finally had enough and contacted a trainer. He kept him for a week and taught him the basics. We went back every week for an hour session. It worked for us. You might want to contact an experienced trainer in your area. The trainer that we contacted charged us 600 bucks for that week and ten sessions after that. It was well worth it.
 

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Not aggressive, just the worst phase you can go through. Some dogs are better than others some are demons. Tayla was a demon on steroids for a long time. She was better by the time she was a year old. She is the sweetest dog and just needed a job and to learn impulse control. I doubt yours is aggressive either.
 
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I was in the same exact boat your in Jones'Mom.

I don't care how others on this board try to spin it.

We have recently been going down the same stream in the same boat too.

I've read your story a lot of times Goldylover and I have to say from what you have told us previously that your trainer has labelled your puppy's aggression incorrectly.

Probably 3 or 4 months ago I started a thread about my puppy's aggression. I was told similar things that are being said here on this thread but I was reluctant to believe that it's just normal puppy behavior. Millie would bare her teeth and attack, jump and be just plain horrible. Both my wife and I had cuts on our hands, scratches all up and down our limbs, torn clothing, the lot.

We turned to a trainer. He rehabilitates Pitbulls so they can be rehomed instead of being destroyed. He spends a lot of time with aggressive dogs. We spent a few hundred dollars to have him come and spend some time with us to help with our aggressive dog.

After spending hours with us he told us that there is no way what our dog is doing in aggression. She is a high energy, excitable pup that needs her excitement levels kept under control to have her behave the way we expect her to.

And that's the thing, all these stories on here about puppies behaving terribly is that they are babies. They've only been alive for such a short time. Their brains and their thought processes are only just starting. It is our expectations as puppy owners that need to be altered. We certainly were very naïve to what what puppyhood is like. I thought it would be all cuddles and puppy breath. What I have learnt now would have probably turned me off from buying a puppy in the first place and just gone with an older rescue.

Puppies are a massive PITA. They're not all as bad as each other but still.

Bitey, naughty, ignorant, trouble - yes

Dangerously aggressive- highly unlikely
 

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Thanks for all of the replies so far- I really appreciate all of them. From what I can see I feel ill qualified to deal with this myself, whatever Jones' intentions are when he's lunging at me, the intentional repeated biting takes it a bit far for me. I think we had better save for a while and pay some money and get a professional to come out (I think in Australia they're even more expensive then the US from what I've heard).
In answer to a question above, we have a 3 bed house and 3 kids, so there's no room inside to sleep, he has his own space on our covered fenced in deck- which he likes. Exercise: He gets walked for 20 minutes nearly every day and played with outside for a while.
 

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Thanks for all of the replies so far- I really appreciate all of them. From what I can see I feel ill qualified to deal with this myself, whatever Jones' intentions are when he's lunging at me, the intentional repeated biting takes it a bit far for me. I think we had better save for a while and pay some money and get a professional to come out (I think in Australia they're even more expensive then the US from what I've heard).
In answer to a question above, we have a 3 bed house and 3 kids, so there's no room inside to sleep, he has his own space on our covered fenced in deck- which he likes. Exercise: He gets walked for 20 minutes nearly every day and played with outside for a while.

Where in Aus are you?
 

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I can. It would be really cool if Millie and Jones could get together for a puppy play date. My wife and I could talk to you about trainers while those two wear each other out
 

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[ Exercise: He gets walked for 20 minutes nearly every day and played with outside for a while.[/QUOTE]

So some days he doesn't get walked at all. If he is a high energy pup and, at the moment it sounds as if he is, then he needs to be walked every day and I would think 2 x 20 min walks would be in order at 4 months. He needs to use up some of that energy.
 

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That sounds good- poor Jones doesn't have any puppies he plays with, just got to find time- tricky with so many young kids running around! Not really sure what we were thinking when we signed up for a puppy too...
 

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I would double the walk time, and allow a lot of time for sniffing and exploring the world outside of his home. The stop and sniff on a walk engages the brain as the actual walk tires the body. Make him work for his food as well. The kong wobbler is great for breakfast kibble as they have to problem solve to get the food. I use the wobbler for my two every morning. An alternative is putting kibble into a large juice bottle. Keeps them busy and engages the brain, it relieves boredom and makes them tired. This phase of 'attacks' will pass though, try not to take it personally. My son was Bear's target for what seemed like forever. Bear is now the friendliest sweetest dog, and he has a very strong bond with my son.
 
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