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For those that have asked about food...I do think it is a combination of genes, diet, and exercise that has contributed to Liam's longevity.

As to his diet, I used to work for Canine Companions for Independence years ago...before I had Liam. And, what I learned there was invaluable re: nutrition.

Liam joined me when I was just 23 years old and poor. However, I always got him the highest quality food I could afford at the time. Which, while I appreciate Millie'sMom offer of Purina's Bright Mind - Purina food never met my standards (i.e. poultry by product waste). I work in the field of animal protection more broadly - and the way in which we raise animals for food (factory farms/CAFOs) in this country is damaging human health, the environment, our communities, etc. And, feeding our dogs the waste/by products from the slaughterhouses does not do anything for their health (these animals are pumped full of antibiotics, and live a miserable existence).

That said, finding food that met my standards was/is always challenging. There are no laws or requirements around dog food formulas related to nutrition or for companies to label where they source their ingredients. So, I base my comfort level with food on how transparent the company is - do they tell you how they make their food, where they source their ingredients, a study of the recall history, etc.

I have also taken the approach of cycling his food to vary his sources of protein. And, who doesn't like variety! And, buying food from Canada that process their foods in their own facilities (like FirstMate) - as to bypass the processing facilities in the US that process both the low-quality food and the high-quality foods on the same machinery.

There is no magic food bullet - and I think you are doing right by your dog if you educate yourself even a tiny bit as to what exactly is in those bags and where is it sourced. And, do the best you can - it is a tricky industry to navigate.

Right now, Liam is actually eating Royal Canin Hepatic for his liver...And, I am grateful that despite me not loving all the ingredients listed...the food has brought his liver numbers back into the normal range.
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For those that have asked about food...I do think it is a combination of genes, diet, and exercise that has contributed to Liam's longevity.

As to his diet, I used to work for Canine Companions for Independence years ago...before I had Liam. And, what I learned there was invaluable re: nutrition.

Liam joined me when I was just 23 years old and poor. However, I always got him the highest quality food I could afford at the time. Which, while I appreciate Millie'sMom offer of Purina's Bright Mind - Purina food never met my standards (i.e. poultry by product waste). I work in the field of animal protection more broadly - and the way in which we raise animals for food (factory farms/CAFOs) in this country is damaging human health, the environment, our communities, etc. And, feeding our dogs the waste/by products from the slaughterhouses does not do anything for their health (these animals are pumped full of antibiotics, and live a miserable existence).

That said, finding food that met my standards was/is always challenging. There are no laws or requirements around dog food formulas related to nutrition or for companies to label where they source their ingredients. So, I base my comfort level with food on how transparent the company is - do they tell you how they make their food, where they source their ingredients, a study of the recall history, etc.

I have also taken the approach of cycling his food to vary his sources of protein. And, who doesn't like variety! And, buying food from Canada that process their foods in their own facilities (like FirstMate) - as to bypass the processing facilities in the US that process both the low-quality food and the high-quality foods on the same machinery.

There is no magic food bullet - and I think you are doing right by your dog if you educate yourself even a tiny bit as to what exactly is in those bags and where is it sourced. And, do the best you can - it is a tricky industry to navigate.

Right now, Liam is actually eating Royal Canin Hepatic for his liver...And, I am grateful that despite me not loving all the ingredients listed...the food has brought his liver numbers back into the normal range.
Thank you for stating this. I completely agree with you. I have a degree in nutrition, for people, and firmly believe in the significance our diet plays in our longevity. And the pet food industry isnt the greatest. But its hard to know now what to feed in light of the DCM scare with the boutique foods which is what I was feeding Callie and believing it was the best for her. I believed it was better quality and better sourced ingredients but then looked what happened....all the research on taurine deficiency DCM. With my previous 2 dogs, I fed them store bought food, nothing fancy, had grain, and later on fed them Flint River Ranch. And they lived long lives. I fed Callie holistic food, and we lost her at 8. However, she was always healthy, and she may have passed from surgery complications and not DCM. We will never know. What did you feed Liam before you started the Royal Canin? Regarding more holistic therapies and reiki, where do you live? Maybe I have some ideas or I can check with a friend of mine who is in the holistic animal field.

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Dear Liam, I'm going to dedicate you this song mon amour.
So, see you again at least in 3-4 years. By that time , you will learn the lyrics by heart and guide all your teenager & puppy friends here on life & love. There are still so much things they all need to learn from you big boy.
By the way, your white hair makes you look wiser, with slight cataract world seems brighter ....( believe me ;ignorance is bliss
Besides liver, tbe careful with your heart and and of course with very young goldie girls.......

PS: Sure, your parents know the English Version even it's not exactly the same . " Yesterday when I was young"


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Dear Liam, I'm going to dedicate you this song mon amour.
So, see you again at least in 3-4 years. By that time , you will learn the lyrics by heart and guide all your teenager & puppy friends here on life & love. There are still so much things they all need to learn from you big boy.
By the way, your white hair makes you look wiser, with slight cataract world seems brighter ....( believe me ;ignorance is bliss
Besides liver, tbe careful with your heart and and of course with very young goldie girls.......

PS: Sure, your parents know the English Version even it's not exactly the same . " Yesterday when I was young"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjEQVeGIRJc
This is so lovely, hope you don't mind me posting the English version too!.



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This is so lovely, hope you don't mind me posting the English version too!.

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Thanks Debbie624.
It is hard to know and keep current on the foods. But, I think we do the best we can!
I have fed Liam Fromm, Orijen, Acana, Canidae, Nulo, PureVita, First Mate, Go!, Now - off the top of my head. Oh, I did do a fresh delivery food from Evermore, too.

I actually had him in the vet yesterday and we were discussing taking him off the Royal Canin because his skin is just terrible and causing him such discomfort with itching. So, weighing the benefits vs the costs.

We are in the Boise, Idaho area. I appreciate any guidance or recs!
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