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We've taken Cyrus to daycare for the first time the past few weeks and it seems like he's just picking up things...his first week, he had kennel cough (slightly less severe than expected since he was vaccinated; only coughed for a few days). And now he has some type of bacterial conjunctivitis/pink eye.

We love sending him to daycare but it seems like he's picking up a lot of bugs just from being in close quarters. We are giving him a Zippy Paws multivitamin which has probiotics in it, as well as the Fortiflora, so hopefully that'll help his immune system...will his immune system eventually get stronger as he ages?

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Yeah, it's just like sending a kid to daycare. They pick up every bug going around. Luna's been going to daycare since she was 4 months old. She got kennel cough around 6 months. Like your boy, she had a mild case probably because she was immunized and only coughed a little bit for a few days. It took her like 4 days to feel 100% but she needed to be out of daycare for two weeks because they can be contagious for quite awhile. I also think she picked up giardia at daycare but she may have gotten it from digging in the dirt at home or eating bird poop on a walk (who knows). She also got puppy warts on her nose. That went away in about a week or two. She's almost 14 months old and hasn't picked up anything from daycare since she was about 8 months old so I think her immune system is finally starting to mature.

For us, it was still completely worth it. Luna loves daycare and it's great exercise for her. If the daycare is clean, well run, has good immunization requirements and your dog loves it and isn't immunocompromised, he'll probably just get minor common illnesses that aren't really a big deal. But there are risks. I am a little nervous about the dog flu but Luna's daycare is now requiring the vaccination for it so hopefully that keeps it at bay or reduces it's severity significantly.
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They don’t need daycare. Just find a puppy class to take him to. A dog training club would be the best place to look.


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Yeah, it's just like sending a kid to daycare. They pick up every bug going around. Luna's been going to daycare since she was 4 months old. She got kennel cough around 6 months. Like your boy, she had a mild case probably because she was immunized and only coughed a little bit for a few days. It took her like 4 days to feel 100% but she needed to be out of daycare for two weeks because they can be contagious for quite awhile. I also think she picked up giardia at daycare but she may have gotten it from digging in the dirt at home or eating bird poop on a walk (who knows). She also got puppy warts on her nose. That went away in about a week or two. She's almost 14 months old and hasn't picked up anything from daycare since she was about 8 months old so I think her immune system is finally starting to mature.

For us, it was still completely worth it. Luna loves daycare and it's great exercise for her. If the daycare is clean, well run, has good immunization requirements and your dog loves it and isn't immunocompromised, he'll probably just get minor common illnesses that aren't really a big deal. But there are risks. I am a little nervous about the dog flu but Luna's daycare is now requiring the vaccination for it so hopefully that keeps it at bay or reduces it's severity significantly.
Yes, it's really clean, very well run and has stringent immunization requirements. Good to know that this happens sometimes. Cyrus loves it so we'll probably keep going once or twice per week. Thanks!!
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They don’t need daycare. Just find a puppy class to take him to. A dog training club would be the best place to look.
Yes, he's already completed 2 puppy classes. He's been in class since we brought him home at 8 weeks. He has a trainer and is now starting agility class. We want daycare in conjunction to his training because he enjoys going. Thanks
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What about a dogwalker? You take him out for a good hour before you leave in the morning, then halfway through the day, your walker comes and takes him (probably as part of a group) to the park to play and get some exercise, go the bathroom, and come home tired, until you get home from work.

It's an option I have used since I got my first Golden as an adult. I love it, and I have had some wonderful walkers. Your dog gets good social time, but they also get the chance to just rest at home alone.

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What about a dogwalker? You take him out for a good hour before you leave in the morning, then halfway through the day, your walker comes and takes him (probably as part of a group) to the park to play and get some exercise, go the bathroom, and come home tired, until you get home from work.

It's an option I have used since I got my first Golden as an adult. I love it, and I have had some wonderful walkers. Your dog gets good social time, but they also get the chance to just rest at home alone.
Totally agree with you here -- we have a dog walker that comes 3 out of the 5 weekdays and then we do daycare the other 2 days per week. It's been working well and he loves our dog walker. But he loves playing with other dogs too and he just doesn't get that during the day when it's the dog walker coming (they don't do group play with their other dogs; she just comes in to walk him and let him out, then goes to other houses after...)
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Totally agree with you here -- we have a dog walker that comes 3 out of the 5 weekdays and then we do daycare the other 2 days per week. It's been working well and he loves our dog walker. But he loves playing with other dogs too and he just doesn't get that during the day when it's the dog walker coming (they don't do group play with their other dogs; she just comes in to walk him and let him out, then goes to other houses after...)

If you're in Philly, you probably have many many options. Dogwalking is a booming business these days in urban areas. Do some research, ask other people you know with dogs like yours, see if they have walkers they like, ask the vet techs at your vet. Interview people, see what they do with the dogs, etc. There are services in Toronto that pick up dogs and take them north to hike for the day, people who do private leash walks, people who do groups at parks, etc. I alwasy say, having a good dogwalker who you trust is gold. I love my walker - she is part of my dog's family.

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I feel like the impulse to protect our dogs from all common canine illnesses might be counterproductive at some point. Bacteria and common minor illnesses aren't exclusively bad. They help our immune systems toughen up without going completely haywire over non-consequential stimulus. For example, food allergies and allergies in general are basically unheard of in third world countries because their children are not raised in hyper clean environments. They play in the dirt, aren't surrounded by sanitized floors/dishes/hands and are routinely exposed to all kinds of bacteria and viruses. The vast majority of it isn't particularly harmful and they grow up with strong normal immune systems that don't react to peanuts in a life threatening manner. Lots of diseases are caused by or negatively impacted by immune systems being too hypersensitive to non-important stimulus. I feel like by carefully making sure our dogs are never exposed to normal canine minor illnesses we might be setting them up with immune systems that aren't prepared to function normally.
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I used to use a big daycare and my guys were sick quite a bit. I still occasionally take my one guy. Even with stringent vaccine requirements and cleaning schedules, it's still possible to pass things along. Not all owners are responsible and bring sick dogs. Sometimes dogs are carriers and don't have symptoms while they are contagious. We routinely dealt with kennel cough, giardia, coccidia, etc. at a daycare that required annual fecal checks and twice yearly Bordetella vaccinations.

I do use dogwalkers now, but also found someone who does in home daycare. She's very experienced and has excellent references. It provides a nice alternative for all 3 of mine and they have not been sick in over a year (knock on wood)...


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