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If you choose a mix like this, you need to be aware that it might resemble the poodle element of the equation more than the golden element, so you'd need to be ok with that. We own one of each - a golden retriever and a poodle - and they are very different in terms of personality type. The golden is a goofy, affectionate dog, while the poodle is a calculating machine on legs.

And it's also important to bear in mind that a non-shedding coat is often more difficult and time-consuming to care for than a shedding coat. Our poodle has to be brushed and combed frequently to prevent matting, he's washed at least twice a month (or he becomes smelly), and groomed in depth (clipped) about once every six to seven weeks. He's a toy poodle, so very small. The brushing and combing takes at least two to three hours a week, sometimes more, and the six-weekly grooming costs about $40. A friend of ours has a standard poodle, which is similar in terms of size to a doodle, and he spends four to six hours a week on brushing and combing, and has learned to do the in-depth grooming himself (half a day) to avoid the high costs. My golden, for comparison purposes, has a nice wash-and-wear coat that takes me about five minutes a day to maintain (brushing). He's a year old and has been bathed twice in that time.

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NO offense to anyone, but I thought Your main concern was "Shedding". They will shed, but not as much as one would think. Groom your dog on a regular basis, Keep Him or Her healthy, and vacuum your carpet at least twice per week. You are in for the most exciting, lovable, and smartest companion ever. Earlier in the "Thread", someone said that they will "Wrap their shredding hair around your heart", or words to that effect, "Truer Words, Have Never Been Spoken". "My Boy" "Celtic Squire of Clan-C" call name "Clancy", is my second Golden. My first "Spring Breeze Golden Girl Mariah" call name Mariah, blessed Me with 14 years. She was "The Love of My Life". It broke my heart when She passed away, but I wouldn't trade those 14 years for anything. My own "Personal Opinion", I don't much care for "Designer Dogs". A lot of people may disagree, and that's fine.
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Wow -- thanks for the welcome and for your input! In terms of looks and temperament, the golden can't be beat. And I do understand that maintaining a more poodle-esque coat can be challenging in many ways -- however, the house owners unfortunately don't care about grooming challenges and do care a lot about heavy shedding (and I know they will consider goldens to be heavy shedders). They have dogs themselves that do shed, but very little as they are teeny dogs. Maybe I'm looking at goldendoodles with rose-colored glasses since the only one I know very well is my cousin's sweet Penny who has the heart of a cuddly golden through and through, complete with her forever puppy quirks. But everyone's comments do help me in understanding that mixing breeds makes for unpredictability...

The breeder I'm looking at (Old Mill Doodles in Staunton, VA) does breed poodles and golden retrievers (as opposed to two goldendoodle), and claims to have health clearances. However, I don't quite know what I'm supposed to be looking for or asking for in terms of those clearances or certifications. Also, as an FYI, these doodles cost about half of what I've been finding purebred golden retrievers in my area, which I think is fair (I've seen other breeders charge over $2K for a doodle, which I think is pretty unreasonable).

I'm still not completely sold on getting a goldendoodle, but I'd like to do my due diligence before I make up my mind. If you have any other helpful tips or info, I'd really appreciate it! Or if you know of any good golden breeders in or near the DC/Northern VA area, I suppose I could think about getting on one of those long waiting lists instead...
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You'd need the dogs registered name or AKC number to check clearances on the OFA website. If you had that information I'd be happy to help check. I'd be leery of "Old Mill." According to their website, they have over 30 adult dogs and 3 different breeds they're using for their mixes. That makes my head scream "puppy mill!"

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You'd need the dogs registered name or AKC number to check clearances on the OFA website. If you had that information I'd be happy to help check.
Ahh thank you so much! I'll ask the breeder for that info.
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The breeder I'm looking at (Old Mill Doodles in Staunton, VA) does breed poodles and golden retrievers (as opposed to two goldendoodle), and claims to have health clearances. However, I don't quite know what I'm supposed to be looking for or asking for in terms of those clearances or certifications.
Here is the information for Poodles
http://www.caninehealthinfo.org/brdr...PO&variety=STD
For goldens I will attach an infographic and a screen shot for the Goldens.

If you really want a doodle, why not reach out to a doodle rescue? Your probably not going to get a puppy but you will be able to see the temperament, trainability, and what the coat will be like. Then in a few years when you have a different place then you could add a Golden puppy.

Just to let you know grooming a standard size doodle in Arizona is between 70-130 depending on groomer and condition of the coat. Something to think about when you will want to budget 500-1500 for grooming depending on the cost in your area and how often you want to have the doodle done.
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While you're in the hunt for a future pup, come join the Potomac Valley Golden Retriever Club (PVGRC)--check out pvgrc.org for events. We're entering a quiet period as the year wraps up, but there are still a number of shows in the area. The club has a diverse membership that represents the diversity in the breed with active participation in many venues: field, obedience/rally, conformation, tracking, dock diving, nose work...Getting involved, meeting owners & their pups to include several who are also breeders, you'll be able to develop an eye for what you like (and don't) for both looks & working ability (they are sporting dogs after all). It also is a perfect opportunity to network. Then, get on a list & wait. Seeing the difference between a pup bred to the standard versus these BYBs & high-volume kicking out pups for profit is eye opening. Take your time, learn & then take the plunge in getting on a list once your home situation settles.

Conformation show this weekend 3-4 Dec at Howard County Fairgrounds and there is what I hear will be a great show in Fredericksburg VA mid Jan--I plan to attend that one to show in rally & get experience for my newest pup getting used to the show environment. You also could look into Rappahannock River Retriever Club which is field/hunt training for retrievers that continues to train throughout the winter. Great group of people & the ability to see goldens w/ varying pedigrees (along w/ labs) in action.


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HI! I have a six year old golden, Lola who is a red color and just adopted a 3 year old golden/ irish setter mix named Zazu. He is gorgeous! I have several pure breed Irish setters in the past. They have a much higher energy level than goldens. They tend to be leaner and taller. Zazu is very tall and long like an irish, with a big golden head not the typical Irish head.. His color is definitely Irish setter burgandy red and his coat has all the beautiful feathering and is very shiny. He has the sweet gentle personality of a Golden, and like many goldens, he does not bark. Most of my Irish setters were huge barkers. I think this mix of what they now call Golden/Irish is a great mix!
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Wow. Thanks so much for all the suggestions, insight, etc.!
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