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We Might Have some Lab x Golden Crosses

My black Lab who's owned by a service dog organization went into heat two weeks ago tomorrow (Saturday). The organization called me today and she's being bred next week to a Golden Retriever and a Yellow Lab. Since my black Lab doesn't carry the recessive yellow gene, any puppies sired by the Golden Retriever will be black. So, we might get some fluffy black puppies!


Puppies should arrive early August. (Since the service dog organization owns my black Lab and both sires, all puppies belong to the service dog organization and will go out to the nationwide network of puppy raiser volunteers who will provide basic obedience training for 18 - 20 months before turning them back into the service dog organization for advanced training evaluation and selection. These puppies are never available for sale.)



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Why are the purposely breeding a Golden with a black lab when they have a fine yellow lab to breed with!?

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A lot of service dog organizations mix breed. They are not breed enthusiast that are dedicated to protecting and propagating one breed. They are about creating the best dogs with the best odds of meeting the very difficult task of becoming a service dog. So if two dogs are strong producers of successful service dog prospects, they will breed them together sometimes regardless of what breed they are.


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We have a service dog organization near here that breeds doodles. The reasoning is so they are smart like poodles and have golden or lab temperaments. Obviously, it doesnít always work that way.


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We have a service dog organization near here that breeds doodles. The reasoning is so they are smart like poodles and have golden or lab temperaments. Obviously, it doesnít always work that way.
This is why it doesn't make sense to me to much better the food when temperament can be on either end of the scale.
I'd understand better if they only had a golden to breed to a lab but not a lab and golden to a lab female especially at the same breeding.

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This is why it doesn't make sense to me to much better the food when temperament can be on either end of the scale.
I'd understand better if they only had a golden to breed to a lab but not a lab and golden to a lab female especially at the same breeding.
I donít understand it either. I donít know much about service dogs though.


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Why are the purposely breeding a Golden with a black lab when they have a fine yellow lab to breed with!?

The service dog organization I volunteer with provides the dogs free of charge to recipients. There's approximately a two year wait for a service dog. The most important outcome of any breeding is a pregnancy. Thus, they always use two sires for every breeding. There are about 130+ breeder dogs in their colony, so they have black labs, yellow labs, and Goldens to choose from when they select a suitable potential sire. (Ever since they moved to the two sire requirement, it's almost unheard of for one of the breeders not to become pregnant.) Given the two sire rule, LJack's explanation comes into play. They're breeding to produce puppies that will have the best chance of becoming service dogs. Additionally, the LabxGolden crosses have a slightly higher success rate in graduating as service dogs, so they're always open to LabxGolden crosses if they feel the sires will pair well with the dam.

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We have a service dog organization near here that breeds doodles. The reasoning is so they are smart like poodles and have golden or lab temperaments. Obviously, it doesnít always work that way.

The service dog organization I volunteer with doesn't own poodles - only Labs and Goldens, so our only crosses are LabxGoldens.
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Thanks for the explanation, I have often wondered about the reason for the mixed breeding, felt there was a good reason behind it, it makes sense.
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I knew a black lab Golden mix and she had the most beautiful shiny black hair. It was long and wavy like a Golden. She was just a mutt from who knows where but smart and beautiful with a Golden heart. I hope you have another great breeding.


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