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GoldensGirl, I forgot to mention - not sure where you are getting your pheonobarbital from, but we had the vet write a prescription to Target. For a 30 day supply I only paid $7.00, which is a lot less than if I got it from the vet's office. Walmart would be about the same price, and if you belong to Costco they also carry it.
Thank you! With a puppy and an ailing senior, the cost of the meds and vet bills is getting up there (again) and it's good to know about these options. Our vet doesn't carry the Pheno so we have gotten the meds at a grocery store pharmacy, but it's way more than $7 a month.

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Another seizure

We celebrated too soon. Charlie just had another seizure. This one began while he was asleep on the sofa. He fell off - and down the wooden step unit - with a look of panic on his face before he went into full blown seizure. I was beside him by the time he hit the floor, stroking his head and back and hips. It was relatively short as these things go.

The usual care and clean-up drill afterwards - Hagen Daz vanilla ice cream, then kibble for Charlie, and mopping up the pee. Now he is in the anxious phase, staggering a bit as he wanders. In and out. Up and down. Panting, thirsty, pacing, needing my hands. Familiar. I think I will be up with him for at least another hour.

My poor boy is so embarrassed. I worry about his back, which was already a source of pain before this last fall. And I worry about how many times this must happen when the human members of the pack are not here.

His last test results showed the Pheno at the low end of the range, so our vet said to increase to 2 tablets morning and evening, up from 1.5 in the morning and 2 at night. We will probably begin phasing in potassium bromide soon. At least we have a plan.

It is good to know that others have been through this with beloved Goldens who lived for years with seizures.

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One thing after another

Poor Charlie. If it isn't one problem, it's another. Yesterday we put down some top soil against the foundation of the house, trying to control water seepage, and topped it with grass seed and straw on top of that. Next thing I knew, Charlie was out there feasting - on DIRT! And who knows what else. Then drinking lots of water. And now he's trying to give it all back - gagging and sometimes throwing up. It's clear that my boy doesn't feel good - and also clear that he wants to do things that make the situation worse.
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So sorry to hear Charlie had another seizure. I know the potassium bromide is a bit more expensive, and requires blood tests more often which are expensive as well, so hopefully the increased dosage of pheno will do the trick. It sounds like you still have some room to increase the dosage. Good luck!
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So sorry to hear about Charlie troubles, and hope he continues to enjoy his golden yrs! It was nice to find this site with so much support from fellow golden lovers! I have been searching the web again all day and mostly finding just medical mumbo jumbo i already know.
My 11 yo healthy active male had his 2nd seizure yesterday. No apparent reason, lasted less than 2 min, and full recovery in 15min. He had his first almost a year ago, and all testing came up negative. I was able to record it on my iphone and send it to my vet. We are waiting on blood test results now, but probably won't do other testing unless something comes back obvious and maybe not even then. We will wait and see what test say and if he has anymore but at his age it's going to be about quality of life, comfort and enjoying whatever time there is. Doesn't mean it isn't soooooooo hard on me!! He know's "mom" is worried about something since he's getting to sleep on the bed now!
Best of luck to you, and thanks everyone for the support, reading thru the threads has helped me a lot.
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So sorry to hear about Charlie troubles, and hope he continues to enjoy his golden yrs! It was nice to find this site with so much support from fellow golden lovers! I have been searching the web again all day and mostly finding just medical mumbo jumbo i already know.
My 11 yo healthy active male had his 2nd seizure yesterday. No apparent reason, lasted less than 2 min, and full recovery in 15min. He had his first almost a year ago, and all testing came up negative. I was able to record it on my iphone and send it to my vet. We are waiting on blood test results now, but probably won't do other testing unless something comes back obvious and maybe not even then. We will wait and see what test say and if he has anymore but at his age it's going to be about quality of life, comfort and enjoying whatever time there is. Doesn't mean it isn't soooooooo hard on me!! He know's "mom" is worried about something since he's getting to sleep on the bed now!
Best of luck to you, and thanks everyone for the support, reading thru the threads has helped me a lot.
I offer you a sad welcome to the world of canine seizures. The good news is that our beloved fur people can survive for years in spite of seizures. The bad news is that is that there is only so much we can do to help them.

Pheno is helping Charlie, who is now up to 2 tablets twice a day. Our vet has agreed that if he has another seizure, it will be time to consider potassium bromide, which has the advantage of being a bit less "brittle" - it stays in the system longer, so timing is not quite so critical. But cost is certainly a factor.

When we take him to the vet again, we will have his thyroid tested yet again. There is evidence that thyroid disease causes seizures and I'm not convinced yet that we should rule that out for Charlie.

Worry is a familiar companion, though I try to be accepting of the situation. We simply cannot be with our boy all the time. And he has fallen from the sofa with the start of a seizure, even with me less than 6 feet away.

I wish you best of luck with your own sweet senior.

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cleaning up dog's behind etc. after seizure

Does anyone have any ideas how to clean up easily a dog's hind parts after a seizure accident? I have a tub with a hand held sprayer. My other shower just has a regular head. Any help would be appreciated.
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Does anyone have any ideas how to clean up easily a dog's hind parts after a seizure accident? I have a tub with a hand held sprayer. My other shower just has a regular head. Any help would be appreciated.
There are some dog-bathing wipes that you can get at pet stores. Also, I understand that the solution used to clean their ears can be used for this purpose, too, applying it to a cloth diaper or wash cloth.

We have been lucky so far. Charlie has peed on himself (and rugs), but that's been the worse of it.

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Does anyone have any ideas how to clean up easily a dog's hind parts after a seizure accident? I have a tub with a hand held sprayer. My other shower just has a regular head. Any help would be appreciated.
If it was my dog I would cut away all the feathering in the rear and tail of the dog to make the process easier.

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I agree with Hank. I cut off Beau's feathering because he would urinate and sometimes lose his bowels or anal glands during a seizure. I also got a handheld kozzle for my walk in shower. That helped alot too.




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