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Spaying while in false pregnancy

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Kaylee was 1 year old on may 2nd, first heat started Feb 10th. I have scheduled a laparoscopic spaying in Boston for next week. Yesterday she started showing signs of a false pregnancy, nesting, carrying a toy everywhere, winning, not eating, being very close, etc. I brought her to my local vet for confirmation and there is no temperature or any signs of anything "wrong". I read online that I should wait for the symptoms to subside before spaying (see here), however, the Boston Doctor said it does not matter. But, he also said he has not had this happen often and maybe ask my breeder.

Not sure what to do. I have asked several, well qualified, breeders with no answers. I have booked a $300 non-refundable hotel and time off, so if it really does not matter, then I will proceed. However, Kaylee comes first and I obviously do not want to subject her to any unwarranted discomfort.

Anyone with experience on this subject.. or am I the first?


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Be sure and speak with your breeder and read your contract... many contracts have specific details on when to spay/neuter and it usually after the age of 2 when they are through growing. All those hormones are important :-)
As far as false pg. if the body is swelling, boobs are larger then I would suggest it's not a good time. If things are swollen inside it makes it real hard to tie off stuff and can have internal bleeding.
But I've never dealt with the laparoscopic surgery. LOL we just made a 1" incision and removed the parts :-) You drop them off in the morning without breakfast and pick them up around 4pm the same day. So if you are going to do this now, breeder has no problem, then follow the advice of the vet. Hope it all goes well for you both.
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I would think in an ideal world it would be better to wait....if she is in a pseudo pregnancy, her hormones are telling her body to prepare for whelping- her breasts are swollen and her uterus is probably also larger than it is when not "pregnant" though certainly it's not as big as it could be if there were pups in there..
that said, dogs are spayed ALL THE TIME while actually pregnant.
I'd guess she may exhibit pregnancy symptoms anyway even if she is spayed... but should not do it again since her hormones won't be dictating to her body.
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We do not spay during false pregnancy. Sorry, for the unrefundable hotel cost. But spaying during fp can cost you much more than that((
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We do not spay during false pregnancy. Sorry, for the unrefundable hotel cost. But spaying during fp can cost you much more than that((
while I agree w you- I wouldn't do it- I'm curious what cost you know of. I could find no evidence the uterus reacts more than slightly, it's not a full engorged organ that would make for big blood loss. So please share!
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I hope future searchers will find all this information useful. I wish I'd have known there was this thing call false pregnancy. Being ignorant and seeing my healthy dog run around the house winning scared the crap out of me. I immediately opened her mouth looking for foreign material, went outside looking for stool issues, called 2 vets.and reach out the all the breeders I knew. When I finally read about this condition i sigh of relief instantly went through me.

I have dealt with, and have a good relationship with, 3 breeders in my state. 1st (of Kaylee) said her dogs have never had a fp. 2nd breeder said she has only had 1 dog that had a fp and the 3rd breeder said most of her girls go through fp but they never had a scheduled spaying when in fp. Everyone is saying I should talk to someone else, Boston Dr said ask breeder and local vet, local vet said to ask Boston, all the breeders said as vet. One breeder (last one) said to ask the forums. Conclusion is.... there is no one "good" answer and just pick the answer that you feel most comfortable.

Based upon the logic of the answers here on the group I am choosing to wait until these symptoms subside. Whatever is going on in this little girls system right now needs to run its course. I will not subject her to anything else at this time.

Last question is.. how long does this symptom last? I read its about 2 weeks but would like to know from someone with first hand experience.


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while I agree w you- I wouldn't do it- I'm curious what cost you know of. I could find no evidence the uterus reacts more than slightly, it's not a full engorged organ that would make for big blood loss. So please share!
Dear,last year when we rescued the pitt ChiChi,I realized she had false pregnancy and ended up immediately at the vet. First of all, the spaying does not put an end to the false pregnancy and also extends it. By removing ovaries during spaying,makes the prolactin collapse while the body still secrets progesterone. Therefore you will witness heavier symptoms such more stress for the dog and even more swollen breasts for longer times which can result another operation to remove them. Why take such a risk. I don't remember exactly but it was a stressful 3 weeks for us and later on she was spayed. They said that even after spaying it may repeat but she did not have it again.
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