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Kasey is wonderful with my almost 5 yr old daughter but that was not always the case. My daughter was almost 3 when Kasey came home and it was not a great time in our house for awhile. Everyone in my house had huge scratches and bite marks besides my youngest daughter only because I kept them apart most of the time. Kasey was around 5 months when it started to get better but hit the teens and it got bad again. When she hit a year old it was like we had a different dog. I thought the shedding would drive me crazy but I can say I hardly notice it anymore. I brush her everyday during the summer because we swim most days and her hair looks crazy if I don't brush her. LOL She does get stinky because we spend a lot of time outside so she gets a bath about every 3 weeks and she's fine. Kaseys first year was a bit rough but definitely worth it!
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Welcome! I'm assuming if you're organized enough to homeschool and raise that many kids you're a pretty smart cookie If you assign a child to run a sweeper as a daily chore on the main living space (shoot, if you have enough kids, have one do it in the morning and one do it before dinner and you'll never know the dog sheds too much) - my dogs are mostly on the ground floor and the tumbleweeds collect under the chairs and in the corners mostly. But with that many kids you're probably sweeping up crumbs daily anyhow. (I have 3 kids and I've never known how moms have kids WITHOUT a dog to help clean up in the kitchen )

If you were my sister/friend I would suggest that you start investigating reputable breeders in your area, take your time and go to some shows or some local events and meet people. Get some recommendations for who people are using for obedience dogs and interview breeders that way. Take your time and build a couple relationship and get on a couple lists and wait for a puppy from a nice litter. Unless your husband is very supportive, it is hard to break away from your kids in the evenings to go to multiple classes. That is my biggest challenge because my husband travels. Training time can be difficult to come by when your kids are pulling you in different directions. Chances are, you will be happier waiting longer and having your youngest baby be 2 or 3 when you bring a puppy come home because you will be able to devote more attention to the newest 'baby' and your kids will be better able to handle the 'landshark' phase.


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Hrm- I'm not up on whippets- are they really similar to greyhounds personality wise? I kept a friend's greyhound for over a month, and it was a great dog. But seriously- polar opposite of a golden. Choosing between the two is like choosing between a cat and a dog. The shedding/hair/odor would really be the least of the differences.

I was suprised at how much I really liked that greyhound. Man- she was a LAZY dog! She was happy to nap the whole day way on the couch. She was happy if I went to pet her, and if I wanted to take her for a walk she was cool with it. But she was just a big sweet couch potato.

My golden? Is totally in your face. He wants interaction! He wants to play with YOU! He wants to go outside, to go on walks, to go swim. WITH YOU! I've never had a dog that just so desperately wants to work WITH people and BE with people. And steal little peoples' stuffies so they will chase him around the house. You get the picture.

Like I say- whippets may not be so similar to greyhounds. But if they are- the two breeds just have massively different personalities. You need to figure out which type of dog is going to be a better fit for your family. They are both nice breeds but they are WAY different- and I'm not talking about hair.


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Thank you, thank you, thank you! Hope nobody got offended about the "gag" comment! Just trying to be realistic and you have all given me such great tips about bathing and brushing and what to expect! I am almost daily sweeping my home the way it is with my children. They do help out with the sweeping as well, so maybe it wouldn't be that bad. We do have a cat, and I don't really even see his hair except on our darker couch. So maybe the shedding, as long as I'm doing regular brushing, would be tolerable. Yes the whippet is a hound, and that's the major flaw with the whippet is that it wont' be as easy to train or as willing to please me as the golden is. However, it has the easier coat and seems to stay clean/odorless without much maintenance. So that's what I've been trying to decide between. Someone suggested waiting a few years and I'm not opposed to that either!

Other questions came up as I was reading:
How exactly do you bathe a golden? LOL Do I put her in a tub?
So there are "field" goldens with a lighter coat? Is this light in color AND thinner? It seems like I've seen thick, curly, dark haired golden and lighter, thinner, straight-hair goldens. I do prefer the latter. So do I just make sure the sire and dam have those traits?
So I should be looking for a golden from a breeder who focuses on obedience? Any other tips like this?
I'm from MN, so if anyone can recommend a couple hobby breeder who do the health testing, etc, please let me know!
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Regarding bathing the pup, you just stick him in the tub. I have a hand shower thingy so we wet him down, lather in the shampoo and rinse him off thoroughly. I know some people who bathe their dogs in the yard with the garden hose... But my Bear prefers warm water (he is less likely to flee. Lol!!!)


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Thank you, thank you, thank you! Hope nobody got offended about the "gag" comment! Just trying to be realistic and you have all given me such great tips about bathing and brushing and what to expect! I am almost daily sweeping my home the way it is with my children. They do help out with the sweeping as well, so maybe it wouldn't be that bad. We do have a cat, and I don't really even see his hair except on our darker couch. So maybe the shedding, as long as I'm doing regular brushing, would be tolerable. Yes the whippet is a hound, and that's the major flaw with the whippet is that it wont' be as easy to train or as willing to please me as the golden is. However, it has the easier coat and seems to stay clean/odorless without much maintenance. So that's what I've been trying to decide between. Someone suggested waiting a few years and I'm not opposed to that either!

Other questions came up as I was reading:
How exactly do you bathe a golden? LOL Do I put her in a tub?
So there are "field" goldens with a lighter coat? Is this light in color AND thinner? It seems like I've seen thick, curly, dark haired golden and lighter, thinner, straight-hair goldens. I do prefer the latter. So do I just make sure the sire and dam have those traits?
So I should be looking for a golden from a breeder who focuses on obedience? Any other tips like this?
I'm from MN, so if anyone can recommend a couple hobby breeder who do the health testing, etc, please let me know!
You probably want to go with conformation, typically they will be calmer than obedience. Field goldens are typically dark in color, very high energy, and lighter than conformation. "English" style goldens are lighter in color (although they can be dark), heavier boned, their coats are easier to care for, and usually calmer. "American" style conformation goldens are usually more in the middle of the color range, their coats are typically stunning but they may require more maintenance, and they are bigger than field goldens, but smaller than "English". Obviously this is not always true, there are always exceptions. I would recommend and "English" or American conformation style male just going off of what you have said.

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Hi rob1-

You are right the whippet is like a smaller greyhound and they are total couch potatoes! They are almost catlike in their cleanliness and they do love curling up on the couch and sleeping all day, but are ready for zipping around the yard when you go out! I love the whippet and they are gentle and quiet dogs. Good with kids as well. I'm having such a hard time deciding mostly because of the training/willingness to please issue. Whippets just aren't going to obey me like a golden. They are more like "what's in it for me" and it would be easier, I'm assuming, to train a golden. Did that greyhound you took care of seem to listen to you and obey? How about in comparison to the golden?

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Here is a good example of a field golden
Miners Kennel Retriever - Studs
Here is a good example of and "American" conformation golden KaraGold Golden Retrievers - Florida
And here is an example of an "English" conformation golden Ch Brevmac's Hallelujah for Kyon - Kyon Kennels
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I would stay away from field type goldens. They are energy squared. We got Tayla sight unseen from one of my husband's co-workers who decided a puppy didn't fit into his life and she was just 4 months old. We had recently lost a dog so we said we would take her. 8 months of hell followed until she hit a year old and it was like a light went off in her head. I wouldn't go back to that time again for the world, but I am enjoying the 8 months that has followed. Good luck with your decision, whatever it is.

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Why a male? Does there tend to be a difference? I was actually thinking female! LOL I suppose because they are a bit smaller.
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