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I wish I lived in the UK I love seeing pics of your dogs loving life Emma!!

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I wish I lived in the UK I love seeing pics of your dogs loving life Emma!!

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aw thanks Marlene.

I think most in the UK have a great deal of freedom on their daily walks. I absolutely cannot even imagine having to drive to a designated 'dogpark' where there are loads of dogs in a small patch of land, especially when you hear of such horror stories about owners just stood around while their dogs run amock.

Even when living in the middle of a large UK city I noticed dog walkers had access to the most amazing parks that they were welcome to enjoy with their dogs...infact often having more freedom than 'county dogs' as there are no worries about livestock (luckily I live around arable farmland.) Most people have walk their dogs once/twice a day as it is unusual to own large amounts of land, most have a modest back garden that dogs cannot get much exercise in.
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Gosh what different worlds we live in!Great points raised there Emma, it never even occurred to me that many dog owners in the USA dont have access to fields/beaches/country parks, my home backs onto fields, I have a country park just 5 minutes away and the moors with a reservoir&castle just 20 minutes away,I just assumed we all did the same, maybe I shouldve fielded to the UK site even so all advice is gratefully recieved.At the end of the day we all want the best for our beloved pets and its good to get opinions from many different experiences so I thank you all for that :-)
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I've been reading this thread with some interest as my new pup is a male. I haven't raised a male since the 70's when neutering males was almost unheard of.

I have a couple questions -

Someone mentioned up thread that she was tired of older dogs growling at her intact male. Are these growling dogs intact as well? Or will all males, neutered or not growl, at an intact male?

Are intact males perceived as more dominate by other dogs, female and males? Is an intact male more apt to start a fight?

I want my guy to look "male", so unless there are any behavior issues I'm leaning towards holding off neutering until he's 18 mos. Other than the obvious behavior things; digging out of the yard, aggression, humping and marking, what are the others?
There is no clear cut answer as even the "experts" can't agree. Here are a few links to articles offering differing opinions on te sibject. Look them over annd decide what makes sense to you.

http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html

http://www.akcchf.org/pdfs/whitepape...iesArticle.pdf

http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongT...uterInDogs.pdf

http://www.vet.cornell.edu/maddiesfu...uter/young.htm

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15 months in my opinion is plenty old enough. Its not worth the trouble and stress even more the risk of adding more dogs into the world.

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Dont i wish i had read up on neutering! I had Zep neutered at 6 months...vet's recommendation. He's just a peanut of a thing now and i believe that's from having him neutered so young. He's 75lbs, but not very tall (ok, i think he's "fluffy"...sure he could stand to lose a few lbs).

All in all though, i'm all for neutering/spaying. I want no part in contributing to this country's already appalling number of homeless animals.
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He's just a peanut of a thing now and i believe that's from having him neutered so young. He's 75lbs, but not very tall (ok, i think he's "fluffy"...sure he could stand to lose a few lbs).
75 pounds insn't really a 'peanut' for a golden. 66-75 pounds is the breed standard for a male. You may just be used to seeing oversized goldens.


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Dont i wish i had read up on neutering! I had Zep neutered at 6 months...vet's recommendation. He's just a peanut of a thing now and i believe that's from having him neutered so young. He's 75lbs, but not very tall (ok, i think he's "fluffy"...sure he could stand to lose a few lbs).

All in all though, i'm all for neutering/spaying. I want no part in contributing to this country's already appalling number of homeless animals.
It's unlikely that neutering contributed to your dog's being short. In fact, one of the only well-documented side-effects of neutering at six months is slight extra growth in the long bones. Neutered dogs may look slightly taller and leggier if anything.

I've never had a fat dog, so I can't attest to the role neutering might play. I've seen a few numbers that say it has no effect on the weight, and a few that say it might contribute to obesity. Since my dogs get 99% of their calories from what I put in the bowl (and the other 1% from what they find afield, presumably), I wouldn't blame neutering if they got overweight either.
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