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Finally answer.....Demodectic mites

I feel like my life is about Belle's foot....but I see light at the end of the tunnel.... If you look back thru my posts we have been dealing with a foot issue on Belle since November. So far the culture, etc has found nothing....today they did a skin scraping and found demodectic mites. The vet was surprised as Belle is 2 1/2 years old.....the vet said she may have got a cut and then with a compromised immune system the mites took over. We did board her for several days 2 times on November which she does not like so this could have caused some immune system issues.....The vet gave us Goodwinol ointment and told us to use it for 2 weeks and we should see hair regrowth in this time. If not, then we will look into the dips, but she wants to treat it topically first since it is just 1 isolated spot.

What is everyone elses experience with demodectic mites?
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I have dealt with generalized demodex mange, the kind that covered the whole body. The vet used oral ivermectin to treat it, and a one time dip. It's not contagious to people or other dogs, but it can take a long time to clear up.

I don't know anything about localized cases though, so hopefully it will clear up much faster for you.

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Hi Belle's Mom,

I just went through this with Mad with a small spot on her face. We were perscribed washing the spot with Pyroben, a medicated shampoo, twice a week for three wees. That was just before Christmas and although there is alot of hair regrowth she still has some hair growing to do before it's no longer be noticable.

My vet said he would only try a more aggressive treatment if it spread to other locations. Mad is not quite a year yet so we're hoping that her immune system is still a little immature, but he also did ask about stress.

I made the mistake of saying yes when they asked me if I wanted to look at the scraping under the microscope. Ugly things those little mites.

Hope Belle's foot is better soon.
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There's a big difference between demodex in dogs under about 18 months, and dogs over that.
In dogs over 18 months it's much more serious as it can indicate an underlying problem.
My 11 year old has demodex. The vet said if we found only one spot, he'd let it stay in the "sh*t happens" category but if we found a second one, he'd treat it aggressively.
Sure enough, 4 weeks later, we found a second spot.
Check her real carefully for any spots of thinning hair, especially on all the feet, between the toes, front legs, muzzle, and head. If you see any more suspicious spots, have them scraped. If she has any other than on the foot, at her age (and esp. if the mites are in various stages of growth; i.e., larvae, nymphs, adults) it's considered generalized and needs to be treated more aggessively (the systemic ivermectin that was mentioned).
Also, if you find more than the one patch you will want to have him run at the very least a full blood panel to be sure there's not an underlying disease. I believe hypothyroid is one of the more common contributing factors, but anything that can supress the immune system becomes suspect.
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Did the 1st spot clear up before the second spot showed up?

Belle does have IBD and is on Budesonide so I know that this Corticosteroid can cause her immune system to be a litle weaker.

The 1st spot came up in November and 2 months later we still so far we still only see that 1 spot.......so maybe this is a good sign that is it what you vet said - sh*t happens -----hopefully.

We had her annual full blood work in October and they found nothing.....does this usually include thyroid panel or do you have to ask for this specifically?
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You normally have to ask for the thyroid panel specifically, and you should request the full panel, not the screening.
But you did say in your PM that she's on a steroid for IBD, that being the case I honestly probably wouldn't look any further. That's almost guaranteed to be the problem. I would think the vet would have pointed that out.
His first spot was almost totally clear before the second one showed up. The second one we had to go looking for to find, I mean really searching, it showed up as just a patch maybe 1/2 inch in diameter, at most, of thinned hair. Not bald, not red or raw, just thinned out a bit.
His progressed to some rather nasty looking stuff, but it took about 4 months before that happened. We ended up with antibiotics because he developed a secondary skin infection, and systemic ivermectin. He's still on it (the mange was diagnosed in early July) but had a negative scraping 3 weeks ago and we're due for another one next week, hopefully we can take him off of it then.
Interesting, my dog has IBD also, but is not on steroids for it.
Because of his age (he'll be 11 this weekend) we haven't yet tabled the idea that there may be another underlying cause with him. His thyroid panel is normal. But he doesn't have a spleen, and had a flare of IBD right about when the mange showed up, so that hopefully is the cause.



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