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I just read in the newsletter put out by the service dog organization I volunteer with that one of our service dogs who had only been working for 3 years was retired early. The service dog was matched to a person in a wheelchair who relied on this dog to live an independent life.

The service dog was "on the receiving end of dog aggression nearly 10 times in less than three years." The service dog "was confronted with aggressive dogs, poorly behaved dogs, and pet dogs posing as assistance dogs." These interactions led to an increased sense of discomfort in public places for both his handler and the dog.

“After all of his life-saving and life-changing work, I knew I had to make the right decision for (him),” shares his handler. “He retired prior to his fifth birthday. I lost my best friend and my independence.” (emphasis added)

Only task-trained assistance dogs and their handlers are permitted in public places per the Americans with Disabilities Act. Please don't lie about your dog and if you see a fake service dog let the establishment's management know. It takes a community to raise a service dog and it takes a community to protect one.
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This whole thing with fake service dogs makes me so angry!

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But why was a working dog exposed to other dogs in close proximity?

It's not just people who are told to not interact with a service dog, but if you have a dog - you are not walking up to visit.

Nor should people with service dogs take them where they would be directly interacting with other dogs....

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But why was a working dog exposed to other dogs in close proximity?

It's not just people who are told to not interact with a service dog, but if you have a dog - you are not walking up to visit.

Nor should people with service dogs take them where they would be directly interacting with other dogs....
Perhaps the handler went into a store that doesn’t allow pet dogs, and someone else had a fake service dog in the store with them. I could see a whole bunch of scenarios wherein the fake service dog may have the chance to charge, bark at, or attack the real service dog, causing stress and anxiety at no fault to the handler.



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Perhaps the handler went into a store that doesnít allow pet dogs, and someone else had a fake service dog in the store with them. I could see a whole bunch of scenarios wherein the fake service dog may have the chance to charge, bark at, or attack the real service dog, causing stress and anxiety at no fault to the handler.
You just don't see multiple service dogs in the same stores though.

And speaking for myself - I take my dogs to petstores where there are multiple dogs in there sometimes - and THESE DOGS DO NOT INTERACT! I'm not approaching other people + discouraging them from approaching.

Ditto dog shows!

Sometimes it's pretty tightly crowded around the ring - but I'm not literally walking my dogs right up to other dogs if I don't want them to interact.

There's more to this story, I think.

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Perhaps the handler went into a store that doesn’t allow pet dogs, and someone else had a fake service dog in the store with them. I could see a whole bunch of scenarios wherein the fake service dog may have the chance to charge, bark at, or attack the real service dog, causing stress and anxiety at no fault to the handler.
You just don't see multiple service dogs in the same stores though.

And speaking for myself - I take my dogs to petstores where there are multiple dogs in there sometimes - and THESE DOGS DO NOT INTERACT! I'm not approaching other people + discouraging them from approaching.

Ditto dog shows!

Sometimes it's pretty tightly crowded around the ring - but I'm not literally walking my dogs right up to other dogs if I don't want them to interact.

There's more to this story, I think.
There likely is more to the story, I agree, but as someone that lives in the surrounding Denver area, I have seen multiple service dogs in stores. Were they actual service dogs or just pets passing off as service dogs? I don’t know. But I have seen it a couple times. It seems like everyone has a service dog vest for their dogs around here.

My friend’s boyfriend claims his dog is a service dog, and he takes her places all the time, but she requires an e-collar to behave, and I have seen many behaviors that eliminate her from being an actual service dog. He still claims it and takes her places with her vest.



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Kate, go to any airport and you will see tons of fake service dogs and ESAs!



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Kate, go to any airport and you will see tons of fake service dogs and ESAs!
Admittedly, I haven't flown anywhere since I was a teenager.... And can't see myself flying ever again...

But my question here is are these dogs interacting with each other?

For a dog to have TEN attacks from other dogs in 3 years, what were those specific situations?

Most fake service dogs I've seen are ON LEASH! And the biggest complaint is they might be untrained, unsocialized, threatening in appearance or behavior, and pooping or peeing anywhere and everywhere.

With the ten attacks on this service dog... were they by fake service dogs or was this the type of situations that GRF members and others experience? Inability to walk their dog around the block for fear of stray or loose dogs attacking?


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Who is to say fake or not- the law is written in such a way that the owner cannot be questioned as to much, besides, is this dog trained to perform a specific task for you...airports have way more ESAs than SDs any day- those dogs are typically not well-trained, but do they provide the support required for an ESA? Probably. True SDs will never be denied flights, entry into restaurants, etc but ESAs can be.
And this particular one, I think it's just a story told w no real evidence- I'm sorry but if your SD is attacked 10 times in 3 years YOU are doing something wrong too.

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I'm also going to be radical here and point something else out.

Whole reason why we have such a huge mess with "fake" service dogs is more and more we have an increased limitation on dog ownership. People can't get apartments or rentals with a regular dog, but they are permitted by law to live anywhere with a service dog.

This is a primary way that people are abusing the law. And I can't say I blame them because if you can't afford to buy your own home - you can be pretty stuck trying to find places to live that will take your dog or dogs plural.

Additionally, we have increased problems with nuts breaking into cars and harassing or stealing pets in the cars - even when the dogs are just fine. And people cannot leave the dogs home or it would impractical to take the dogs home and go back out, it would be nice if somebody who had both CGC (expanded tested on adult dogs) and temperament testing and current veterinary care on their dogs linked to their dog licenses were able to bring their dogs into stores with them on days or times when it's practical to do so. Make it rewarding for people to keep dogs in training for the first 3-5 years of that dog's life.

Just me thinking outside the box.

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