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Ohsh - he's so cute<:

Do you train at a club where you could borrow somebody else's dumbbell to see what works?

I think you might want a dumbbell with bigger ends? Mine are 3" ends - and makes it easier for pickups. When the dogs are going in to pick up, the dumbbell is more like -

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And might try 1/2" less with bit length.

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I think that might make a difference, but it'd be worth asking around a club if you train at one if you can borrow different sized dumbbells to see.
I don't have a club to train at yet. I been working with him on my own with this so far. We had a rather bad experience at the training facility we went to last year. It made Barney more nervous. Me too, for that matter. It was like "Dog Training With Eva Braun". I want to find somewhere to train in the spring.
Anyway, I measured him with a pencil and the width of that was 2 1/2 inches. His nose hits the ground with the dumbbell I have and it's ends are 2 3/4 inches. I'm not sure if 3 inch ends would give enough clearance. I know Bertie has a substantial head. Does a 3 inch end give Bertie plenty of clearance? Also the bit on the one I have is 3 1/4 inch, so I'll have to get a much shorter one.


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I don't have a club to train at yet. I been working with him on my own with this so far. We had a rather bad experience at the training facility we went to last year. It made Barney more nervous. Me too, for that matter. It was like "Dog Training With Eva Braun". I want to find somewhere to train in the spring.
That stinks... If that's who I think it is, I'm kinda surprised, but then again, I've never taken lessons from her. What I've seen of her training at the clubs close to home (she sometimes takes the same classes I do), she doesn't seem too crazy from how she handles her dogs.

Do you know Linda G? <= I don't want to put her last name out there because I don't think she's online also I know I can't spell it! Golden person. Very nice. But I know she's active through the FDGRC. I think she still lives out in the Romulus area (I think?) - and is retired. I'd check with her to see if she has any suggestions or if she could give you tips from time to time????

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Anyway, I measured him with a pencil and the width of that was 2 1/2 inches. His nose hits the ground with the dumbbell I have and it's ends are 2 3/4 inches. I'm not sure if 3 inch ends would give enough clearance. I know Bertie has a substantial head. Does a 3 inch end give Bertie plenty of clearance? Also the bit on the one I have is 3 1/4 inch, so I'll have to get a much shorter one.

Bertie and Jovi use a dumbbell that has 3" ends and a 3" bit.

I also have a 3.5 bit dumbbell or two from when I was training Jacks (way lippier than Bertie). If Jojo's mouth gets bigger, I have those dumbbells to use.

https://www.jjdog.com/painted-regula...wood-dumbbells


If my dogs were more lippy (like Jacks was), I'd get 3.5.

3" ends were the biggest available from J&J. It works just fine for the dogs picking up.


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That stinks... If that's who I think it is, I'm kinda surprised, but then again, I've never taken lessons from her. What I've seen of her training at the clubs close to home (she sometimes takes the same classes I do), she doesn't seem too crazy from how she handles her dogs.

Do you know Linda G? <= I don't want to put her last name out there because I don't think she's online also I know I can't spell it! Golden person. Very nice. But I know she's active through the FDGRC. I think she still lives out in the Romulus area (I think?) - and is retired. I'd check with her to see if she has any suggestions or if she could give you tips from time to time????


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If it helps I have pictures...

Bertie and Jovi use a dumbbell that has 3" ends and a 3" bit.

I also have a 3.5 bit dumbbell or two from when I was training Jacks (way lippier than Bertie). If Jojo's mouth gets bigger, I have those dumbbells to use.

https://www.jjdog.com/painted-regula...wood-dumbbells

^^^ This is the dumbbell in the pics.

Because I never do things halfway (LOL) - I took pictures on measuring using a folded over toilet paper roll (which I guarantee everyone has in their homes).

Apologize if these aren't clear enough - I had to work quick because Jojo was FRENZIED when the dumbbell came out.

Toilet paper roll measures about 4". Might be tough to see, but there was about 1/2" sticking out on either side of both dogs mouths.

So if I were getting a dumbbell again, I'd want the bit to be 3" so it fits snuggly.

If my dogs were more lippy (like Jacks was), I'd get 3.5.

3" ends were the biggest available from J&J. It works just fine for the dogs picking up.

No, I didn't go to Jackie if that's who you're thinking of. She's good. I didn't go to a place that teaches for competition, just a place for regular obedience lessons for unsuspecting shmucks like myself. I've never competed in obedience, but I've always trained my dogs through or up to advanced classes. I just wanted to maybe try to work toward trying for a CD with Barney. Just kind of something to look forward to trying. I do know Linda. I haven't talked to her in 15 years, but maybe she would remember me.
Thanks for the measuring info. I don't think the regular sizes will work for Barney. He needs a bit that's narrower than 3 inches.


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No, I didn't go to Jackie if that's who you're thinking of. She's good. I didn't go to a place that teaches for competition, just a place for regular obedience lessons for unsuspecting shmucks like myself. I've never competed in obedience, but I've always trained my dogs through or up to advanced classes. I just wanted to maybe try to work toward trying for a CD with Barney. Just kind of something to look forward to trying. I do know Linda. I haven't talked to her in 15 years, but maybe she would remember me.
Thanks for the measuring info. I don't think the regular sizes will work for Barney. He needs a bit that's narrower than 3 inches.
Phew - I was thinking that didn't sound like Jackie! She or Linda would be who I'd talk to - I like how they handle their own dogs.

The other painted dumbbell option on J&J has an option for 2.5" bit x 3" ends. <= Otherwise, I think Max 200 does custom jobs.

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I agree that you should try bigger ends. I use plastic dumbbells by Training Treasures. I have found that my girl tends to chomp on wood but holds plastic without chomping. My boy would happily carry anything I think! Winx with the red and Pilot with blue. Training Treasures does custom orders.
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Yep, that's why mine was custom made. I think we had 4 inch ends. I gave it away (to one of his puppies) so I can't measure it.



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