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The attached shows actual breeds which currently do not have full registration with AKC. I believe the way it works is if you own one of these breeds - they are only allowed to show in Misc classes (if they've gotten that far) or they are limited to companion events (obedience and agility).

These are not "new" breeds that have recently been created in the past 20-50 years. Some of these are ancient breeds that go back hundreds of years. It takes a bit of work getting into AKC - and this includes having active clubs in the US with many active members and a good sized population of purebred dogs in the AKC.

Basically my point is with many mixed breeds out there who have a big following from pet people there isn't a shortcut route to them suddenly becoming show dogs - despite what people think. And when you hear about AKC introducing new breeds every year or whatever - these are not mixed breeds with a short breeding history (less than 100 years) behind them.

Hovawarts have been mentioned here on this forum before. They are not an AKC breed. You can't go to a dog show and see them there. Major reason why is they are very rare here in the US.

French spaniels and Tatras are breeds I'm familiar with (I used to pour over breed books when I was a kid and these were breeds I always said I would get some day LOL). Neither of these breeds are in the AKC.

Cuvacs were brought up by a member here - and I'm not 100% sure if they are the same thing as Tatras or not? Cuvacs are supposedly closely related to Kuvaszs, but I know Tatras are not.
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I have several friends who had lab/golden crosses and loved them. They were amazing dogs. Two of these dogs came from backyard breeders who's female lab and male golden were intact and had a litter of puppies. No health testing, no thought put behind it.

Family friends bought two of these puppies. One looked like a golden, one looked like a lab, both were great dogs, no one would deny that this cross can produce great dogs. The point that forum members are trying to make is that currently, right now, as it stands, this is not a recognized breed. It is a mix. It will be difficult for you to find a breeder who abides by the code of ethics for BOTH breeds when they produce puppies. AKA a reputable breeder.

On the other hand, I have a friend who has two lab/golden crosses, a male and a female. They were adopted through a service dog organization after they flunked out of the program. The male was too energetic, the female was too anxious to perform the service work they were in training for. They were each adopted at about 5-6 months, so definitely still a puppy. It would be your safest bet, if you are looking for this mix, to reach out to an organization like this. That way you can stack your odds at getting a dog who was bred with health, temperament and longevity in mind.


Attached are photos of the backyard bred dogs. Same parents. Mom lab, dad golden.
Thanks for posting as it is amazing how different these dogs look. I think they are both great looking dogs too.

In general, I get how it seems like a great idea to cross two breeds to get the best characteristics of both. However, many experienced breeders on this site and others make the point that you donít get to choose to only pass on the positive traits. Examples are labradoodles that shed yet also have the uptight personality exhibited by poodles, etc.
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If you want a LGX (that's what the service dog organization I volunteer with calls a Lab x Golden cross), I have to echo the sentiments that a released LGX from a service dog organization is your best bet. Health testing will have been done for generations. The parents will also have been selected for breeding based on their temperaments and ease of training. A dog that is cut from a service dog program and adopted out will most likely make a wonderful pet.
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