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Good morning,


Your breeder might well simply be overwhelmed with puppy care -- as mentioned the first several weeks can be hectic.


If your deposit was accepted and you received an email (btw my breeder does not make announcements for several days due to the puppies not making it for a variety of reasons but mostly because they are so fragile), I personally would call. A friendly call, most breeders share your excitement but their first priority must be the dam and puppies -- her server may be down, your email may have been lost in the shuffle etc.





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I am new to dog ownership and am very excited that our first dog will be a golden! We put down a deposit in March and our breeder notified us that our puppy had been born two weeks ago. We haven't heard anything since that initial email telling us that the puppy was born. Should I be nervous? I just want to know that the puppies and mum are healthy and we are still on track to pick up the puppy in June. I don't want to be a nuisance though. Is this normal?
Any advice would be very helpful!


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If you don't hear from her by 3 weeks, call on the phone. The general nightmare period is over by then.

I agree with everyone else, that breeders usually send out periodic updates. I'm not that good about it, but I have a 24/7 webcam they can watch...and they do! I can't tell you how often I'll get a text or an email saying, "That red collar puppy is lost and can't find his way back!" or "I can only see 7 puppies, is the other one okay?" and stuff like that. I'll send out photos and updates when something too adorable and cute to ignore happens, but I otherwise rely on the webcam until it's okay for people to start visiting.

Send an email now. If you don't hear back within 2 days, call. There's a slight possibility she has deposits from more people than she has puppies for, and is avoiding dealing with that problem. In that case, it's good to be the GENTLY squeaking wheel.
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Thankyou all for your advice, I reached out (a third time) to our breeder last night and she finally sent me an email telling me that our puppy had gotten sick and died on Saturday. I don't know why she waited until SUNDAY NIGHT to tell us. We are absolutely devastated by the news and spent the better part of the rest of our Sunday night looking for reputable breeders near us (which is anywhere from OH, PA, NC, VA and NY) and have reached out to 5 already who have pups available. Our "golden dreams" have become a nightmare. If anyone out there knows of anyone near these areas who would have golden pups available to take home in Mid June we are VERY interested. We are heartbroken and since this was my first dog, my first experience getting a dog and a hard earned and well deserved gift for our daughter we are anxious to put this disaster behind us and focus on the joy of a new pup to love.
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First, I'm very sorry to hear of this horrible news.

It's very hard to find a reputable breeder and get a puppy that is already in the ground as they tend to have wait lists. Occasionally you might find that someone pups out of getting a puppy from a litter already on the ground for unforeseen reasons like unexpected home repairs or anything really. So I would contact some breeders that you identify as reputable and let them know you'd be interested in possibly being an alternate on their wait list in case someone backs out off a litter.

For a pup by mid June from a reputable breeder, this would likely be the only option though the chance is small.

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I am so sorry your pup has died. That is probably among the worst things that can happen to a breeder -- it is devastating & heart breaking to lose a puppy.


And then you have to break the news to the expectant family -- please know the breeder needs to grieve as well and she may have been trying her (his?) very best to save the puppy and needed to process the loss before contacting you.


Again I am sorry the pup was lost -- for everyone involved.


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What awful news. I'm so sorry. You must be devastated.

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First of all I want to say how sorry I am. It's so hard to have your heart set on a puppy, and now nothing. You must begin your search again.

You may want to call me cynical....but from your first post on May 15th, you said that the pups had been born 2 weeks ago. That would make it around May 1st that they were born? Your pup passed away not long ago...so was about 3 weeks old? How did the breeder know that this was your pup?? All of the good breeders I have dealt with through the years...usually don't have the puppies picked out for each individual family till 7-8 weeks of age. The breeder often wants to keep a puppy to show for themselves, and maybe another pup or two for other show, or sport family. At 3 weeks of age....they have just started showing their personalities...it would be very hard to pick a pup at such a young age.

Could it be the breeder oversold the litter???
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Google puppy scams. How much did you send this breeder? I do not want to hear how busy the breeder is with a puppy or puppies. It takes minutes to shoot out a text or email. I’m sure they find time for eating, sleeping etc. I truly hope you get your deposit back
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I am so sorry to hear this awful news. I have no idea at what age breeders assign puppies to prospective owners, but regardless of whether your former breeder is on the "up and up," you are left in the same position. How devastating!!

Here is how my husband and I got our puppy unexpectedly early; something like this may work for you: we were reaching out to several respected breeders, among them Kyon Kennels, north of Toronto, whose puppies are usually sold long before they are born or even conceived. We were in no particular hurry, and had originally wanted a "summer" puppy (having gotten our prior dog as a pup during a very snowy winter in upstate NY, where we live).

It happened that Kyon had had a litter of eight puppies including six males in early December, and for this particular litter, there had been an overabundance of prospective owners who had wanted females. The pups were then about two weeks old, and the breeder hadn't yet done anything about trying to match up new owners for these pups--he was probably too tired! So, when I inquired about the possibility of a male puppy, he said "uh, this doesn't usually happen, but...if you are interested in taking a male puppy in early February, we could have one available for you; otherwise the wait time will be at least (can't remember, because we did take that puppy in February!).

Obviously, I happened to call at just the right time, and the situation was just a coincidence--a litter with an abundance of one sex, at a time when the prospective owners wanted the other sex--but things like this do happen, obviously.

Another way to get a (very slightly older) puppy; sometimes a breeder will keep a "show quality" (I'm not fond of that term!) puppy for themselves or a breeder friend, and for some reason, somebody changes their mind (and not because there is anything at all wrong with the puppy; in fact, chances are good that it's a beautiful pup).

So consider reaching out to a few reputable breeders; don't be tempted to lower your standards in breeders to get a puppy quickly.
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THANKYOU EVERYONE for your thoughtful responses! After we got the news that our puppy had died we were so devastated- that was one of the worst nights in my house ever. I went completely crazy on the internet and started reading reviews and contacting every breeder inside a 500 radius. I was not going to buy from a breeder unless I could get there and actually hold a puppy for real before I put down another deposit. WE found a lady about an hour and half away, she has three English Cream Pups available for pick up on June 16th (right in our timeline.) I put down ANOTHER deposit- the other "breeder" promised to send back my deposit- I am waiting. I don't believe that the other breeder was completely honest- when I first talked with her before the pups were born, she quoted me a price for the pups. Being new to the breeder world, I was stunned at some of the pricing and when I told her that she immediately dropped her price. She then was willing to let me have the pup at 7 weeks because I told her I wanted the summer to train my puppy before I went back to work in the fall ( I work at a school.) My new breeder told me that those two things were serious red flags- most breeders don't just drop their price before the pups are even born.
My new breeder has encouraged me to come visit our pup as many times as we like, we are headed out again this weekend. She understands that we are particularly sensitive about making sure we really do have a puppy. We have put down a deposit but haven't selected one of the litter as my new breeder told me that they are just starting to develop their little personalities and we should get to know them before we pick one. So while I HOPE that my first breeder(found in NJ) was sincere in her promise to return my deposit, I have a sneaky suspicion I am the victim of a scam. I wish there was some recourse, I found them on AKC marketplace, they were a registered breeder with them so I thought I was in good shape. Oh well, I can totally obsess about what happened to us OR I can focus my energies on our new pup! I choose option B.
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