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I’m so sorry that you’re going through this. First, I know you feel badly about not being able to afford some aggressive treatments/tests. You can only do the best you can with what you have and no one should judge you.

I have a 7 month old pup, Bear, and found out about grain free foods from my breeder, who was giving her pregnant dog grain free until her vet told her to stop. “FDA Warns of Possible Link Between Grain-Free Dog Foods and Heart Disease. According to an FDA alert, dogs developing dilated cardiomyopathy that are not typically prone to the disease have 1 thing in common—they've been fed diets containing legumes, lentils, and potatoes as the main ingredients.“. My vet told me basically the same thing and so I feed Bear Purina Pro Plan Chicken for puppies, which has probiotics.

I think you should follow your vet’s advice on the meds for a short time. Hopefully, she won’t suffer any bad side effects. I wish you and your girl well. Please keep us updated.
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Thanks so much for your reply, I paid an extra 178 dollars for the X-ray and u/s to be seen by a radiologist specialist, who work hand in hand with the cardiologists. I could afford to see the cardiologist specialist directly so I just had my texts/X Ray u/s and background info sent to them to interpret. Basically he said that he has seen hearts this large in this breed of dog ....and because there is no fluid around the heart, lungs or abdomen he didn't see a dire concern.

The taurine test here in Alberta is 499 dollars. The cardio test is 600 dollars. But two days ago because it was an emergency situation and it would have been done ASAP, it would have been 1200 dollars. But if I book an appointment it will take a month to get in but the cost is half.
It is difficult for me to swing this money .....I am spending what I can on her which was X Ray u/s and emergency exams, each time they kept adding onto her bill....it isn't easy when money is tight ...I am doing the best I can .....this is really tough.
It's tough. In an ideal world we wouldn't have to take finances into account. But it's the reality we deal with. I totally understand. Don't be afraid to shop around either. For various things over the years, I've come across big variances for the same procedures.

I'm sorry you're going through this. We started this journey last Fall. My boy had no symptoms. We go back in 2 weeks for a follow up echo and taurine test. Fingers crossed, changing diet will have helped.


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I had a similar issue and guess what they found out at the end?? Gas in her intestines & stomach. Yes, we changed food 2 days ago. However, we also just had Stronghold applied. Maybe it was both of them. Or maybe it was only gas. However, I am happy that she is not diagnosed with DCM. Yess, I am also not fan of grain free food ( in case ). And I would also suggest feeding her more in a holistic regimen. It would cost less and definitely more healthy
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I’d get her a full echo test from a cardiologist. Without that, I think you’re shooting in the dark and hoping something will work. The test is expensive, but definitive.


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A BIG THANK YOU to "Tahnee GR"!!! I don't belong to facebook. The link to the Admins of the facebook group provided me with the information I was looking for - and it didn't require that I join facebook. Thank you so much "Tahnee GR"!!!
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Dr Karen Becker, a holistic vet, recommends giving sardines once a week as a preventative bc they are high in taurine. I too have learned that an echocardiogram is the most effective way at diagnosing DCM. The Dr Stern's FB group is a great resource and would be good to join even though you may have gotten info from the admin without joining. There is so much info out there on diet-related DCM. Good luck with your girl.

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Thanks so much Debbie ....I was reading in FB group and added sardines to her diet ....omg she loves them!! I was also reading to provide 1 egg once a week and kefir as well.....her tradition to this new food hasn't been easy....poor thing is constipated. I have added pumpkin to her diet as well ....anyway thank you kindly for all the posts
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Yes, do join the Taurine Golden DCM FB group, it has 9000+ members. best resource out there And has many many fewer members than the all-breed sister group- a better starting point.

I have to type this w.o your post in front of me, so some of this may be off the mark. (since edited to reflect hour updates)

Here are some issues I think you need to address right away:
-I don't know what to make of your new/better dx. But RC is well respected for its special diets. But if not on that, a traditional diet from one of the Big Four with none of the suspect ingredients in the top 10 e.g., Chicken & rice
-whether stopping med.s is good idea. AND How much taurine to continue to give.
-does dog need taurine test now. Not as useful as info as once was & you just changed diet. Do you know which Arcana you were feeding. Did it have added taurine then? Co.s are addinf it now, a fig leaf meanjngless.
- NOTE, can save money if you have vet draw the blood (needs special tube) and you package & overnight ship it *yourself* w. ice pack to UC Davis Lab. Read instructions in *FB help files.* Vets usally go thru intermediate step, charge more. The taurine test itself is $76
- since the dx does not seem bad now, thank goodness! google health screen clinic cavalier. that site posts all the clinics in US & Can. If there's one nearby soon & has a test you want/need, group rates much better
-be clear on exactly what's been recommended, what's been found, what tests have been done, which questions STILL need to be answered.

You need to have a game plan, be organized. No shortage of half baked opinions out there. Tune them out! When/if you first post, keep your intro info short, ask specific questions. Don't initially commiserate with others, skip the coulda shoulda, don't bother with the group tables & graphs - time for all that later. Acana is one of the worst offenders, you may already know that, but can't change the past.
Read all the relevant help files before posting. The moderators have devoted tons of hrs. to them. But if you get bogged down do ask for help.

It's a science-oriented group. Focus on the evidence. Don't rely on personal stories or anecdotes to make choices. Some join w strong opinions and don't change quickly if at all, they play DIY w. their dog's diet, hate Purina whoever, just know it's bad, corn is bad...(:-().
BTW, on ipad and some other devices, hard to find the group help files (usually ... top right main page) if trouble, go to FB thru your browser or use a real computer, not your device app. Big hug & good luck.

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